ADEIMANTOS: grrr sometimes really tired

of being him. ( we still like pink but feel like

were not allowed to like pink anymore? )

( just kidding ) ( we are allowed ) ( but

how are we-being to demonstrate

our struggle against we-being?

aside from we-saying things like

“wrong direction” no “right direction” no

or saying “towering” or “exactly right”

or maybe “this direction and none other”

of course arguing about directions )

SOKRATES: and( he )wouldnt remain( tarry )upon

( to-by-for )each( of )the many suppositions

( conjectures-opinions )

( we-are )to-be( we-being )( etc ),

καὶ οὐκ (490β) ἐπιμένοι ἐπὶ τοῖς δοξαζομένοις εἶναι πολλοῖς ἑκάστοις,

ADEIMANTOS: oops i fail.

( i feel manhood beginning with oops i fail. )

( we-being-supposed-to-towering now,

always on another banana peel, and

the future-present is our peanut gallery.

if towering or hanged, id rather hang.

but o my serious friend. let us consult

my other-me to find out more. hows a man?

her-he says ) the hunger for something.

( so if we see the ) fluttering wings of a butterfly

and we feel hungry, as men do,

( we catch it in a net and pin it under glass.

wings! we can fly now. right? no. )

SOKRATES: but still( he )would go( and come ),

ἀλλ᾽ ἴοι

ADEIMANTOS: ( and indeed ) ( hes a butterfly sir.

a butterfly-he comes and goes to ) tiny blooms of something.

( when he drinks, it makes him feel ) in

a pleasurable way ( and then he wants more.

but desire for sweetness isnt quite erotic. eros

presents structure and progress. its not always )

huge and different ( but its never-enough in ways )

that can change the kind man ( we are. )

SOKRATES: and( indeed )wouldnt( become dull )lose the edge,

nor would( he )leave-off, of( his erotic )love,

καὶ οὐκ ἀμβλύνοιτο

οὐδ᾽ ἀπολήγοι τοῦ ἔρωτος,

ADEIMANTOS: ( until a certain nectar ) with an intoxicating scent

( helps us partake of we-being. which is to say, it helps us

partake more of what we are. we-nectar has crazy power.

by which we change into different kinds

of men. with different perspectives on the world )

and hugely different ( priorities or limitations or

motivations ) what are our ends? ( do we all hunger

for something different? do we all hunger

for the world? are we all towering?

our butterfly-man hungers for

what the hunger is for. )

SOKRATES: until each-and-every himself ( we )is( are ) he,

( until each-and(-every ( he ( we are ) is ) self ) ),

πρὶν αὐτοῦ ὃ ἔστιν ἑκάστου

ADEIMANTOS: ( not every man is a butterfly man.

butterfly men taste all the nectar, until

they become each and every man himself.

as each and every me becoming blind

or numb to we-being, each in our own ways,

like being towering or being hanged, or fools,

or magi, it seems, and other things, kings,

and we-being indeed can feel like pain.

but we-men also can feel a kind of we-pleasure

that ) bursts out in small portions. ( differrent men

might describe we-pleasure in different ways,

but a butterfly man likens the sensation

of we-being to ) berries and cream.

SOKRATES: of the nature( growth-origin )( of )soul( source-life )

( you will refresh yourself in the shade )( you breathe,

you blow, you make cool, cold, refresh )

to fasten( bind-attain-engage-spark-kindle )

( to-by-for that )which( comes-to )belongs-to( through-

being-related-to )( you belong )( fitting-

as-relations )( of soul )( of nature ),

τῆς φύσεως ἅψασθαι ᾧ προσήκει ψυχῆς

ADEIMANTOS: ( as a butterfly man, we ) start new hobbies

( and change our names to try on different men.

we also experiment with we-being-enhancing drugs )

and fingertips fitting into dimples ( as other-me

describes ) ( being daimonic ) ( an animal friend )

( today we think of babies ) ( which we like )

( we have nothing against babies )

( o me the baby ) ( cutie pie )

( but we dont need a baby )

SOKRATES: to bind-on( make-fast, lay-hold, partake,

to touch, pass-through, lay-claim,

attain-to, apply-itself-to, possessing )

the( such as )this —

ἐφάπτεσθαι τοῦ τοιούτου —

ADEIMANTOS: ( tragic men ),

MEDEIS: and( indeed )( he )moaning( wailing, moaning,

lamenting, with tears )( me ), o epic-winged-word-songs

( he )was speaking-through( to-by-for )me,

καί μ᾽ ὀλοφυρόμενος ἔπεα πτερόεντα προσηύδα:

ADEIMANTOS: ( animal men ),

SOKRATES: but( dyad-inborn-relation, kinship, descent )

comes-to( belongs-to )( through-being-related-to )

( but you belong )

( to dyad-inborn-relation, kinship, descent )

( to-for-by )inborn-relation —

προσήκει δὲ συγγενεῖ —

ADEIMANTOS: ( comic men ),

HERAKLES: o sprung-from-god son-of-Laertes, poly-

mechanos(of many-devices, arts, resources, crafts, means,

machines)Odysseus,

διογενὲς Λαερτιάδη, πολυμήχαν᾽ Ὀδυσσεῦ,

ADEIMANTOS: ( we belong through being related-

to these men of poetry ),

SOKRATES: ( to-by-for )which( o drawing-near )

( you associate, bring near, draw-near, approach )

( bringing-near )( she-they-will-be-bringing-near )

( of her bringing-near ),

ᾧ πλησιάσας

ADEIMANTOS: ( and as butterfly men we ) learn new skills

( to muscle-up all of our here-born relations )

( and to become all that we can with

the help of our lyrically ambitious family.

we translate three amazing men at least.

we expect they shall teach us manly things.

we already know how to say “i”, how to cut

and paste words, how to braid words, how

to have witchcraft done to us through words,

how to do a million things that you cant see,

and other things we hold back from saying,

so as not to terrify the innocent of men.

but we imagine many clever and technical

he-tricks to come ) ( he-being gradually made

available ) ( gracefully to dance as a shadow

puppet ) ( me ) ( for meta genius puppeteers )

( and someday may we be men ) perfectly,

( but for the present, we use whats available

in terms of skills ) ( and inspiration )

( of nearby men ) ( and nearby animals )

( like butterflies ) ( and of that nature ),

SOKRATES: and( indeed )( mixings )mixing-mingling( o mixings )

( to-by-for )( we- )being-( we- )beingly,

καὶ μιγεὶς τῷ ὄντι ὄντως,

ADEIMANTOS: ( we ) gather knowledge ( of all the men

who come along the way ) ( you know ) we try to write

( our feelings and experiences and tastes and aromas )

of men, as men ( but we-men struggle with we-being

at the same time as we desire ) who may not

even know ( or admit we desire being-we )

( but we find we-being in the least-worst ),

SOKRATES: o bringing-forth( bringing-forth )( you bring-forth )nous

( they are swimming, spinning, heaping and piling-up )

( we are heaping and piling-up, spinning, and swimming )

( sense-sensing-sense )( mind-minding-mind )

( wit-remembering-wit )( heart-learning-heart )

( purpose-resolving-purpose )( we-being-thought )

γεννήσας νοῦν

ADEIMANTOS: ( we ) make building blocks ( because

its part of our manhood negotiation ) ( as men )

( were looking for some treaties we can sign )

( or no ) ( were working under guise of names )

but its all fluff ( and that way it does no harm )

( the gateway key to innocence and purity )

( makes dizzy - wed like to help ya but we cant )

( and Herakles recommends we avoid the hot sun ),

SOKRATES: and( indeed )truth( unconcealed( ? ) ),

καὶ ἀλήθειαν,

ADEIMANTOS: ( and if we offer ) glimpses of a future

( its to deliberate concerning plans ) for whats next,

( and not to cause anxiety. for example

in recent days, the maskmaker )

( a maskmaker is a kind of butterfly man )

( has been thinking a lot about el nino )

( our future-present emergency )

( he sings and farms and rescues orchids )

( but how climates change after the softest — trrr )

( the softest demonstrations of towerrring )

( and overwhelming failures of men )

( but still they grow singkong and

pollinate the guavas and lemon trees,

remaining close with neighbors

and taking responsibility for

other relations )

( , , , )

( or asking things )

( what even are those dots? )

( what is distance? what is direction?

present-future we-being past-present )

( you pulling less-worse man from me )

( me pulling more lines in from you )

( el nino also not a real boy )

( all men we think about )

( as butterfly men )

( make closer )

( to belong )

//

from hymn to Apollo

Odyssey XI.613-626

Republic VI

hunger

head full of fluff