Flora
the Delphiad VIII.i ( katabasis of ) plums & ii. afternoon nap ( nap master )
i. ( katabasis of ) plums
ADEIMANTOS: this wind is never late. whether today,
whether yesterday, whether tomorrow. but when she blew,
SOKRATES: down(we)went(and came)(they came)(and went)(against-
over-through)(downwind, leeward)(in accordance with, in relation
to)(descended)(dismounted)(downstairs)(from horseback)(from
a chariot)(from inland to the sea)(into the scene
of contest)(from the tribune)(down to Hades)(we-they die,
set, cease)(so they and we)(attained
our end)yesterday,
(327α) κατέβην χθὲς
ADEIMANTOS: not this time to Hades; but where-to?
SOKRATES: to(the)Peiraius(which, for strangers,
on the open spaces,
was the famous harbor of Athens),
εἰς Πειραιᾶ
ADEIMANTOS: and you didnt go alone; how and who was guiding you?
SOKRATES: with(among-between)Glaukon(gleaming-gray-blue-
eyes-pine-cone)of Ariston(the best)(breakfast-brunch),
(we-he)(intending to be)offering(-through)prayers(and vows),
μετὰ Γλαύκωνος τοῦ Ἀρίστωνος προσευξόμενός
ADEIMANTOS: and not because they forced you to; but why?
SOKRATES: and(to-by-for)the god(he would behold with wonder),
τε τῇ θεῷ
ADEIMANTOS: something youd never seen before; but what?
SOKRATES: and(indeed)at the same time, wishing to behold(
observe, watch, gaze at)who-which-what turn(direction, way,
manner, fashion, guise, habit, custom, character,
temper, mode, manner, style)(they would)(will)make-
and-do(by making-doing-poetry)the festival
(feast-holiday),
καὶ ἅμα τὴν ἑορτὴν βουλόμενος θεάσασθαι τίνα τρόπον ποιήσουσιν
ADEIMANTOS: the festival; shes who?
SOKRATES: (she)who(just as, as if, so as, inasmuch as, seeing that
)now(presently)(her hims would be)leading(carrying-off, fetching,
bringing, guiding, drawing-out, holding, celebrating, keeping,
observing, sustaining, maintaining, holding-account,
treating, drawing-down and ripening
his)first,
ἅτε νῦν πρῶτον ἄγοντες.
ADEIMANTOS: his first pupil, his first
mate, first-second-self, just so
( the plums are getting colour )
but did he do it for the fruit,
MEDEIS: and(even indeed, o month, o moon)we saw
(they saw)Sisuphos(o pain-dyad)(o pains, of body, of mind,
of grief, of heartache, everything that causes pain)suffering
pain(he was suffering, smarting with pain, being ill, suffering
hardship, grieving, mental anguish)(in pain)having-
and-holding(bearing, carrying, bringing-
along)pain(Sisuphos),
καὶ μὴν Σίσυφον εἰσεῖδον κρατέρ᾽ ἄλγε᾽ ἔχοντα
ADEIMANTOS: or did he do it (to-by-for) itself,
MEDEIS: (o mighty-monstrous-prodigious-humongous thing)
(monstrous)(to behold)(look-upon)(to seize-hold)the stone,
lifting-up(exalting, ennobling)(the bearing, carrying)(of holding
in his hands)(considering, weighing, deliberating-on
the bearing, enduring)(the produce, yield, of earths
)(of carrying-off)(taking-away)the mighty(painful)monster
(of pain)prodigious(ly painful)humongous(pains
)(o dyad-pain),
λᾶαν βαστάζοντα πελώριον
ADEIMANTOS: or did he do it (to-by-for) we-being,
MEDEIS: (to-by-for)(partaking of)both(together, towards
both sides, both ways, from and on both sides)(one with
another),
ἀμφοτέρῃσιν.
ADEIMANTOS: (to-by-for) some kind of harmony,
MEDEIS: we were(or)(eh?)(in truth)(he was saying)(to-
by-for)you(look,
you), (even-indeed)supporting
(by pressing, leaning, applying
his weight)(to-by-for)both hands(arms)(acts)(deeds)(blows)(violent
measures)(handiwork)and(to-by-for)feet(the lower corners of
the sail, the ropes fastened therelo, the sheets)(haul it tight
or let it go)(the rudder or steering-paddle)(feet
in prosody, phrases and passages, breath-
by-breath),
595 ἦ τοι ὁ μὲν σκηριπτόμενος χερσίν τε ποσίν τε
ADEIMANTOS: so even when it seems crazy,
MEDEIS: (foolish-dyad)(silly, witless)(to behold)(look-upon)
(to seize-hold)the stone(we would accomplish, finish)
(moving upwards)(from Hades)(back)(up from the Piraeus)(silly,
witless)(dyad-foolish, he)was pushing(thrusting, throwing, rushing)
toward the crest of the hill(ridge)(back of the horses neck,
its withers, under-yoke)(spine of a helmet)(crest of a cockatiel)
(cockscomb)(silly, witless)(dyad-foolish),
λᾶαν ἄνω ὤθεσκε ποτὶ λόφον:
ADEIMANTOS: until we laugh
( when ) ( fall is falling on me )
until we cry, until we die,
until we dance,
SOKRATES: but still(otherwise, o others, o she-others,
o he-other, o she-dyad)(other she-dyad, other shes
and its)(the other its, the other she-dyad)(to-by-for
the other-she),
ἀλλ᾽,
ADEIMANTOS: but blues dont leave other blues behind,
SOKRATES: but if(they-others are)(the other is)
(we are)(see there!)(we say)(we)i(being),
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
ADEIMANTOS: for blues we need a public school,
SOKRATES: (to-by-for)such(things)as these(flowing-forsaken-
flowings)being(accomplished fulfilled)completed —
(to-by-for)education(o educations, child-rearings, trainings,
teachings, learnings, cultures of trees, twisted handiworks
of Egypt, ropes of papyrus, etc, all thats taught and learned,
arts, sciences)(rearing of a child), and(indeed, to-by-for)growth
(age, generation)(o generations)(you will be young, the prime
of life), there-and-then — (and)not alone(solitary, the only,
forsaken, unique)(you wouldnt make solitary)
(you dont make solitary),
would(you)(yes, you)turn-over(transfer, bequeath, commit,
entrust-to, rely-upon, leave)the(she)city(to these,
beings-completed by education
and by growth,
not complete as left-
alone)?
( τελειωθεῖσι τοῖς τοιούτοις παιδείᾳ τε καὶ ἡλικίᾳ ἆρα οὐ μόνοις )
ἂν τὴν πόλιν ἐπιτρέποις;
ADEIMANTOS: we would if you would, you beautiful maniac,
writing curses such as these, whose secret Pythagorean number-
being Kirkes merkin, o hello children,
MEDEIS: but still when(ever)(it)(would be about to)(likely to)
(destined)(to throw-over)(run beyond)(outstrip or pass)(overpower)
(go beyond, exceed)(delay longer)(exceed the time)
(overbid)(outbid)(go on further-and-further)(bidding more-
and-more)(pass-over)(cross-over mountains, rivers, surmounting
)(double the headland)(runnover, overflow, of rivers,
of a star, getting hot, and hotter)
(o mountain-top)(the peak)
(topmost)(the farthest-
ADEIMANTOS: — ( o how are we hyper-perfectionist-procrastinators
hyper-perfectionist-sleepers-and-dreamers
but we also are the laziest of beekeepers
always let the boss-do-work himself ) —
MEDEIA: edge)(about to)(nightfall)(will-consummate)
(the end)(higher)(extremity)(likely to, )(the highest-pitch,
is)destined, (the pride)(the greatest)(height,
extreme)(the peak —
ἀλλ᾽ ὅτε μέλλοι ἄκρον ὑπερβαλέειν,
ADEIMANTOS: when we would reach out for the sun,
MEDEIS: )then, it would turn back(in flight)(turn back to flight)
(send home again)(all the way to Hades)(twisting back
the hands)(and feet)(so as to tie them)(back-again)(back-
wards)(to-by-for the)mighty-weight(mother of Skulla)(back-
again)(backwards)(the Mighty-
one)(the mighty-weight),
τότ᾽ ἀποστρέψασκε κραταιίς:
ADEIMANTOS: and then be seized by cursed fate,
MEDEIS: back again, anew, hereafter, in turn, thereupon, there-
after, then, what follows, to the ground, earthwards, down,
to the bottom(the shameless)(ruthless)(reckless)(greedy)(lost)
(no sense of decency)(careless)(insatiate)(stupid)
(stone)was rolling round-and-round, revolving, rolling-whirling-
down, wallowing down, much-talked-of, mouth-to-mouth,
and round-and-round, the stone(you seize and hold)
(you grip)(you behold)(back at the bottom, you
)(look)(back up-upon —
αὖτις ἔπειτα πέδονδε κυλίνδετο λᾶας ἀναιδής.
ADEIMANTOS: all thats been undone ( how many times )
( but this time shes not defeated ) we-being never defeated
( we-being fiber-artists ) ( rippit ) across the sea,
SAILORS: and(indeed, he was)(Adeimantos)(a)fearless prophet.
καὶ ὁ Ἀδείμαντος,
ADEIMANTOS: O Sokrates,
ὦ Σώκρατες,
SAILORS: (he)was saying(declaring, affirming, asserting),
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: to-by-for the Politeia,
ADEIMANTOS: towards(-against-through)(even-indeed)
these(things), (we-being)(to-by-for)you, such as nobody
would(thats you-know-who)(he was permitting, allowing,
letting be)(let be, you)speak against(gainsay, contradict,
in-reply-to)(in questioning)(in dispute),
πρὸς μὲν ταῦτά σοι οὐδεὶς ἂν οἷός τ᾽ εἴη ἀντειπεῖν.
SOKRATES: seems such as he :P
ADEIMANTOS: for, but still, the(men)hearing something such as this
(will be)affected(influenced, by passion or feeling, come-to-be in
a certain state of mind, suffer)(to-by-for suffering)each time(
the she-dyad which, as)now,
(you would)(man-speaking)speak(gather-
recount),
ἀλλὰ γὰρ τοιόνδε τι πάσχουσιν οἱ ἀκούοντες ἑκάστοτε ἃ νῦν λέγεις:
SOKRATES: O least-worst-man-speaking-suffering men,
ADEIMANTOS: (they)lead the way(go before, guide, command, rule, believe, hold)
(you will set the warp in the loom, begin the web)(he was putting
to flight, giving chase)(chase, you!)(o divine)(things divine)(to-by-for
the divine-she)through inexperience(ignorances, want of skill)
(through infinities)of asking(to ask)(questioning, begging)
(to question)(they were questioning)(we were questioning)
(o questioning)(questioning)(the questioning),
ἡγοῦνται δι᾽ ἀπειρίαν τοῦ ἐρωτᾶν
SOKRATES: that sounds like me, to me, at least,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)to separate(to part, determine, distinguish,
choose, reject, decide, give answers, replies, defending)by(from-
under)the logos(word-speech-account),
καὶ ἀποκρίνεσθαι ὑπὸ τοῦ λόγου
SOKRATES: thats the gist,
ADEIMANTOS: by(beside)each question-asked, (a)little(small)bit(
being-mislead, brought from the side, brought round,
brought forward, lead-aside from the way, diverted,
being-influenced, brought-forward, being-introduced,
as witness, being-produced, delivered stealthily, slipped-in),
παρ᾽ ἕκαστον τὸ ἐρώτημα σμικρὸν παραγόμενοι,
SOKRATES: oligen orgen, as often said,
ADEIMANTOS: of the small(little)(ones being)gathered-
together(collected, mustered, strung, hoarded, collected)
at the end(completion, accomplishment, event, issue
)of the speeches(accounts-arguments-reckonings)(they
and we were fond of talking)(o being-fond-of)(being-
fond-of)(speeches-accounts)(introducing)(to introduce)great
(big, vast, high, full-grown, mighty, strong)the failure(oops,
a trip, stumble, fault, error, false-step)(we would be thrown-off
)(be thrown, you)(he was thrown off the horse),
ἁθροισθέντων τῶν σμικρῶν ἐπὶ τελευτῆς τῶν λόγων μέγα τὸ σφάλμα
SOKRATES: myself more like a stingray fish, but please continue,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)to be shown-forth(brought-to-light,
produced, made-known, made-to-blaze, displayed,
as)opposite(contrary, reverse)(to-by-for)the first
(earlier, destined)(accounts),
καὶ ἐναντίον τοῖς πρώτοις ἀναφαίνεσθαι,
SOKRATES: oopsie, maybe the logos slipped,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)even as by(from-under)(such as)
the(round-mystic-vessels)deinos(terrible, marvellously clever,
wondrously strange, powerful)(ones)(they were exaggerating
)(we were exaggerating)(to exaggerate)(the men)(will be
in dire straits)(at)playing(some game like gamblers)checkers,
καὶ ὥσπερ ὑπὸ τῶν πεττεύειν δεινῶν
SOKRATES: dont they like checkers?
ADEIMANTOS: those(men)shut(off)out(excluded-from, inter-
cepted, barred)(and)not finishing(accomplishing, fulfilling),
οἱ μὴ τελευτῶντες ἀποκλείονται
SOKRATES: those poor men. surely youve heard, its really hard,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)dont have-and-hold(bear-carry-
bring)(by having-and-holding)(by bearing-carrying-bringing
)that(they would)(bear, carry, endure, suffer, admit, offer,
present, produce, pay due, carry off, as a prize, and win)
(what was his destiny, his fate),
καὶ οὐκ ἔχουσιν ὅτι (487ξ) φέρωσιν,
SOKRATES: o lovers of carrying prizes, the men of whom you speak,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)in this way those(men)finishing(
accomplishing, fulfiling, bringing-to-pass)(are)shut(off
)out(excluded-from, intercepted, barred),
οὕτω καὶ σφεῖς τελευτῶντες ἀποκλείεσθαι
SOKRATES: from a room of their own,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)dont have-and-hold that(they would)speak(
recount, gather, pick-up)again(and in turn)by(from-
under)this(some)other(she)(gamblers)checkers
(bow wow)(that bitch),
καὶ οὐκ ἔχειν ὅτι λέγωσιν ὑπὸ πεττείας αὖ ταύτης τινὸς ἑτέρας,
SOKRATES: boo hoo cat poo,
ADEIMANTOS: not in small round stones(pebbles, counters,
gems, abacus, used for divination, voting),
οὐκ ἐν ψήφοις
SOKRATES: be Sylvia Plath, be Nina Simone,
o best of men, go ( and come and ) be unknown,
ADEIMANTOS: but still in words(speeches-arguments-accounts),
ἀλλ᾽ ἐν λόγοις:
SOKRATES: but when they lack the stones for silence,
then they try me,
ADEIMANTOS: since(o dyad-word-song)(you approach)(the dyad-
word-song)(you are)(to-by-for word-song),
the true(unconcealed)(truly-unconcealedly)at least
(does)nt-at-all have-and-hold some very(flock of wool
or lock of hair)(the true-unconcealed)(to-by-for)this(-she),
ἐπεὶ τό γε ἀληθὲς οὐδέν τι μᾶλλον ταύτῃ ἔχειν.
SOKRATES: o lack of imagination, its their favorite remedy.
maybe try to hemlock this-she,
ADEIMANTOS: but(we)speak(gather-recount)looking steadfastly
(gazing, regarding, paying attention-to, looking-upon)
(you regard steadfastly)the(we-)being-present,
λέγω δ᾽ εἰς τὸ παρὸν ἀποβλέψας.
SOKRATES: then look steadfastly at me,
( hi. we mean, hello. man, here! )
ADEIMANTOS: for now, somebody would say, someone even
(indeed)(does)nt have-and-hold(to-by-for)your(we-)word(speech-
argument-account)to oppose(set-oneself-against, withstand),
according(through)each questioning(asking),
νῦν γὰρ φαίη ἄν τίς σοι λόγῳ μὲν οὐκ ἔχειν καθ᾽ ἕκαστον τὸ ἐρωτώμενον ἐναντιοῦσθαι,
SOKRATES: we say to somebody ( o insufferable he ) we have-and-hold
(to-by-for)nobody ( he seems to be mc ),
ADEIMANTOS: but(to-by-for the)deed(work, act)to see,
ἔργῳ δὲ ὁρᾶν,
SOKRATES: the deed-work-act was done(to-by-for)little-old-me.
and why cant they just be happy for a feast?
ADEIMANTOS: as many(men)as(are)starting-out(setting-
in-motion, spurring-on, cheering-on, beginning, rushing-headlong)
at philosophy(wisdom-love), (are)not fastening(himselves to it,
not binding himselves, cleaving himselves, to it)(not laying-hold-
of it, seizing it, clasping it, for himself to be clasped, seized, laid-
hold-of, catching-fire by it), (and not)on account of(for the sake
of)(it, being)educated(brought-up, reared, trained, taught,
nurtured, corrected, disciplined,
as a child),
ὅσοι ἂν ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ὁρμήσαντες μὴ τοῦ πεπαιδεῦσθαι ἕνεκα ἁψάμενοι
SOKRATES: so have we been held (to-by-for) man-childs?
ADEIMANTOS: (we)being young(he would swim, he would spin,
he would pile up in heaps, he)would(wish to)be set free(delivered-
from, released, escaped, acquitted, removed, departed-from),
νέοι ὄντες (487δ) ἀπαλλάττωνται,
SOKRATES: my prison cell,
ADEIMANTOS: but still(they would)spend time(in it)longer,
ἀλλὰ μακρότερον ἐνδιατρίψωσιν,
SOKRATES: conversation,
ADEIMANTOS: even(indeed)and most becoming wholly otherly(
unusual, strange, portentous, utterly different, queer),
τοὺς μὲν πλείστους καὶ πάνυ ἀλλοκότους γιγνομένους,
SOKRATES: elephants-in-elephants, teachings of trees,
to-by-for the beach dog — rawrr — so cuddly,
ADEIMANTOS: so that(we)wouldnt say thoroughly depraved,
ἵνα μὴ παμπονήρους εἴπωμεν,
SOKRATES: we would say well-born,
ADEIMANTOS: but the(ones)seeming(to be)(furnishing
with rafters)(the)most fitting(meet-suitable)likewise(
are)suffering this, at least, by(from-under)the pursuit(
business-custom)which you praise(approve, commend),
τοὺς δ᾽ ἐπιεικεστάτους δοκοῦντας ὅμως τοῦτό γε
ὑπὸ τοῦ ἐπιτηδεύματος οὗ σὺ ἐπαινεῖς πάσχοντας,
SOKRATES: slander, coercion, abuse,
a regular Kerberos, eh Herakles?
ADEIMANTOS: becoming useless(unprofitable, unserviceable)(to-
by-for)the cities,
ἀχρήστους ταῖς πόλεσι γιγνομένους.
SOKRATES: nevertheless becoming nobodies,
MEDEIS: )nevertheless, he at least, back again, in return, thrusted(
pushed)(forced-back)(stretching)(bending)(exerting)straining,
αὐτὰρ ὅ γ᾽ ἂψ ὤσασκε τιταινόμενος,
ADEIMANTOS: we-being ( completely ) me again,
SOKRATES: and(indeed we)i(being)hearing(you hear)
(of involuntarily-silent ones,
from one involuntarily-silent),
καὶ ἐγὼ ἀκούσας,
ADEIMANTOS: but we-being reborn your man,
SOKRATES: (do)you really suppose(forebode, presage, expect,
suspect)(he was alone)(he is alone)
(you are alone)
(be alone,
you),
οἴει οὖν,
ADEIMANTOS: maybe not, but how would we, we-being-seeing, know?
SOKRATES: (o saying)(we say)(they say)(say, you)(saying)(the word-song),
εἶπον,
ADEIMANTOS: but even a chatbot could copy that,
SOKRATES: (do you really suppose)the(men)saying these(things
to be)false(speaking-playing false, beguiled, cheated, mistaken)?
τοὺς ταῦτα λέγοντας ψεύδεσθαι;
ADEIMANTOS: no, but —
MEDEIS: but(against)through(you sweat)(youre drenched
with sweat, the)sweat(y sweaty sweat)(exuding sweat
from trees)(gum, resin)was gushing(flowing, running, streaming,
full-flow)(a leaking ship)(flux)(pouring)(to go slowly)
(to limp)(to go or come to harm)(to ruin)(perish,
disappear, lost)(clean gone),
κατὰ δ᾽ ἱδρὼς 600 ἔρρεεν
ADEIMANTOS: ( sighs into the sweat )
MEDEIS: out(of cups)of limbs(idle, useless, unhappy, miserable)
(in vain)(limbs, body-members)(from musical-members,
phrases, songs, strains)(from a nightingales)
(hims)(however many hymns),
ἐκ μελέων,
ADEIMANTOS: its a lot of hims ( but taking baby
steps ) what about these sailors?
SAILORS: (we)dont know, (we)(o swelling-puffiness-tumors)
(havent seen)(the swelling-puffiness-tumors),
οὐκ οἶδα,
ADEIMANTOS: but(we are)(or)(eh!)(truly)(beingly)he was saying(he was he),
ἦ δ᾽ ὅς,
SOKRATES: we-being not a tumor ( but maybe a Cancer ),
ADEIMANTOS: but still the opinion(thinking, imagining,
supposition, expectation, purpose, pretending, presaging,
seeming, self-seeming)(to-by-for)you,
ἀλλὰ τὸ σοὶ δοκοῦν
SOKRATES: he looks like three girls in sparkly-pink bathing-suits,
concealed inside a trenchcoat, the shape of a manly sailor,
with at least three fish tails poking out, and a false mustache,
but you wont find this golden tan on instagram,
ADEIMANTOS: (o expecting)(we were expecting)
(they were expecting)(the expecting),
δοκοῦν
SOKRATES: the sum and substance of western civ,
ADEIMANTOS: (o furnishing)(they were furnishing with rafters)
(we were furnishing with rafters)(to furnish with rafters)
(rafter-furnishing),
δοκοῦν
SOKRATES: make-find good stranger an un-dying friend,
ADEIMANTOS: (fancy)with pleasure,
ἡδέως
SOKRATES: a vegan brownie to share with you,
ADEIMANTOS: but still(how it)(in general)seems to you,
with pleasure(we)would hear,
ἀλλὰ τὸ σοὶ δοκοῦν ἡδέως ἂν ἀκούοιμι.
SOKRATES: it seems —
MEDEIS: but(o dust)(o sand)ashes(o pearl-ash, lye, soap-powder)
(quicklime)(plaster, stucco)(dusty)(it was plastering with stucco,
daubing over)(painting, disguising)(plaster over, you)
from the strength(might-power-master-victory)(the ten)
(of the she-head)had stirred-up(urged-on, called-forth, excited),
κονίη δ᾽ ἐκ κρατὸς ὀρώρει.
ADEIMANTOS: ( mouth full of ashes )
SOKRATES: you would hear, that(to-by-for)me, at least,
they(dyad-unconcealed)appear to speak(gather, recount)the(dyad-)truth
(he wanders, he roams, outcast, banished,
perplexed)(dyad-unconcealed),
ἀκούοις ἂν ὅτι ἔμοιγε φαίνονται τἀληθῆ λέγειν. (487ε)
ADEIMANTOS: ( vomits )
MEDEIS: but after(in the middle of)(o vomiting)(o vomited)(behind)him,
we perceived the body-strength(force, act of violence)
(they were constraining, forcing, pressing hard)(to force)
(we were driving, forcing-on)of Herakles(loadstone),
ADEIMANTOS: towards a plan ( but
was it his own ) ( and how? )
MEDEIS: the image(phantom, unsubstantial form, reflected-
off the mind, idea, likeness, constellation, the idol)(of Herakles),
τὸν δὲ μετ᾽ εἰσενόησα βίην Ἡρακληείην,
εἴδωλον:
ADEIMANTOS: ( maybe in ways ) not spoken out loud.
SAILORS: how(in what way, by any means, in any way, at all)(really)therefore,
πῶς οὖν,
ADEIMANTOS: (how)(was he saying)(what?)(he)was saying,
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: not spoken out loud?
ADEIMANTOS: (how, therefore, )does it have-and-hold-well
(viper-dyad)(to-by-for the viper)(youre-next-to, clinging-to,
following-closely, coming-next, being-had-and-held)
(sticky)(he was pouring)(to recount, to gather)to say,
εὖ ἔχει λέγειν
SOKRATES: (yelling) not spoken out loud!!!
ADEIMANTOS: (how does it have-and-hold-well to say)
that the(wicked)she-cities will not stop mistreating(spoiling,
afflicting, injuring, ruining, the)earlier(first),
(they were mistreating)(we were mistreating)(the earlier-
former)(you-shes were ranging-over)(ploughing-haunting)
(as the manly-many)(were ruining)
(the she-cities)
ὅτι οὐ πρότερον κακῶν παύσονται αἱ πόλεις,
SOKRATES: by him having-and-holding
them(the she-cities)as you-yourself
are had-and-held ( thats how ),
ADEIMANTOS: until in herselves(to-by-for herselves)
the(philosophers)wisdom-lovers
(he would love wisdom)(would begin, make a beginning of,
strike the first blow, govern, be leader of, command,
would)rule,
πρὶν ἂν ἐν αὐταῖς οἱ φιλόσοφοι ἄρξωσιν,
SOKRATES: so demonstrate(by you)(by my)(by it)
self-rule, she ruling them,
ADEIMANTOS: (those)whom useless(unprofitable, unserviceable)
(we were)agreeing(to-by-for)her(city)selves(we(to-be)are)?
οὓς ἀχρήστους ὁμολογοῦμεν αὐταῖς εἶναι;
SOKRATES: by the ship, and indeed,
let your-himself be used by we.
//
afternoon nap
ADEIMANTOS: so we-being agreed.
MEDEIS: but himself after(among)immortals
(he would make immortal)(they make immortal)
(to-by-for makings-immortal)(they run)(by running,
they shine, by shining, by gazing,
immortal)gods,
αὐτὸς δὲ μετ᾽ ἀθανάτοισι θεοῖσι
ADEIMANTOS: as in a dream, he-being-he,
MEDEIS: (he)enjoys(delights himself)in festivals,
abundance(feasts)(you will enjoy yourself
and make merry)and(indeed)(o viper-dyad)has-
and-holds(you have-and-hold-to)(he bears, carries,
brings)(you are brought)(he was pouring)(the viper-
dyad)(to-by-for the viper)beautiful-ankled Hebe(
of youth)(hes young again)(and they were fastened)
(we were bound)(engaged)(undertaken)(prosecuted
vigorously)(handled, touched, grasped, attained,
reached, come-up-to, overtaken, by affect)(they were)
(we are attaining, in the prime of life, fresh, vigorous)
(strength and vigor)(the body)(vine)(divine)(of youth),
τέρπεται ἐν θαλίῃς καὶ ἔχει καλλίσφυρον Ἥβην,
ADEIMANTOS: ( yawns and stretches ) the warmth
of my sweet afternoon nap
( me-being-he ),
MEDEIS: (the)(child, slave, servant)of great(mighty, big,
strong)Zeus(divine)and(indeed)of Hera(nine)gold-sandalled,
παῖδα Διὸς μεγάλοιο καὶ Ἥρης χρυσοπεδίλου.
ADEIMANTOS: ( his amazing aphrodisiac ) lingers
on my skin ( well it would ),
SOKRATES: you(would)(questioning, asking, begging)ask,
ἐρωτᾷς,
ADEIMANTOS: we would just lay our head in your lap,
SOKRATES: (but)(if)(they are, he is, we are, we say)(see,
there!)but(we)i(being),
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
ADEIMANTOS: then yes please, tell me more about myself,
SOKRATES: (you would ask)a question(lacking, missing, binding-
tying, needing-of)(that which is asked), (of a decision-
separating)reply(answer, excretion, secretion, exhalation,
defence, response, embassy, commission, a kind of dance
)speaking(gathering-recounting)through
(a)likeness(image-semblance-similitude),
ἐρώτημα δεόμενον (ἀποκρίσεως δι᾽ εἰκόνος λεγομένης).
ADEIMANTOS: okay then, would we entrust the city to such as these —
MEDEIS: but around him(the)cry(he was baying)(howl, you)
(reverberating twang)(scream)(grunting)(hissing)(screeching)
of the dead(corpses)(spirits)(if)(they are)(he is)(we are)
(we say)(see, there!)were as birds of prey(omens),
605 ἀμφὶ δέ μιν κλαγγὴ νεκύων ἦν οἰωνῶν ὥς,
ADEIMANTOS: of me-being,
MEDEIS: wholly-fear-bewildered.
πάντοσ᾽ ἀτυζομένων:
ADEIMANTOS: ( its terrifying here ) we dive under blankets
to feel that warmth ( that heat ),
SAILORS: but you at least,
σὺ δέ γε,
SOKRATES: as cool as cool could be,
SAILORS: (he)was saying(asserting),
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: as we-harmonic grow, (to-by-for)me, the trees,
ADEIMANTOS: (o song-ways)(we)dont suppose(expect,
presage, forebode)(they would swoop)(they pounce-
upon)(you, at least)(would be swooped-upon)(to-by-for the way
of song)(you, at least)have-been-accustomed to speak
(recount-gather)through images(likenesses-
semblances-similitudes),
οἶμαι οὐκ εἴωθας δι᾽ εἰκόνων λέγειν.
SOKRATES: having-been-accustomed, self-concealing, (by-for-to)we,
MEDEIS: but he, seeming(seemly)like murky(dark-black)night,
ὁ δ᾽ ἐρεμνῇ νυκτὶ ἐοικώς,
ADEIMANTOS: ( not spoken ) plasters myself on me ( like dust ),
MEDEIS: having-holding(his)naked(exposed)(rain)bow
and(indeed)having-holding(bearing-carrying-bringing)
(they were throwing and heaping)(we were throwing
and heaping-up)(an)arrow on the strings,
γυμνὸν τόξον ἔχων καὶ ἐπὶ νευρῆφιν ὀιστόν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and ashes ) to maximize
the area where skin touches skin ( out loud ),
MEDEIS: (was)peering-about(looking-about
with sharp, searching glances)(wistfully)(seeming-
like)deinos(round-mystical-vessels)(terribly-
awful-horror-marvellously-strong-
wondrous-and-clever),
δεινὸν παπταίνων,
ADEIMANTOS: ( tied to the mast ) and we
dont want to get up ( master that nap ),
MEDEIS: seeming always like(as fitting, seemly, meet)
he will(would)be(like they will strike)throwing(
casting, hurling, striking, shooting, falling, letting
fall)(like they will fall, they will let fall),
αἰεὶ βαλέοντι ἐοικώς.
ADEIMANTOS: but they dont let fall ( until
theyre ripe ) and then
maybe they will —
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic I, VI
Odyssey 11.613-626
the Delphiad, book III
(NAUSIKAA and HOMER on the beach, at sunrise.)
NAUSIKAA: you call me cute in a way we cannot fight,
HOMER: had not Achilles himself risen-up(indeed)and said
the(muthos)story-word;
καί νύ κε δὴ προτέρω ἔτ᾽ ἔρις γένετ᾽ ἀμφοτέροισιν,
εἰ μὴ Ἀχιλλεὺς αὐτὸς ἀνίστατο καὶ φάτο μῦθον:
N: so we call surrender;
(Rise, Achilles.)
ACHILLES: now no longer exchange-in-turn, (you-two)
(them-two), o Ajax and o Idomeneos, mean(cowardly)
(cruel)(shameful)(abusive)(harmful)word-
song(evil)uglies,
(neither)when(following the dyad-word-
song), nor has it(been)seemly,
μηκέτι νῦν χαλεποῖσιν ἀμείβεσθον ἐπέεσσιν
Αἶαν Ἰδομενεῦ τε κακοῖς,
ἐπεὶ οὐδὲ ἔοικε.
N: ever;
ACHILLES: but(indeed)by the other(they-dyad,
you-dyad)would be resentful(angry-wroth),
at whoever would do this kind of thing.
καὶ δ᾽ ἄλλῳ νεμεσᾶτον ὅτις τοιαῦτά γε ῥέζοι.
N: surrounded by cool August breeze,
he still knows anger;
ACHILLES: but still, you(all)seated in the agon(contest-
gathering-struggle-battle), look upon the horses;
ἀλλ᾽ ὑμεῖς ἐν ἀγῶνι καθήμενοι εἰσοράασθε
ἵππους:
N: safe in a warm nest of pillows and sheets,
we look upon the horses;
ACHILLES: but they(by whom)quickly(perhaps)themselves hurrying
(hastening, eagerly-with-speed, blowing-blustering, propelling,
assailing-attacking)around victory, hither(thither)will(go)come;
οἳ δὲ τάχ᾽ αὐτοὶ ἐπειγόμενοι περὶ νίκης
ἐνθάδ᾽ ἐλεύσονται:
N: we wait;
(enter, Autos.)
ACHILLES: but then you will recognize each
of the Argives horses, by whom(they are)second
and by whom(being)presently-in-front.
τότε δὲ γνώσεσθε ἕκαστος
ἵππους Ἀργείων, οἳ δεύτεροι οἵ τε πάροιθεν.
N: our eyes are yours.
AUTOS: but you stood on the(forgotten-hidden-spoils-plundering-
pirates)Lelantine plain; it(this-she)didnt(o satiety, o loathing,
o weariness)delight(delight, you)(in)your thumos(hrrr),
to(make)build a temple-dwelling and sacred-wooded(with tree-
like markings)groves.
στῆς δ᾽ ἐπὶ Ληλάντῳ πεδίῳ: τό τοι οὐχ ἅδε θυμῷ
τεύξασθαι νηόν τε καὶ ἄλσεα δενδρήεντα.
H: as he said; but Tudeides(pursuing)went(and came)very(pit-
under-handed-dyad)close-by(seeking-chasing-pressing-
driving-urging-prosecuting)and drawing-near;
ὣς φάτο, Τυδεΐδης δὲ μάλα σχεδὸν ἦλθε διώκων,
N: he lives far from where prosecutors are,
A: but thence(whence)striding across the Euripos, o Apollo throws-
from-afar, you stepped up to the sacred mountains,
greenish-yellow(bilious-looking)(fresh-blooming);
ἔνθεν δ᾽ Εὔριπον διαβάς, ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον,
βῆς ἄν᾽ ὄρος ζάθεον, χλωρόν:
N: and prefers flowers;
H: but by whip-scourge-lash he was always driving(drive,
you)arm-strokes-through from the shoulder;
μάστι δ᾽ αἰὲν ἔλαυνε κατωμαδόν:
N: our lord has shoulders, we dont whip;
A: but swiftly(perhaps, you)came from him(self)
to(she)Mukalessos(mooing-bellowing-nose-turning-mousy)
and(indeed)going(coming)to(he)Teumessos(happening-accomplishing-
vessel of a canny-fortune-device-workshop)(which cares)with-
grass-fit-to-make-a-bed.
τάχα δ᾽ ἷξες ἀπ᾽ αὐτοῦ
ἐς Μυκαλησσὸν ἰὼν καὶ Τευμησσὸν λεχεποίην.
N: swiftly by chariot, come for a ride,
H: but(the dyad)horses(o horses)by him(by him)
were lifting-lofty(raising-up)swiftly(quickly-nimbly)
passing-through(accomplishing)
(their)course.
οἳ δέ οἱ ἵπποι
ὑψόσ᾽ ἀειρέσθην ῥίμφα πρήσσοντε κέλευθον.
N: the loftier-the-lift, the less we try;
A: but you were arriving in the seat of Thebes(treasure-chest-store-
house-container, put-in-place to step-n-go)having-swooped-
down(covered and clothed)by hule(forest-wood-
land, firewood-fuel, brushwood-twigs,
stuff-material-matter, sediment-
mud, ooze, phlegm-
catarrh);
Θήβης δ᾽ εἰσαφίκανες ἕδος καταειμένον ὕλῃ:
N: digging in the earth of our own heart;
H: but the plume of dust was always hurling(throwing,
flying, striking)the charioteer,
αἰεὶ δ᾽ ἡνίοχον κονίης ῥαθάμιγγες ἔβαλλον,
N: so we cant always see just where we are;
A: for not yet(was)anyone(of)mortal-man dwelling in sacred Thebes,
nor then-and-there, yet-then-at-least, were there(k)not-twisting-paths,
nor drive-command-paths, throughout(the)grain-
bearing plain(of)Thebes,
οὐ γάρ πώ τις ἔναιε βροτῶν ἱερῇ ἐνὶ Θήβῃ,
οὐδ᾽ ἄρα πω τότε γ᾽ ἦσαν ἀταρπιτοὶ οὐδὲ κέλευθοι
Θήβης ἂμ πεδίον πυρηφόρον,
N: so we relied on our horses;
they too enjoy grain.
H: but the chariot having-been(dyad)covered(closely-surrounded,
shielded)by gold and tin, by swift-footed horses was
(as we were approaching)running-close-after;
N: we had to trust we would be safe;
ἅρματα δὲ χρυσῷ πεπυκασμένα κασσιτέρῳ τε
ἵπποις ὠκυπόδεσσιν ἐπέτρεχον:
A: but still, the hule(forest-woodland-cut-wood-
down-firewood-fuel-brushwood-twigs-
stuff-matter–material-sediment-
mud-slime-phlegm-catarrh)
was having(and)held —
aouuuuuuuu!
ἀλλ᾽ ἔχεν ὕλη.
N: we were the howling;
H: nor were many tracks coming-through-after from the iron-rim
around the wheel, in the fine(thin-delicate-subtle-small-
impotent-slight-slender)cloud of dust
(he would cover)(youre covered
with clouds of dust);
οὐδέ τι πολλὴ
γίγνετ᾽ ἐπισσώτρων ἁρματροχιὴ κατόπισθεν
ἐν λεπτῇ κονίῃ:
N: were twinkling(flickering);
A: but(o earlier-dyad)whence(thence)(it came)
(it went)dyad-earlier-was going,
o Apollo throws-from-afar,
ἔνθεν δὲ προτέρω ἔκιες, ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον,
N: there was a beacon,
guiding us through the night;
H: but(both)seeking-eagerly(urging-pressing-on, hastening,
exerting, anxious, harassed)they were flying.
τὼ δὲ σπεύδοντε πετέσθην.
N: they were just being girls;
A: but to Onchestos(swollen-pompous-bellowing-pear-
tree-place, projecting-hook-pour, set-standing-
straight)you went, to Poseidons sacred grove;
N: we have some warm memories;
A: where(a)newly-tamed(filly)foal recovers(draws breath)
(you-drawing-breath)being-roundly-over-loaded
(vexed-grieved-annoyed)dragging
(the)beautiful chariot;
Ὀγχηστὸν δ᾽ ἷξες, Ποσιδήιον ἀγλαὸν ἄλσος:
ἔνθα νεοδμὴς πῶλος ἀναπνέει ἀχθόμενός περ
( ἕλκων ἅρματα καλά ):
N: we have some hard ones too;
H: but(he)made a stand(set-placed)(stayed-checked)(established-
instituted-fixed)(weighed-)into the mid(dle-intermediate, imp-
partial, middling, moderate, mediocre, mean)into the agon
(gathering-assembly-contest-struggle-place),
στῆ δὲ μέσῳ ἐν ἀγῶνι,
πολὺς δ᾽ ἀνεκήκιεν ἱδρὼς
ἵππων ἔκ τε λόφων καὶ ἀπὸ στέρνοιο χαμᾶζε.
N: o(he)repudiates established-institution;
A: but onto the ground(the)roundly-good driver
from(the)seat-board(o springing)leaps —
goes(comes-to)(the)road;
χαμαὶ δ᾽ ἐλατὴρ ἀγαθός περ
( ἐκ δίφροιο θορὼν ) ὁδὸν ἔρχεται:
N: hes made of earth but swift of feet;
H: but much sweat was spouting(and gushing forth)
out of(the)horses necks and(indeed)
from(his)chest onto the ground.
N: our names are rivers;
A: but it(by this)meanwhile indeed
empty(-handed-fruitless-void-)carriage(shelter)rattles
(knocking-strikes-claps)(by rattling-applause)along
(is)letting-go(leaving-neglecting)(what-belongs-
to)a lord.
οἳ δὲ τέως μὲν
κείν᾽ ὄχεα κροτέουσι ἀνακτορίην ἀφιέντες.
N: we dance(an)empty-handed-fruitless-void,
H: but seeing(him), swift(to ward-off, defend, assist, avail, hold-
out)footed-god-like Achilles was feeling pity(for him),
τὸν δὲ ἰδὼν ᾤκτειρε ποδάρκης δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς,
N: but we bring and carry some-great-soul;
A: but if the dyad-chariot break(shiver)s in the sacred-wooded(with
tree-like markings)gro(o)ve, (they)attend(caring for)(letting their hair
grow long)to the horses,
εἰ δέ κεν ἅρματ᾽ ἀγῇσιν ἐν ἄλσεϊ δενδρήεντι,
ἵππους μὲν κομέουσι,
N: and we drag-along a pretty-great-friend;
H: but making a stand, then and there, into the Argives, winged-
word-songs(he)was speaking(speak, you)-agora-(into
the assembly, the marketplace);
στὰς δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἐν Ἀργείοις ἔπεα πτερόεντ᾽ ἀγόρευε:
N: there is a voice, it tells me no,
guiding me through the night;
A: but leaning(sloping-lying-down)(on something)
(they)allow(by letting-go)the(chariot);
τὰ δὲ κλίναντες ἐῶσιν:
N: there are dreams,
there are pillars,
there is a beacon;
ACHILLES: the last(left-behind)man(and)the best(bravest,
most excellent, finest)drives(youre driven)(set in motion)
(struck)(beat-out)(forged)with one
(un-cloven)hoof;
‘λοῖσθος ἀνὴρ ὤριστος ἐλαύνει μώνυχας ἵππους:
N: may your words remain a constant echo
A: for so(the)earliest(hallowed-pious-pure-divine-natural)law
(begetter-ancestor-author-)(himself)became;
ὣς γὰρ τὰ πρώτισθ᾽ ὁσίη γένεθ᾽:
N: get a good nights rest,
in my mind even half asleep;
H: but(him)self(autos)from the all-shining seat-board
leapt(leap, you)onto the ground
(all-shining),
αὐτὸς δ᾽ ἐκ δίφροιο χαμαὶ θόρε παμφανόωντος,
N: we are made of earth, swift-footed;
A: but(to)(for)by the lord
(they)(boast-exult-
triumphant)pray,
οἳ δὲ ἄνακτι
εὔχονται,
N: o we ever arent him;
H: but(he)leaned there-and-then the whip-scourge-lash
against the yoke; nor did(he)idly(waste time doing it),
sturdy(strong)Sthenelos(strength-might-force-vigor);
κλῖνε δ᾽ ἄρα μάστιγα ποτὶ ζυγόν: οὐδὲ μάτησεν
ἴφθιμος Σθένελος,
N: neither does he whip, nor does he run your race;
A: but then destiny(fate)guards(you-on-your-
own-guard)the seat-board of the god.
δίφρον δὲ θεοῦ τότε μοῖρα φυλάσσει.
N: all(being)guarded(we)by(the)guardian(of)guardians(being)all;
H: but still-self-speedily(he)took hold of(grasped-
seized)the(contest)prize;
ἀλλ᾽ ἐσσυμένως λάβ᾽ ἄεθλον,
N: well he had come in first place;
A: but whence(thence)dyad-previously(you)were going,
o Apollo throws-from-afar;
ἔνθεν δὲ προτέρω ἔκιες, ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον:
N: previously burning in Achilles funeral pyre;
H: but(he)gave for(his)high-spirited(thumos)companions
the woman to lead,
N: our name is Nausikaa; we are the first
to whom he(stranger)owes his life.
H: and(indeed)to carry(the dyad-)tripod
with(o ears!)(oars?)handles;
δῶκε δ᾽ ἄγειν ἑτάροισιν ὑπερθύμοισι γυναῖκα
καὶ τρίποδ᾽ ὠτώεντα φέρειν:
N: a giants never been in safer hands;
A: but then and thereupon, you reach the beautifully(flow!)ing
Kephissos(dull-sluggish-torpid-droning-buzzing-garden-
guardian-growing-natural-rest),
Κηφισσὸν δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἔπειτα κιχήσαο καλλιρέεθρον,
N: where we step with bare feet,
when were not taking a seaside nap;
H: but he was(unbinding, unfastening, letting-loose
and releasing)(the dyad-spider-webs)
(and)setting free the horses;
ὃ δ᾽ ἔλυεν ὑφ᾽ ἵππους.
N: which is how they learned to fly;
A: and who-he(would pour)pours from(gracious-desiring-
clarity, musical-guardian-yearning, libations-of-oblivion)
Lilaietha, of the beautifully-flowing water;
ὅς τε Λιλαίηθεν προχέει καλλίρροον ὕδωρ:
N: nobody(he)at all.
(All set.)
from hymn to Apollo
Il.23.488-508, 532-538
cf Od. 8.462
heirloom of nine parts over twelve days (5/6 and 8/9)
but(him)self, o bearer of the silver-bow, lord who throws-from-afar(hekatebolos)Apollo,
at one time(and indeed)across rugged Kynthos you go(you take your way)
(pass)(set out)(run)(get onto, out of, into something)(you go on-board
or disembark)(a ship)(to bestride and protect a fallen friend)(or
to drag the body off)(of an enemy)(you mount a chariot
and stand beside another),
but at another(time, you go)wandering aimlessly around
to shun and flee-from islands and men.
αὐτὸς δ᾽, ἀργυρότοξε, ἄναξ ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον,
ἄλλοτε μέν τ᾽ ἐπὶ Κύνθου ἐβήσαο παιπαλόεντος,
ἄλλοτε δ᾽ ἂν νήσους τε καὶ ἀνέρας ἠλάσκαζες.
many(o many)to(for)(by)you(are)the temple-dwellings and the woody(with tree-
like markings)groves;
but all(o all)(whole)(get, you)(acquire, you)(possess, you)the lookout-places(hill-
tops)(peaks)and(watch-towers)and(the friends, o friend, by the friend)he
would love the highest(topmost)(outmost)(inmost)headlands(cliffs
and bluffs)of lofty mountains(and lofty asses, well, and lofty mules),
and the(nine)rivers flowing-through(o flowing)into the sea;
πολλοί τοι νηοί τε καὶ ἄλσεα δενδρήεντα:
πᾶσαι δὲ σκοπιαί τε φίλαι καὶ πρώονες ἄκροι
ὑψηλῶν ὀρέων ποταμοί θ᾽ ἅλαδε προρέοντες:
but you(to)(for)by Delos, o Phoibos(bright, radiant, pure), you most delight
and gladden, cheer, make content the(etor)heart(life-passion),
ἀλλὰ σὺ Δήλῳ, Φοῖβε, μάλιστ᾽ ἐπιτέρπεαι ἦτορ,
(as Odysseus, even in the midst of his tall-tale, admits of ships
driven by oars, and wars, and throwing spears and arrows, o dyad-
mournful(sorry)(good-for-nothing)(wretched)(painful)things,
which by others at least become horrible, nevertheless,
those things(to)(for)by him, is(the)beloved, which somehow the god
had put there, in his phrenes(heart-breast-perception-memory-
desire-anger-inward-thought); for different men(he men-
splains, as he lies)take joy in different works.
ἀλλά μοι αἰεὶ νῆες ἐπήρετμοι φίλαι ἦσαν
καὶ πόλεμοι καὶ ἄκοντες ἐΰξεστοι καὶ ὀϊστοί,
λυγρά, τά τ᾽ ἄλλοισίν γε καταριγηλὰ πέλονται.
αὐτὰρ ἐμοὶ τὰ φίλ᾽ ἔσκε τά που θεὸς ἐν φρεσὶ θῆκεν:
ἄλλος γάρ τ᾽ ἄλλοισιν ἀνὴρ ἐπιτέρπεται ἔργοις.
Odyssey 14.224)
there(to)(for)by you the Ionians with their trailing tunics gather together
their(him)selves with children and with worthy
and venerable bed-partners and wives.
ἔνθα τοι ἑλκεχίτωνες Ἰάονες ἠγερέθονται
αὐτοῖς σὺν παίδεσσι καὶ αἰδοίῃς ἀλόχοισιν.
(as black Ajax and red Ajax would never take their stand apart, on
the battlefield at Troy, not even a little; but as, into the fallow land,
wine-dyad-dark-oxen(fixed-together-plough in equal-thumos-spirit-
power-drive)both-bearing(carrying)(bringing)they stretch(stretch,
you!)and bend(bend it!)and draw-it-out(you, do that too!)
the fixed-together-plough;
but, there and then, on both sides, from their under-end-most-horns
much sweat gushes(so you two, spout)forth;
and they-two(indeed)the polished-yoke-alone-apart-it-works(it bars
the way)(youre worked)(youre barred)dyad-releasing(letting go,
hurling, throwing, sending, letting flow and spouting forth)through-
and-against the furrow;
but(it)overtakes(reaches)(finds)(will-be-accomplishing)(arise,
you!)the limit of the earths arable land;
so they-two, beside-both-standing, beside-both-passing-beyond,
beside-both-transgressing, exceedingly they make their stand,
(to)(for)(by)(belonging)an-other-to-the-one.
Αἴας δ᾽ οὐκέτι πάμπαν Ὀϊλῆος ταχὺς υἱὸς
ἵστατ᾽ ἀπ᾽ Αἴαντος Τελαμωνίου οὐδ᾽ ἠβαιόν,
ἀλλ᾽ ὥς τ᾽ ἐν νειῷ βόε οἴνοπε πηκτὸν ἄροτρον
ἶσον θυμὸν ἔχοντε τιταίνετον: ἀμφὶ δ᾽ ἄρά σφι
πρυμνοῖσιν κεράεσσι πολὺς ἀνακηκίει ἱδρώς:
τὼ μέν τε ζυγὸν οἶον ἐΰξοον ἀμφὶς ἐέργει
ἱεμένω κατὰ ὦλκα: τέμει δέ τε τέλσον ἀρούρης:
ὣς τὼ παρβεβαῶτε μάλ᾽ ἕστασαν ἀλλήλοιιν.
Iliad 13.701)
but those by boxing(you) and dancing(you) and singing(you),
(they)remembering you(they delight, gladden, and satisfy)with joy,
delight, gladness, and cheer, that they would make their stand(-up-
right, stand-up, rise-up, begin, stand-still, anew)their struggle,
battle, action, assembly, contest, argument, issue — their AGON.
οἱ δέ σε πυγμαχίῃ τε καὶ ὀρχηθμῷ καὶ ἀοιδῇ
μνησάμενοι τέρπουσιν, ὅτ᾽ ἄν στήσωνται ἀγῶνα.
and he(indeed)would say, to be undying and ageless always,
which thereby would come-and-go to meet,
that Ionians altogether-as-a-body
(o all-together, all-at-once)
would very-well-be;
φαίη κ᾽ ἀθανάτους καὶ ἀγήρως ἔμμεναι αἰεί,
ὃς τόθ᾽ ὑπαντιάσει᾽, ὅτ᾽ Ἰάονες ἀθρόοι εἶεν:
for of all would he see grace, favor, beauty, glory, kindness, good-
will, gratitude, gratification, delight, satisfaction; but he would
take pleasure in, enjoy, rejoice, have full enjoyment in, the thumos
and men — (he)(o he)looking into(upon)beholding — and women
with beautiful girdles(and leashes)and swift ships(with ship-like temple-
dwellings)and of swift-selves, their possessions(property, heirlooms,
“the fur coat grandma wore”, you add, and we say sure, and wealth,
estates, farms, fields, vineyards, materials)both-many-and-both.
πάντων γάρ κεν ἴδοιτο χάριν, τέρψαιτο δὲ θυμὸν
ἄνδρας τ᾽ εἰσορόων καλλιζώνους τε γυναῖκας
νῆάς τ᾽ ὠκείας ἠδ᾽ αὐτῶν κτήματα πολλά.
(just as the beautiful girdles, maybe fur coats too, in the fake-wedding, when
Odysseus has newly-burst-forth from his disguise and slaughtered the suitors,
and the old maid wakes-up Penelope, from a very good sleep, to tell her; and it
must be the happiest of all moments in the whole history of human poetry, after
one of terrifying brutality; but Pen doesnt go to him right away; she holds back
her trust, telling their son that they have signs known only by themselves, to prove
they are(to)(for)(by)each other; and Odysseus pretends to hold a wedding,
to distract the Ithakans from the fact he has just butchered their best youth;
or, as he voices-meta-through:
“but we have killed the prop(support)(stay of the city)(the sunken rock,
reef)(bank)(barrow)(that which keeps a ship steady, ballast,
and also earrings, maybe Heras mulberry ones
from yesterday — ),
those great-most-excellent-ones among(young men)the shoots-
and-consequences of satiety, surfeit, and insolence)in Ithaka;
but those, we have ordered you
to consider(purpose, plan, contrive)(perceive,
observe — watch — guard — beware)."
ἡμεῖς δ᾽ ἕρμα πόληος ἀπέκταμεν, οἳ μέγ᾽ ἄριστοι
κούρων εἰν Ἰθάκῃ: τὰ δέ σε φράζεσθαι ἄνωγα.
but Eurynome cleans all the gore from Odysseus so that hes suffused again
with beauty, as when a craftsman gold-overlays-on-silver; so we again can see
his locks of hair-hung-down like purple hyacinth; so-looking-immortal goes he
to meet Penelope; he calls her strange, she calls him strange; then she tests him,
by telling the maid to bring his bed; and Odysseus proves himself, by saying, you
cant do that, as we made our own bed, so we know it very well; especially by one
particular feature, which only he could accomplish; which was, he built it from
a living tree, roots in the ground; Pen melts into tears and asks him forgive-
ness; Pen-splaining, the jealous gods gave them misery based on how happy
they would have been together, throughout their youth; but there are many men
who would have tried to deceive her, and thats why she has to test him; Pen-
splaining-further, that neither would Helen have gone with Paris, and become
the center of the Trojan war, had she not been so deceived; from which we may
conclude, that she tests him, as taking such precautions now, against
ever being the woman
at the center
of a war;
and then he appears, to her, as welcome as the land to men who are drowning,
and she couldnt let him go from her white-armed, like Heras, earths, embrace;
and Athena holds back time, so that they have enough of it, for tears, for hugs,
for conversation, and Od tells Pen about his sign; until the old-maid Eurynome
dresses their bed for them(probably we should check her out);
but they, as one might put it, “gladly went
together to bed, and their old ritual."
but his voices-meta-through,
“and they(by himself)(by herself)(indeed)thereupon-gladly-welcomed(o gladly-
welcomed ones)of the ancient(couch)bed(lektron)(yous make ancient)(make
it ancient, yous, that which is laid down)(the site, the place)(the rite, the law,
the order)(rule, precept, right)(tribunal,
they)come to walk-about(approach)(reach)(take their way)(visit)(present-
their-self-to)(to come or fall into their hands, approach
as one(we)suppliant, having-reached-home, after
swimming, spinning, and piling-in-
heaps,
their deepmost law
(our zebra-dove)
of peace."
οἱ μὲν ἔπειτα
ἀσπάσιοι λέκτροιο παλαιοῦ θεσμὸν ἵκοντο:
Od. 23.147-296)
but toward this great wonder, of which the rumour(report, fame, glory)never
will it perish(come to an end)(die)(be lost)(undone)(in a state of)(ruin),
those girls(maidens)(nymphs)(daughters)(puppets)(dolls)(pupils of
the eye)(in the hieron)(o girls), who as women we call the Deliades,
of the far-shooting-one, are the handmaids(o handmaids)(dwellings);
cf Phaedrus
πρὸς δὲ τόδε μέγα θαῦμα, ὅου κλέος οὔποτ᾽ ὀλεῖται,
κοῦραι Δηλιάδες, ἑκατηβελέταο θεράπναι:
and those(shes)since(you are already following the dyad-word-song)there
and then, the first(o first)indeed(on the one hand)Apollo(they)would sing
(celebrate, commemorate, make famous, tell over and over again, recite,
repeat, harp upon(him),
)but(on the other hand)back again, anew, in turn,
hereafter, again further(bow wow)(aouuu)
Leto and(indeed)Artemis, pourer-forth-of-arrows,
αἵ τ᾽ ἐπεὶ ἂρ πρῶτον μὲν Ἀπόλλων᾽ ὑμνήσωσιν,
αὖτις δ᾽ αὖ Λητώ τε καὶ Ἄρτεμιν ἰοχέαιραν,
(o shes)remembering(him)and of men(o rearing-up)(rearing)(the rearing-
up into manhood)and of old age(o ageing)(ageing)(the ageing)and
of women(they)sing the hymn,
but(they)work upon by spells and enchantment(bewitch)(charm)(spell-bind)(work
upon by wiles)(cajole)(beguile, deceive, cheat)(charm, delight, ravish)
(by hims-and-theys-enchanting)
the tribes(races, classes, swarms, nations)(of tribes races, classes,
swarms, nations)(by tribes, races, classes, swarms,
nations)of human beings.
μνησάμεναι ἀνδρῶν τε παλαιῶν ἠδὲ γυναικῶν
ὕμνον ἀείδουσιν, θέλγουσι δὲ φῦλ᾽ ἀνθρώπων.
from hymn 3 to Apollo
fog of nine parts over twelve days (7/9 and 3/4)
there(o)you, eie!(coming and going)(hearing and seeing)Phoibos(pure, bright
radiant one),
the goddesses(seeings)(you run)(you shine)(you gaze)(she would gaze)(you
would be put in place)(by looking at)(by contemplation)(by
the sight)(o seeings)
were bathing(you)with beautiful(wood)(reefing rope)freshwater purely
and cleanly, were wrapping in white(light)(bright)(clear)swaddling
cloth(fine, thin, delicate)(weak)(slight)(subtle)(refined)
and fresh-woven;
but around(you)they(released)(let go)(let loose)(made flow)(uttered
and spoke)(threw)(hurled)(shot)(spouted forth)(sent)
the golden-twisting-cord.
ἔνθα σέ, ἤιε Φοῖβε, θεαὶ λόον ὕδατι καλῷ
ἁγνῶς καὶ καθαρῶς, σπάρξαν δ᾽ ἐν φάρεϊ λευκῷ,
λεπτῷ, νηγατέῳ: περὶ δὲ χρύσεον στρόφον ἧκαν.
not even, there and then, did the mother(o source)(o origin)suckle Apollo
of the golden weapon,
but Themis(whats right to do)(ruled over)(supplied)(offered)poured the first
drops of nectar and lovely ambrosia
with(her)immortal hands;
but Leto(behold)(seize)rejoiced, because she was giving birth
to a bow-bearing and steadfast child.
οὐδ᾽ ἄρ᾽ Ἀπόλλωνα χρυσάορα θήσατο μήτηρ,
ἀλλὰ Θέμις νέκταρ τε καὶ ἀμβροσίην ἐρατεινὴν
ἀθανάτῃσιν χερσὶν ἐπήρξατο: χαῖρε δὲ Λητώ,
οὕνεκα τοξοφόρον καὶ καρτερὸν υἱὸν ἔτικτεν.
nevertheless(since)(you are)already(following)(the dyad-word-song)(it
was binding)(it was needful)(both)(need and bind, yous),
o Phoibos(pure, bright, radiant one),
(you)ate up(devoured)the ambrosial(we missed the mark)(they
missed the mark)(hamartia)food,
you wouldnt be(panting)(gasping)(struggling convulsively)at least(she
approaches)(has)(had been sat)thereupon(had sent)(has sent)(you all
would send)(she had been put-on)(she has been put-on)(i
was restraining)(by the word-songs)the golden-twisting-
cords(were restraining)(restraining)not
you(panting)(gasping)(struggling
convulsively)at least,
αὐτὰρ ἐπεὶ δή, Φοῖβε, κατέβρως ἄμβροτον εἶδαρ,
οὔ σέ γ᾽ ἔπειτ᾽ ἴσχον χρύσεοι στρόφοι ἀσπαίροντα,
nor still do the bonds hold(you)back,
(you hold you back, you),
but they(the bonds)were releasing all of the ends(tools)(tackle)(ropes)(cords)(limits)
(boundaries)(completions)(the comings-to-pass)(crises or supreme moments)
(decisions)(determinations)(modes)(means)(verdicts)(dooms)
(instruments)(the final or essential points)
(the sum and the substance);
(as Nestor delivered to his son, on driving the horse-drawn chariot around
the not-rotted-tree-post(grave-marker)(racing goal of ancient men)with two
white stones leaning on either side, the joining-place of ways, stating
there was no great need to instruct him, for he had been loved
and taught by Poseidon and Zeus;
but he said, your work will be heavy, because your horse may be
the slowest; so keep your eye always on the post, and hug(tree-
post)(grave-marker)it and yourself,
lean
a little to the left, urging-on the right horse, giving full-free-rein; and keep
the left horse hard-against and nearly-touching the tree, until the hub
of the strongly-built wheel will seem to touch it, but not enough
to really brush against it, which would break
the chariot, the horses, yourself.
Iliad 23.305-350)
οὐδ᾽ ἔτι δέσματ᾽ ἔρυκε, λύοντο δὲ πείρατα πάντα.
but at once by femmortals(feminine + immortals)Phoibos(pure, bright,
radiant)Apollo was voicing-meta:
(meta - concerning community or participation; action in common
with another; in the midst of; succession; pursuit; letting go; after,
behind; reversely; repeated action or a change in position
or condition; movement)
αὐτίκα δ᾽ ἀθανάτῃσι μετηύδα Φοῖβος Ἀπόλλων: ‘
“dyad-bows(it lets)(let it)would be(to)for(by)me a kithara(o beloved)(dear-girl-
friend)(she loves)(love, you)and a curved-(rain)bows-dyad,
(we would)(we will)proclaim(furnish you with)an oracle(that you consult)(you are
needing and wanting)(you use)(make use of)(take part in)(dealings with)(experience,
suffer, be-yoked-to)(to feel)(to treat)(to)(for)with(by)human beings(of Zeus)
the un-erring and in-fallible(will)(determination)
(design and)council of Zeus."
εἴη μοι κίθαρίς τε φίλη καὶ καμπύλα τόξα,
χρήσω δ᾽ ἀνθρώποισι Διὸς νημερτέα βουλήν.’
(he said, “many, at least some, good-lucks we seem to be consulting, using, treating-
with, o Meno, of strength and fierceness, of spirit and passion, intent
and purpose, standing-fast, will be standing-fast;
if you go, you come and go, you are seeking-for; as they boil and seethe, boil
and seethe, yous! as they live, live, yous!
(let)one excellence, to thrive and prosper, they were thriving and prospering, we
were thriving and prospering, the dyad takes up, raises, lifts up, the beehive,
o beehive, any we have found and discovered, of excellences, thriving
and prospering, (then)we were thriving and prospering;
beside you, being and having-been, strewn, laid down to rest, repose, re-
maining, buried and un-buried, being situated in place, in store, in re-
serve, set-up and laid-down,
enduring."
πολλῇ γέ τινι εὐτυχίᾳ ἔοικα κεχρῆσθαι, ὦ Μένων,
εἰ μίαν ζητῶν ἀρετὴν σμῆνός τι ἀνηύρηκα ἀρετῶν
παρὰ σοὶ κείμενον. cf Meno 72a)
as saying(o saying)he was striding across(chthonos)earth of the wide-ways
Phoibos(pure, bright radiant)of unshorn hair(hekatebolos)darting-from-afar;
but there and then all of the femmortals(get)(acquire, you)(they were astounded
and started meta-voicing too, “we believe you when you say” we are,
we are amazing amazement
labyrinthine);
but by gold(by golden)there and then all(o all)Delos had been heavy and weighed
down(oppressed)(grievous and distressed)(by golden gold);
looking down at the offspring(family)(generation)of Zeus and Leto,
by joyful-gladness-together,
that the god had chosen(taken)(preferred)(seized)(appropriated)(carried-
off)(chosen)(selected)(it)her
(as the)(o)dyad(palace)house,
to put(set)(place)(set it aside)(set it down)(to give a name to a child)
(to apply the mind)(to set down, propose, as a prize)(as the material
of contest)(to put on or about a person, endue him with)(to set out,
a meal)(put it before someone)(to put into a persons heart or mind)
(to suggest, communicate)(to lay, impose, inflict, bring evil)(to bestow,
give, grant)(to bring about, make, cause to come into being or take
place)(to cause to be such)
among islands(will be spinning)(will be swimming)(“for a while”)(a year
or two, or ten)(o spinning and swimming one)(and piling-up
in heaps)and continents(she
was multiplying to infinity,
she was making into mainland —
make it, you — her mind, its history, things she cant
yet think outloud, things still
hidden in dreams,
by who?
“only slightly unsettling,” you say,
she says, o fucking hell)
but she loves(his lock of hair)more-heartedly.
ὣς εἰπὼν ἐβίβασκεν ἐπὶ χθονὸς εὐρυοδείης
Φοῖβος ἀκερσεκόμης, ἑκατηβόλος: αἳ δ᾽ ἄρα πᾶσαι
135 θάμβεον ἀθάναται: χρυσῷ δ᾽ ἄρα Δῆλος ἅπασα
( βεβρίθει, καθορῶσα Διὸς Λητοὺς τε γενέθλην,
γηθοσύνῃ, ὅτι μιν θεὸς εἵλετο οἰκία θέσθαι
νήσων ἠπείρου τε, φίλησε δὲ κηρόθι μᾶλλον. )
we bloom, brilliant and shining, we flourish, at the height; they bloom
and flourish, at the height; youve bloomed, have blooming!
have flourishing — “a good day” — have being in(our)full!
and as when the highest peak, of the great mountain, of the ass,
and of the guardian(were tri-partite)by brilliance of blossoms
and flowers eruption as by birds(or a yellow wagtail)of woodland,
trees, forest, of timber, firewood, were burning, of stuff, material,
substance — o mud! — of matter, you are the barking,
baying, howling
of earths
unfathomed
potential
ἤνθησ᾽, ὡς ὅτε τε ῥίον οὔρεος ἄνθεσιν ὕλης.
from hymn 3 to Apollo
mogis pos
fog of nine parts over twelve days (2/3 and 7 or 8/12 = 2/3)
but they(goddesses, wobbly)send Iris(rainbow)forward well-built from the island(this
island)to(will)(lead)(carry)fetch(bring)(to-will-break and shiver
the waves)(to find yalls secret notes)(seized be?)
Eileithuia(mogis-postokos),
(they)(holding under)(as of hands to receive)(or a cup)(or lending ears)(supplying,
affording, furnishing)(upholding, supporting)(sustaining)(maintaining)(taking
upon themselves)(undertaking)(professing)a great chain(necklace)
(wreath)(anchorage)
(shelter),
by golden(gold mines)threads of flax having(asking)(speaking)(fastening
together), nine cubits broad;
as broad as Priams yoke, which he prepares to go beg for his son Hektors
body from Achilles; and his wife, Hekabe, she carries kind, sweet wine,
advises him to pray and look
for signs of birds;
and he agrees
to ask the god for mercy.
αἳ δ᾽ Ἶριν προὔπεμψαν ἐυκτιμένης ἀπὸ νήσου,
ἀξέμεν Εἰλείθυιαν, ὑποσχόμεναι μέγαν ὅρμον,
χρυσείοισι λίνοισιν ἐερμένον, ἐννεάπηχυν:
but absent(aloof)(apart)(they were commanding)(we are commanding)(to beauty-
summon)(call)Hera of the white arms,
truly(they are flowing)(flow, you)(they are swimming)(swim, you)(they are spin-
ning)(spin, you)(they are heaping- and piling-up the thread)(you all
would be)thereupon(she approaches)(has)(had been sat upon)(had sent)
(has sent)(you all would send)(she had been put-on)(she has
been put-on)by the word-songs, she will-to-be-read
like a book, she would twist-and-turn-
back(going of goings)(coming
of comings)(being
of beings).
νόσφιν δ᾽ ἤνωγον καλέειν λευκωλένου Ἥρης,
νή μιν ἔπειτ᾽ ἐπέεσσιν ἀποστρέψειεν ἰοῦσαν.
nevertheless(since)(you are)(approaching)(the dyad-word-song)Iris, swift-footed-
as-the-wind, hears this at least,
(baaa)(sheep-sound)(!!)she walks, then(i will snarl)(easy, rhubarbed)(i
will sprinkle)she runs(to shine)
(to gaze),
but quickly(swiftly)(fleet)she(o Pan)(o all)accomplish all(o all)(o Pan)
the(rainbows)middle. (did she? she tries, a problem is, if she
starts reading Homer, she doesnt stop, its the best wine
however she needs to go to imigrasi
tomorrow morning
baaa)
αὐτὰρ ἐπεὶ τό γ᾽ ἄκουσε ποδήνεμος ὠκέα Ἶρις,
βῆ ῥα θέειν, ταχέως δὲ διήνυσε πᾶν τὸ μεσηγύ.
nevertheless(since)(you are)(approaching)(the dyad-word-song), then she
(running)(shining)(gleaming)reaches the seat of gods(and goddesses)
(of seeing ones)(of looking-at)(of aspects)(they were gazing)
(we were gazing)(o gazing one)(upon)
high and steep(sheer)(utter)Olympos,
αὐτὰρ ἐπεί ῥ᾽ ἵκανε θεῶν ἕδος, αἰπὺν Ὄλυμπον,
at once, then(they were sowing seeds)(o bow-drill)(o shrine)(o carpenters auger)
(by bane and ruin)(anxiety, impatience)(indentations from teeth)(on the inside
of my cheek, she will snarl)(she will snarl, I’m still the same old me)(you
will be snarled)(but you would pray)(and see)(now)(you pray)
(she raises up)(we raise up)(be raised-up, you)
(o prayers)(by prayer)(to flowers)(o lords-
and-ladies)(o jacks-in-the-pulpit)
(o ylang-ylang),
out the door of the great hall, beauty-summoning-out-forth-Eileithuia(she
that comes in need)(we were)winged-word-songs(lines and verses)(o
winged-poetries)she is voicing-through,
o all, very(o yellow)(distemper of asses)(white-tailed)(apple)(arm-
pits)like we were enjoining(cheering on!)the Olympic houses,
(o all)the having-and-holding(feminine).
αὐτίκ᾽ ἄρ᾽ Εἰλείθυιαν ἀπὲκ μεγάροιο θύραζε
ἐκπροκαλεσσαμένη ἔπεα πτερόεντα προσηύδα,
πάντα μάλ᾽, ὡς ἐπέτελλον Ὀλύμπια δώματ᾽ ἔχουσαι.
but by it, then and there, she is persuading the thumos(heart-spirit-courage)in
their beloved breasts;
but(going)they go on foot, their steps resembling timorous(trembling)(shy)
rock-pigeons. (why would goddesses
go like that?)
τῇ δ᾽ ἄρα θυμὸν ἔπειθεν ἐνὶ στήθεσσι φίλοισι:
βὰν δὲ ποσὶ τρήρωσι πελειάσιν ἴθμαθ᾽ ὁμοῖαι.
when Eileithuia mogos-postokos(of toils and travails of birth)sets foot upon Delos(o
dyad-divine)(it was binding)(bind, you)(need, you)(it was needful)then
and there, childbirth seizes hold of her.
and there and then, she is scared and shaking; she is spinning
and swimming, imagining again and again
all the whats it means;
but she(in thought-purpose-spirit-courage-power-force-violence)desires
to give(be given)birth.
εὖτ᾽ ἐπὶ Δήλου ἔβαινε μογοστόκος Εἰλείθυια,
δὴ τότε τὴν τόκος εἷλε, μενοίνησεν δὲ τεκέσθαι.
but still she doesnt understand, struggles to comprehend, spinning
and swimming, mind inside-out and upside-down, losing
stability;
but around the palm tree(phoenix)(purple or crimson)(she)throws(throw, you)
(cast)(hurl, let fall, strike, touch)(her and your)two arms(double-
horns of the lyre)(o dyad-bow-joining)(o dyad
of the lyre)(o double-rainbow).
with-and-without the news(it helps)shes tempesting
or going numb;
but the knees she plants(will plant)firmly on the soft(tender)
(gentle)(mild)meadow(yielding)grassy place
(of flowers)(blooming)
(yoni);
she keeps collapsing into tears;
but the earth(o earth)(by earth)smiles beneath her.
ἀμφὶ δὲ φοίνικι βάλε πήχεε, γοῦνα δ᾽ ἔρεισε
λειμῶνι μαλακῷ: μείδησε δὲ γαῖ᾽ ὑπένερθεν:
and still, she isnt you-know-who;
but out(which)leaps(springs)(rushes)(darts)(attacks)(do it)into the light of day;
ἐκ δ᾽ ἔθορε πρὸ φόωσδε:
and she feels dizzy, nauseous, a broken rubber-band, and two beloved(black)hens
die overnight; Grace, staunch and protective mother, and Sweetie, most willful
and brave, and both too clever for their own good, succumb to wounds sustained
when snuck-out of their separate pen, being-set-upon and overwhelmed
by roosters; and she doesnt know why, she cant stop tears
about the event, their spirits being o, so dear,
and gone, and who in the hungering
world, to grieve the loss
of two like them;
and three(four)days ago, when it first said chresterion, then and there(deep)blue(ultra-
marine)Javan kingfisher, Halcyon cyanoventris, lands on a jepun tree;
she writes it then she crosses it out; cause its not like shes the best
at parsing verbs or nouns in ancient greek; and how
dare she believe the unbelievable; and how
hardly she feels its not her right;
and yesterday as she eats lunch, in treetops over-looking Campuhan pura-river-
ravine, red rice, tempe, arugula, miso-sesame, but hard to swallow for lack
of appetite, a green imperial pigeon, pergam hijau, flip-flaps onto a branch
nearby (where she lives are not a lot of windows, as living-space
is mostly outside), and if she sees it, and believes, she feels
not brave, but being-swallowed
in a world of signs;
but the goddesses(you run)(you shine)(you gaze)(she would gaze)(you would be put
in place)(by looking at)(by contemplation)(by the sight)shouted and cried
in EXULTED ULULATIONS —
aiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaieeeeeeeeeiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiiiiiiiii
all of them(o all)(o-whole-feminine)together.
θεαὶ δ᾽ ὀλόλυξαν ἅπασαι.
from hymn 3 to Apollo
fog of nine parts over twelve days (4/9)
thus(she)spake; but rejoice(and hail)Delos, and exchanging
and replying(o replying)(o returning-braiding)she was(amoebeing . . .
o holy-mogis-pos-will-be-mother, the whole fog-)voicing-through;
ὣς φάτο: χαῖρε δὲ Δῆλος, ἀμειβομένη δὲ προσηύδα:
Leto, most-glorious daughter of great Koios(you would mark)(you
would cry)(indeed-methinks-i-finally-do — by the dog, shes weaving-
all-nighters, for two — through four, or more — yet, still —
Λητοῖ, κυδίστη θύγατερ μεγάλου Κοίοιο,
)gladly-welcomed, i, at least, would receive(i would bring
to light)your offspring(seed)(generation)(birth)(they were, i am
bringing forth, to bring forth)from-afar the(HEKATOS)lord;
for horribly(dreadful stories)true(o truthful one)(i)(truthful)am bad-
wailing-(war-death-harpy)-sounding(to)(for)by men; and thus,
(we)honored-all-around(we)
would i become.
ἀσπασίη κεν ἐγώ γε γονὴν ἑκάτοιο ἄνακτος
δεξαίμην: αἰνῶς γὰρ ἐτήτυμόν εἰμι δυσηχὴς
ἀνδράσιν: ὧδε δέ κεν περιτιμήεσσα γενοίμην.
but this(word-song)(i)tremble, o Leto, (o this)word-song, nor will(i)
conceal(this word-song)(from)you(who are concealed(in this));
for(overly)(will be twanged)they say, some(hubristic)Apollo(overly)
reckless, uncaring, foolish, ruinous and ungovernable(like
too many, too eager suitors)(overly)(will
be twanged)will be,
and loudly-bigly-will-willfuly-hold-political-sway amongst immortals
and(indeed)for mortals(who)liable-to-death(know neither ships,
with their date-palm-bellies-swelling-fat-purple-pink, nor
the balancing of scales — Athenai, represent —
)upon spelt-giving land.
ἀλλὰ τόδε τρομέω, Λητοῖ, ἔπος, οὐδέ σε κεύσω:
λίην γάρ τινά φασιν ἀτάσθαλον Ἀπόλλωνα
ἔσσεσθαι, μέγα δὲ πρυτανευσέμεν ἀθανάτοισι
καὶ θνητοῖσι βροτοῖσιν ἐπὶ ζείδωρον ἄρουραν.
for those, then and there, horribly(i, Penelope-testing, do)fear,
both through(against)phren(tummy-heart-centered-wits-waiting)
and against(through)thumos(breath-spirit-savage-tasting-heart —
as if I don’t remember clearly (as 6 + 3) the last time —
and one year later (that makes 4) —
and with that fucking oar —
how you left us,
before,
again,
)lest whenever the first time he would see(youd be seen, by sheen
of metal)(by ships-timber-tree)light(o daylight)(fire-in-his-eyes-
bright)(a way out)(delight, deliverance, victory, glory)(the dark-
ring)(if somewhere he still lives)(he sees his other one)(around
a nipple)(areola)(black from Hades, unseen)(by the hole)of the sun,
τῷ ῥ᾽ αἰνῶς δείδοικα κατὰ φρένα καὶ κατὰ θυμόν,
μή, ὁπότ᾽ ἂν τὸ πρῶτον ἴδῃ φάος ἠελίοιο,
and dishonoring(you dishonor)(her, again)
the island(as before, will be swimming
and spinning and piling-
up-unwoven string,
in heaps —
o MUSE, sing me the woman
who was ever allowed
to count, OUTLOUD —
)since(you approach the dyad-word-song, are you)really(or)
(i was surely, he said)hard-rocky-grounded(home)(i)am —
by feet(by husbanding)(id over-)turn(and twisting)down(catastrophe)
against(trampling-on, ruining)he would thrust(nail-head, youd
be thrusted)(by thrusting)into the salty-grey sea —
νῆσον ἀτιμήσας, ἐπεὶ ἦ κραναήπεδός εἰμι,
ποσσὶ καταστρέψας ὤσῃ ἁλὸς ἐν πελάγεσσιν,
and now, there(he is)(they are)(he comes and goes)(and come
and go, he says, to me, in the imperative, of)my own self —
(on the one hand)the great(swollen)wave(o flood)(my pregnancy)
(down)against(through)my head(face)(skull)in crowds(aplenty)
(enough)always, it would wash(dash) — (surge) — over(my sanity) —
(on the other hand)he will arrive on(me)the other earth,
who would please(youd be pleased, youd take pleasure, by)him, (me)
to be made(prepared and performed-as)the temple(ship-like)dwelling
and hallowed-wooded(with tree-like markings)groves(of green) —
ἔνθ᾽ ἐμὲ μὲν μέγα κῦμα κατὰ κρατὸς ἅλις αἰεὶ
κλύσσει: ὃ δ᾽ ἄλλην γαῖαν ἀφίξεται, ἥ κεν ἅδῃ οἱ,
τεύξασθαι νηόν τε καὶ ἄλσεα δενδρήεντα:
o(his)polypodes(slime-suckered, skin-(g)ripping things)in my-own-self!
(so protean, he would throw-up)lurking-places(cavities)(lairs)(of a cave-
grave)(the pores of sponges)(nostrils)(recesses in my brain-
bone)and murky seals(o dark seals)(by
the slickening-sea-dog . . .
πουλύποδες δ᾽ ἐν ἐμοὶ θαλάμας φῶκαί τε μέλαιναι
)they will make houses(palaces)(dyad-dwellings)(unburied)uncared-for,
(sisters-)in-lack(ing bedding, spider-webbings-wedding)(just like
you left Argos, of the patient heart, but)of people(d audience,
people-responsibilities, people-needs, left
sisters-in-stones —
οἰκία ποιήσονται ἀκηδέα, χήτεϊ λαῶν.
from hymn 3 to Apollo
cf Homers Odyssey
4.404(seals of Proteus)
5.432(polypodon thalames)
16.35(spider web bedding)
16.86(hubris of suitors)
17.292(Argos talasiphronos)
20.207(ever if he still lives)
23.273(Pen and the sign)
Iliad 2.548(Athenianships)
etc.
fog of nine parts over twelve days (1/9)
(i)(from-afar)shall remember and in no way(o threshold,
o way)would (i) escape the notice of Apollo(hekatos)from-afar,
the one whom, when going and coming(o gods)(she would run)(shine,
gleam)(contemplate)through the house(build, you)(she builds)(i
build)of Zeus, the gods tremble(by trembling)(going and coming);
and there and then(i will snarl)(easy)(i will sprinkle water)they
spring up(by darting up)(eagerly)near-to the coming and going,
all(o all)from their seats, when(she)stretches(and strains)out
the shining(radiant)(glistening)(famous)(phaidrean)(rain)bows.
μνήσομαι οὐδὲ λάθωμαι Ἀπόλλωνος ἑκάτοιο,
ὅντε θεοὶ κατὰ δῶμα Διὸς τρομέουσιν ἰόντα:
καί ῥά τ᾽ ἀναΐσσουσιν ἐπὶ σχεδὸν ἐρχομένοιο
πάντες ἀφ᾽ ἑδράων, ὅτε φαίδιμα τόξα τιταίνει.
but Leto alone stays(stay, you)beside delights-in-the-thunderbolt Zeus,
and she there and then(the bow)(living)(o living)(they lived)(living)(life)
let loose(and released)and shut(and enclosed)the quiver and bow,
Λητὼ δ᾽ οἴη μίμνε παραὶ Διὶ τερπικεραύνῳ,
ἥ ῥα βιόν τ᾽ ἐχάλασσε καὶ ἐκλήισσε φαρέτρην,
and(she)taking them from the wowow shoulders by the hands(taking)
(rain)bows suspends(hangs)up(down)towards the pillar of its father
of the peg(phallus)of gold; but(she)seats him, into the(herb)throne,
(she)(leading)(fetching)(bringing)(carrying)(guiding)(commanding)
(drawing out)(and describing)(holding as an event)(and celebrating)
(weighing down a scale)(with a certain weight)and taking for herself.
καί οἱ ἀπ᾽ ἰφθίμων ὤμων χείρεσσιν ἑλοῦσα
τόξα κατεκρέμασε πρὸς κίονα πατρὸς ἑοῖο
πασσάλου ἐκ χρυσέου: τὸν δ᾽ ἐς θρόνον εἷσεν ἄγουσα.
by(it)then the father gives(offers)(grants)nectar(by)the vessel of gold
showing(manifesting)the beloved child; and then the other daimones
thereupon sit down; and the mistress-lady Leto rejoices,
because(she)gave birth to the(rain)bow-bearing and(mighty)steadfast child.
τῷ δ᾽ ἄρα νέκταρ ἔδωκε πατὴρ δέπαϊ χρυσείῳ
δεικνύμενος φίλον υἱόν: ἔπειτα δὲ δαίμονες ἄλλοι
ἔνθα καθίζουσιν: χαίρει δέ τε πότνια Λητώ,
οὕνεκα τοξοφόρον καὶ καρτερὸν υἱὸν ἔτικτε.
rejoice, O blessed Leto, since you gave birth to two glorious children,
Apollo the lord and Artemis of the pouring-forth-(poison?)-arrows,
the one in Ortygia, the other in rugged Delos, (o she)having(bending)(giving-
way)(reclining)(resting)toward the great mountain and Kynthian riverbank,
the most-nearly-like the palm tree(phoenix)(red-purple)(a sticky date),
on the flows of the river-fountain Inopoio.
χαῖρε, μάκαιρ᾽ ὦ Λητοῖ, ἐπεὶ τέκες ἀγλαὰ τέκνα,
Ἀπόλλωνά τ᾽ ἄνακτα καὶ Ἄρτεμιν ἰοχέαιραν,
τὴν μὲν ἐν Ὀρτυγίῃ, τὸν δὲ κραναῇ ἐνὶ Δήλῳ,
κεκλιμένη πρὸς μακρὸν ὄρος καὶ Κύνθιον ὄχθον,
ἀγχοτάτω φοίνικος, ἐπ᾽ Ἰνωποῖο ῥεέθροις.
from hymn 3 to Apollo
as harmonium despair (we trial six-handed instruments) as immortalities
exhalation:
we need every breath you give
we must bind it with our own
so the One receives our dyad
inhalation:
(word being soul)
instrument:
by through-takings, would you shelter me,
O whistling, flute-playing-Pan,
through the body of a child,
through-bodied-father
embodying the all —
turnings-conjoined-
round O whole-
playing-part
grown-in, would you put-on your hands?
chord:
to take care is to hold
sisters crying-out
in-visibles
to cure
//
ἐκ δὴ
τούτου τοῦ λόγου
διαίταις
ἐπὶ πᾶν
τὸ σῶμα
τρεπόμενοι
μετὰ τοῦ ὅλου
τὸ μέρος
ἐπιχειροῦσιν
θεραπεύειν τε
καὶ ἰᾶσθαι
156ξ
//
mogis pos
a sentence around ultra-violetting girls
for we are, O Charmides, the love-charming eyes,
and like this she-song, the sort not to claim powers
to make healthy and sound the lonely head,
but like youre already making equals delights,
twice-sevenning and hearing-do-gooding healers,
(you do good)(lets do good)(our best)(as we can),
whenever anyone, as you and me, comes to them-
selves, as pain-suffering eyes,
they say, somehow, by saying that it doesnt do,
to put hands on solitary selves (you make alone)(as
you, ultra-violetting, you were and will be crying
aloud) to cure the eyes,
but it(perforce, from prison)(it lets)(let it)would be
our girls, and at the same time, would be necessary
to take care of her-head,
if it would be destined, by intending to do, and indeed,
(i see you)(you see me)(we give sight)(to giving sight),
to have well, and to hold well, the shes of the eyes,
ἔστι γάρ,
ὦ Χαρμίδη
τοιαύτη οἵα μὴ δύνασθαι
τὴν κεφαλὴν μόνον ὑγιᾶ ποιεῖν
ἀλλ᾽ ὥσπερ ἴσως
ἤδη καὶ σὺ ἀκήκοας
τῶν ἀγαθῶν ἰατρῶν
ἐπειδάν τις αὐτοῖς προσέλθῃ
τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς ἀλγῶν
λέγουσί που ὅτι
οὐχ οἷόν τε
αὐτοὺς μόνους ἐπιχειρεῖν
τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς ἰᾶσθαι
ἀλλ᾽ ἀναγκαῖον εἴη
ἅμα καὶ
τὴν κεφαλὴν θεραπεύειν
εἰ μέλλοι
καὶ τὰ τῶν ὀμμάτων εὖ ἔχειν
156β
//
mogis pos
down hard on his hunted hart
i know im the ugly sister
my poetrys too self-involved
i hear, hear the deepness glimmer
i criss-cross blew-eyes-resolved
so i lack the slightest word
to let you know i-really-do
so i give you this old thing
i pray to gods whats green gets through
beautifully at least you are to me
now you will find i love your ass
as we-making-together-be
a subtle feast undying grass
καλῶς γε σύ
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ
ποιῶν
156α
//
kompsos
ritual persuasion
and he says,
then i shall write it down,
beside you,
the song.
but whether
(all of this is)
we being irreducible . . .
if you persuade me,
or even if not?
maybe (all of this is) really
just we being incorrigible?
(me and you, we-women laugh, and hes laughing too)
(i remember when you tasked me a simian-similar-ask)
(oh, its very important to him-and-us that this all be light-
hearted-funny. her laughter is the sound of the ego, dead
and dying many times over)(inside comedy inside tragedy
inside comedy until he is goodly dead)(tears our witness
as the armor of its insanity protects the truth)(humor is
the most difficult to carry. the loss of the comedy portion
of Aristotles poetics kills us here, but one thing i remember
he says — i dont have time to find the exact line, but did
you know, that poor Aristotles books werent written by him,
but reconstructed from lecture notes? well, one of the most
funny-being things was animals acting like humans, i ass-
umed also humans acting like animals. but i remember us
laughing at how un-funny that was.)(i said to the mask-
maker, isnt every mask a monkey mask?)(love, i demand
he agree)
if i-we persuade you-we,
he says,
O Socrates.
okay, okay. we
let we-being irreducible.
and the name of me,
which i-we will call,
would you-we perfect it?
if not, injustice
is we-without-you,
he says.
for yours is not some oligos logos
amongst we of the leaf.
but i
as being a child (make-music perfect tension relief)
by the names (which have been diverse and wild)
by the dresses (often inappropriately we-coded)
by the beach (and her sunrise you already kissed)
by the valley (and her cooling rivers i already miss)
by all of this here (& the seventh letter in my first)
always-already-remember-together-being-you
καὶ ὅς
Ἀπογράψομαι τοίνυν
ἔφη
παρὰ σοῦ τὴν ἐπῳδήν
πότερον
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ
ἐάν με πείθῃς
ἢ κἂν μή
γελάσας οὖν
ἐάν σε πείθω
ἔφη
ὦ Σώκρατες
εἶεν
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ
καὶ τοὔνομά μου
σὺ ἀκριβοῖς
εἰ μὴ ἀδικῶ γε
ἔφη
οὐ γάρ τι σοῦ ὀλίγος λόγος ἐστὶν
ἐν τοῖς ἡμετέροις ἡλικιώταις
μέμνημαι δὲ ἔγωγε
καὶ παῖς ὢν
Κριτίᾳ τῷδε
συνόντα σε
156α
//
mogis pos
🌑
we of the leaf (hemeteroi helikiotai)
we being irreducible (say you)(they say)(O saying one)(i say)(the saying)
that itself (it let)(let it) would be a leaf
but some song (she) sung upon the pharmakon (lets it)(it lets) be me
if someone would sing (she) along (you) and at the same time (me) (inquire)(use)(consult)(entreat)(experience) (being slightly wounded) by we
all in all in all we will make a (healthy) living tree (and overgrowingly) would make the pharmakon
but without (send it up)(let it grow wild)(accomplish it) of the song
no help would be (neither to nor from) of the leaf
καὶ ἐγὼ εἶπον
ὅτι αὐτὸ μὲν εἴη
φύλλον τι
ἐπῳδὴ δέ τις
ἐπὶ τῷ φαρμάκῳ
εἴη
ἣν εἰ μέν τις ἐπᾴδοι
ἅμα καὶ
χρῷτο αὐτῷ
παντάπασιν
ὑγιᾶ ποιοῖ
τὸ φάρμακον
ἄνευ δὲ
τῆς ἐπῳδῆς
οὐδὲν ὄφελος εἴη
τοῦ φύλλου
155ε
kudianerotesia (if man is mortal then what are we)
our eyes the sea to see
inside the armor of a dress
fire-setting-me
no longer in myself
they are it is
i am i say
i hold
as it were my law
the wisest to be
this englorification of we
by Love
εἶδόν τε
τὰ ἐντὸς τοῦ ἱματίου
καὶ ἐφλεγόμην
καὶ οὐκέτ᾽ ἐν ἐμαυτοῦ
ἦν
καὶ ἐνόμισα σοφώτατον εἶναι
τὸν Κυδίαν τὰ ἐρωτικά
155δ
prince of a triple-ply turn-on
from afar he turns me on
i am a shuddering tree
his hands all over me
leaves on my limbs
belonging and dying
i reach toward a second son
tight grips after gentle strokes
this beautiful(wood)(line)binding
he makes me
he makes me feel
he wakes me up
when i am a real woman
//
indeed this
(they were)(it was)i was(saying)
O beloved Critias
from afar to you(all)
(is) the beautiful(wood)(line)
(you)descend(s) from kinship with Solon
155α
τοῦτο μέν
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ
ὦ φίλε Κριτία
πόρρωθεν ὑμῖν
τὸ καλὸν
ὑπάρχει ἀπὸ τῆς Σόλωνος συγγενείας
american shade (lost verse)
where i wait a stranger shape
every wave is washing dry and clear
a seashell is a hollow place
an island is an ariel escape
hibiscus flowers are growing near
i put one behind my ear
taste the battle, taste the fear
and when the wind blows straight through here
salt in the chorus
//
and the others were really same-saying
same as these with Chaerephon
i, Heracles, was saying
as (one) battle-less
(unconquerable)
yall speak of the man
συνέφασαν οὖν καὶ οἱ ἄλλοι
ταὐτὰ ταῦτα τῷ Χαιρεφῶντι
κἀγώ Ἡράκλεις ἔφην
ὡς ἄμαχον
λέγετε
τὸν ἄνδρα
154δ
//
at the beach
for Cancer season
🌗
as the tombstone of a dead president
oh sally, oh sally
its always been you
youve always been my one
let me sign that draft
with autopen, in-de-pen-
dence dec-la-ray-shun
did even tender roses
launder their senses
inside the wicker fences
at monticello
//
and (he) Chaerephon(you
summoned)ing me
what to you
appears t(he) young man
(he) was saying
O Socrates
(is he) not handsome (?)
154ξ
καὶ ὁ Χαιρεφῶν
καλέσας με
τί σοι
φαίνεται ὁ νεανίσκος
ἔφη
ὦ Σώκρατες
οὐκ εὐπρόσωπος
tendrils in a warm pumpkin patch
dancing is bondage in freedom
my feet belong (to you, to you)
my eyes belong (also to you)
so that they and i were (glutting ourselves)
having been struck out (of ourselves)
having been thrown into bewilderment
my feet belong (to you, to you)
my eyes belong (only to you)
my ears are the shape of secrets
when he was entering
//
οὕτως ἐκπεπληγμένοι τε καὶ τεθορυβημένοι ἦσαν
ἡνίκ᾽ εἰσῄει
//
changed “seemed” to
“appeared” for ephane
the meirax of moist
for nothing shabby even
then, green and golden
(they were)(i was)(i was saying)
still being (whole)child
and now i guess somehow very
well, flown and flowing
if (they) would already
(let)be of a youth(maiden)
— the meirax is (moist)fluid as a slipper
river maiden golden child
the meirax (is) slippery and loud
river maiden wild
//
for nothing shabby
even then
(they were)(i was)(i was saying)
still being (whole)child
and now i guess somehow
very well
if (they) would already
(let)be of a youth(maiden)
οὐ γάρ τι φαῦλος
οὐδὲ τότε
ἦν
ἔτι παῖς ὤν
νῦν δ᾽ οἶμαί που
εὖ μάλα
ἂν ἤδη
μειράκιον εἴη
154β
//
δαιμονίως
witch piece cake
in skin prick, i fly across oceans
arrive on the lotus-letters island
of the long-lost highland kingdom
stir and spell a terrible journey
through holy wood by central castling.
to announce my flawless fingers
persuade his drawbridges lowered
which were guarded by a giantess
and cross over the lava moat.
with clean hair only do we enter
the dragon reception, a masque
of marbles clouds and berries.
here is where i will eat out
the remainder of my salad days
sweetly, sing the saffron rage of birds.
with which natural-born prince
whisper in the quartz crystal ball
an uncomplicated lover, yes —
of inexhaustible grief and faith
in these wettest, wildest dreams.
but it appears to me
indeed he
(himself) nearly
already (pleasures)
perhaps
to be
approaching —
//