Sailing
VIII.xxiv. ( we wont ) rot ( unless ) we forget ( its his pòò ) in the well
ADEIMANTOS: O sailors of our craft, O Polly-tay,
how blows the wind on this, her holly-day?
SAILORS: who( which-all? )( what-all? )( -all? ), then,
( o somebodys )( o anybodys )( o many anyones )
( do you pay the price? )( do you pay-off your debt? )
( she-dyad-god )( was she binding )( bind, you )( god-
needed-bound )( was she in-need )( need, you )
( she-dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ) ?
τίνες δή;
ADEIMANTOS: aaah . . . she holds so much uncertainty,
but still its me, o yet-un-answered-we !
and how exhilaration bellows off the sea !
these breezes high indeed, and so far-flung
from smog of city men, she saves our lung.
but ( the air is thick with the smell of rot )
below, within our private pilots cell.
for she without be she within as well,
and ( weve been burning dupa ) given me
as gifts from islanders who welcome guests.
for there be no more pious men than what
some unreal men call swarthy savages,
gave scent helps me-ears mingling mightly.
whereby ( we hear ) shes ( clinging on tightly )
to what, an ear, an oar, the yard-arm or
the mast, broke be that merry beam no more,
no scrub for me, no scrub for her, sailors
supplied to do all dirtier chores,
let me, let be, relax, o soothing sea.. ( . . . Enya )
. . ( ..and then we talk )-( with her and really listening )-( better ),
HERA: but still( he )who, at least,
braver( stronger-mightier-better ) — be(
we )as much as far-sounding( euru-opa )Zeus( would be
braver )( mightier )( stronger )( better )( than )Kronos,
ἀλλ᾽ ὅ γε φέρτερος ἔστω, ὅσον Κρόνου εὐρύοπα Ζεύς.
SOKRATES: which( even-indeed, o )most wonderful
( marvellous, extraordinary )of all to hear,
ὃ μὲν πάντων θαυμαστότατον ἀκοῦσαι,
ADEIMANTOS: lets fare-thee-well, O best goddess !
at least as much as Euru-dike would-( we
)-be braver than Euru-opa? what crazy ratios.
but would that she ( who made herself in me ) meet herself ( in we ) !
our promise as our payment, dear divine,
( and everything Achilles would to pine ),
yet smouldering ( of leaves ) leaves air unclear.
( the what ifs and the buts ) begin to appear
soon as our flourish in pink ( -ink ) on papier,
SOKRATES: that in each of( those )which( we )praised
( approved, commended )( of )the( she- )nature
( growth-birth-origin )
( it )destroys( demolishes )( slays )( lays waste )( loses )
the( she- )having-holding-
( they cool )( we cool )( to be cool )( cooling )( of her )-soul
( life, spirit, ghost, source, self ),
ὅτι ἓν ἕκαστον ὧν ἐπῃνέσαμεν τῆς φύσεως ἀπόλλυσι τὴν ἔχουσαν ψυχὴν
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed to live in crucial-fiction, which ( witch ) brings
us to the ever-controversial ( mushrooms ).
first thing a mushroom ( we are ) many things.
it goes both ways, or three or four, parts-sing.
( we recommend those only grown on dung
or best discovered with a trusted pig. )
eat me, they seem to say, eat her, or you?
or you-know-who! or him? not mine to say.
and mushrooms come in different kinds, my kids,
( unsafe to say weve tried more than a few? )
they do a number on my surely-temple,
on whom, we wait for guidance from above
as sailors hit the decks, tripping-( and for
a moment )-if our sailors loose the ship —
SOKRATES: and( indeed, it )( would )tears- and drag( away-
from )( you )( would )( be tearing-away-
from )( she- )philosophy( wisdom-love ),
καὶ ἀποσπᾷ φιλοσοφίας.
ADEIMANTOS: as which, we call a mushroom bad-for-you ( poison ).
( but this has been a little prophecy )
( exteeeeeeeeeeeeeeended metaphor )
( a little pharmacy of written word )
( translating too all of the media that
the vast
numbers of men consume ) ( and possibly soul-
alter-
altar-ring technology ) ( which leaves a lot
of room ) ( we maybe beauty-calling scrolls )
but ( we flip? ) into this irony ( of anti-scroll
as these-shes grow the trippiest of blooms )
and how spores drift in the all-pink
( a soul put under things at her own risk )
( and men on-going tax her stretchiness )
( he-they his remedy or pharmakon for his )
( he-they his own doctor his own ills )
as ( the hopeful dreams ) gathering- and holding-in,
( and the things we refuse to say ) to my best friend,
( really? ) ( of course ) my best friend ( we-being ) second-self,
( easy for him to say ) ( just stole to-for-by Aristotle )
( we are true pirates, through it all )-( but shhh )
in letters like a daily vitamin,
in some ancient cloud of shroom, weird-stream,
( by our best-friend-ship )-( we forget to hate myself )
and so this mushroom got our horses out,
SOKRATES: but( we would )say( she- )manliness( courage ),
λέγω δὲ ἀνδρείαν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and you pinch )-( the goblin that lives in my head )
not hard! ( but fit to chase it out of bed )
( then baits it with a bite ) of ( sprinkles! ) sweet medicine.
and possibly the goblin could turn cat
( or rat ) ( or dinosaur ) ( and it could bite me pretty bad )
( but we wont let go of the wanting ) and even
as we never did, even in ( my scare-
crone heart )-( born on fragrant spring mornings )
( in her salad days ) ( before the unrealpolitik )
( before bad wisdom ) yet salvaging the goods
( as drawing butterflies on whats discarded )
( to-by-for ) me and you ( becoming beautiful
and young again ) ( in-seeming poetics of )
SOKRATES: ( she-)moderation( sophrosune )( sound-
mindedness, prudence, discretion )
and( indeed )
( all things )which( she-dyad )( we )go through
all( which )( things )( his-so-called-all )( the she-dyad ),
σωφροσύνην καὶ πάντα ἃ διήλθομεν.
ADEIMANTOS: but we have some words on poems
haphazard heraldry ( even seeming innocuously )
when living words get put down as fixed form.
( they turn into the ache of yearning ) tossed
across however many continents,
with latitude and longitude intact,
but tissue burden highly over-stretched,
for ( the yearning ) never could yearning dispell
and such i( wheres the we? )s life, and such i( wheres the we? )s happiness,
all mans desire(s residuum ) ( keeps poisoning
the well of hope ) like all my cold hard pennies cast
for wishes
( swallowed fishes )
( empty stare )
HERAKLES: but Hermes sent( escorted-conducted )me,
and( look, you )gleaming-( glaukopis )-
eyed Athena( o Athens, o Politeia ),
Ἑρμείας δέ μ᾽ ἔπεμψεν ἰδὲ γλαυκῶπις Ἀθήνη.'
ADEIMANTOS: so circumnavigated metaphors,
but written as ourselves of messy words,
or forceful dreams, dreams of a force to reckon
with her eyesight even ( as intense as the nettles )
would we guard ( the dreaming ) until ( we earn his name ) ?
and even as we drink ( the water never fully clear ) ?
and as to navigation ( on some how-divided-line ) ?
whats some logos ( word-speech-ratio-account ) as set down
here, that would ( will ) keep us well on the way?
SAILORS: placeless( out-of-place, out-of-the-way, un-
wonted, extra-ordinary, strange,
para-doxical, ab-surd )
( a-topos ),
ἄτοπον,
SOKRATES: ( smiles primly and steeples his hands )
well even ( with their outstretched arms ) in love
( no matter how hard we keep trying ) him ( its purifying! )
( my nettle tea ) he wont ( we wont ) seize hold of me,
ADEIMANTOS: even( indeed )beautiful( her-we-being )
therefore( to-by-for )me,
καλὴ μὲν οὖν μοι
SAILORS: ( he )was saying,
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: and indeed they ( reach for me on my way home )
( theres always a drop somewhere ) ( or how do you live? )
but he wont ( we wont ) be poisoned by his hope ( or his despair ),
ADEIMANTOS: and( indeed )the( she- )guidance( pompe )
( conduct, escort, sending-home, sending-mission, she-procession )
( of )( the local customs )( of the chorus )( of the dances )
( on the open spaces )( epi-chorion )( on the chora )
would seem-seemly to( we-being )be,
καὶ ἡ τῶν ἐπιχωρίων πομπὴ ἔδοξεν εἶναι,
SAILORS: to hear,
ἀκοῦσαι. (491ξ)
SOKRATES: from the unsightly, he may feel fear.
however ( not quite touching ) his unseen ( she )heart,
he wont ( we wont ) look backwards at her shade.
ADEIMANTOS: not however( even-indeed-by-you )inferior
( o worse, weaker, less, fewer )( did she )appear( shining-
forth )to resemble( be conspicuously like, befit, beseem )
( she )whom the Thracians( o Thracians )( we )were sending, <3
οὐ μέντοι ἧττον ἐφαίνετο πρέπειν ἣν οἱ Θρᾷκες ἔπεμπον.
SOKRATES: just so, he holds my trust and confidence
no worse than they hold my written art;
( and then it spreads ) abroad our pharmakon.
ALL: ( and blowing in the wind for all to hear )
and then it spreads abroad our pharmakon !
ADEIMANTOS: ( . . . ) ( later in our private cell )
yet he left me with more questions than when ( whò? )
began. ( yet it had been the ) END ( of ) part VIII
( until ) ( . . . )
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic I, VI, X
Odyssey. 11.613-626
tiny lines ( green glades ) warm bodies
ADEIMANTOS: o dear Herakles, its very strange ( we are )
as all the dreams it seemed were hers, to keep
under the deepness of Kalupsos veil,
begin re-surfacing, warmth from below.
as of their own billow, yet familiar.
and once before, he sent me to fetch Pindar,
like busting-out some long-forgotten gramps,
another little ( fuck the end goal ) act,
becoming his own victory wreath in fact.
does somebody not-at-all fawn on Kalupso?
PINDAR: but if someone within
( they gave in )( gave up )( gave way )( surrendered )( yield )
( deals-out )( dispenses )( pays out )holds( hoards )( you hoard )
( to-by-for )( a dyad-glade )hidden( secret, clandestine )wealth
( riches, treasure ),
εἰ δέ τις ἔνδον νέμει πλοῦτον κρυφαῖον,
ADEIMANTOS: but only playing music with real men,
PINDAR: but( while )falling-upon( meeting )( attacking )( he )laughs
( delights )( you would laugh )( to-by-for )others,
(100) ἄλλοισι δ᾽ ἐμπίπτων γελᾷ,
ADEIMANTOS: as for the third time ( fuck the end goal ),
PINDAR: ( the )( she- )soul( life, spirit, self )( to-by-for )Hades,
( he )( will be accomplishing )achieving( its )end( of ends )
( of ones having reached their end )not
ψυχὰν Ἀΐδᾳ τελέων οὐ
ADEIMANTOS: so sneaky with his line breaks to
PINDAR: show-forth( tell, declare )( make-known )( perceive, observe )
( expectations, beliefs, reputations, glories )( the soul,
life, spirit, self )( he )seeming( far away from )
( expectation, belief, reputation )glory without,
φράζεται δόξας ἄνευθεν.
ADEIMANTOS: thats him with most of the guts spilled out.
and if you try to put the guts back in,
a simpler shadow, but almost the opposite of him,
attempted facial reconstruction, or
the outer he-hand-in manually dis-
contains the inner whole?
PINDAR: but if anyone hoards hidden wealth( green glades )within,
while marking others( whats? )with laughter( derision? ),
they dont perceive( nor show )the soul, without
a reputation, achieves its end( un-seemingly )in Hades.
ADEIMANTOS: but hm, couldnt it also be,
PINDAR: the soul, without
an expectation, achieves its end( en-gloriously )by Hades,
ADEIMANTOS: but o, these leave me so many questions
exposed. holding this small yet manly creature
in my hands, he wont stay still, so actively alone
or agonizing, or does he host our secret club
for brunch? how would you translate him?
HERAKLES: and( indeed )once( o drinkin-drunk )he sent me( thither- )
hither to( will-to )( dyad- )lead-carry-fetch-
bring( the o dyad- )dog,
( they-were led-fetched-brought )
( they-will lead-fetch-bring ),
καί ποτέ μ᾽ ἐνθάδ᾽ ἔπεμψε κύν᾽ ἄξοντ᾽:
ADEIMANTOS: o you, but were we really such
a Kerberos? ( get it ) ( a Care Bear - os? )
( the rest and recharge ) seeming long enough,
that sizzle building everywhere round here,
until ( we can almost feel ) another earth
( bust out across her cosmic dancing floor ),
( and we feel giddy ) with this possibility
which ( we are happy to hear ) many returns
( the valley trembles with the laughter of words ),
SAILORS: ( ragin )violently( drunk )at least,
σφόδρα γε.
ADEIMANTOS: for thats how we set out to find you, friend.
but look, he never would have sent me here
alone. he needed me to learn really
to share. so guided by ( your body heat )
and by her ( maybe a tad silly ) under-
over-statement ( our de-stabled song ),
didnt he leave us everything, not only
for my survival, but everything ( needed
for my revival ) ( and all our horses too ) ?
HERAKLES: for( he )didnt consider( ponder, purpose, plan,
suppose, observe )( there )( we )to be( are )yet( o fellows )( an )other
stronger( mightier )task( contest-struggle-ordeal )
( to-by-for )me, at least, ( than )this,
οὐ γὰρ ἔτ᾽ ἄλλον
φράζετο τοῦδέ γέ μοι κρατερώτερον εἶναι ἄεθλον:
ADEIMANTOS: to bring her back from famously unseen?
( but tiny lines draw big pictures ) indeed,
and ones ( so close to me ) with extra gravity
stirrup kuklonik storms, and red-rimmed-eyes,
and all that force ( requires such safety )
and sensitivity as ( extra-dyad-security ),
SOKRATES: of these( o dyad-god )
( she was binding )( bind, you )( god-needed-bound )
( she was in-need )( need, you )( the dyad-god )
( indeed )must( be ),
( of )the slight-few
( look, you! )
( he )looks( at )( considers )( and beholds ),
τούτων δὴ τῶν ὀλίγων σκόπει
ADEIMANTOS: and so daimonic ( growing underground )
and utterly lazy, and lets this be our luxury,
the slighter-few, the better-tea, to taste.
( and then we feel ) safe, cozy, warm ( only
the presence ) of me and you and trusted words
enjoying ourselves ( and the artwork were in )
floating across her rosy surreality
would bloom into his dance of many forms,
SOKRATES: as( o )many( he )destructions
( ruins, pests, plagues, pandemics, deaths )
and( indeed )( as )( many )( he )greats( bigs, full-
growns, vasts, highs, wides and longs,
mighties and strongs )( impressives ),
ὡς πολλοὶ ὄλεθροι καὶ μεγάλοι.
ADEIMANTOS: ( but giggling uncontrolled )
and with ( the lightest touch ) from them ( his hims )
( but maybe when we play with him he gets
more firm? ) you stop it now, and how on earth
would somebody perform? ( ok lets act elegant )
and with ( the lightest touch ) from her, she moves
right through, across, against, yet soothes the waves,
our she-vessel bringing me, and horses, her,
( we becoming )-( steadily more beautiful )
until we give birth even to the presence
really ( of another warm body ) ?
HERAKLES: it( even )indeed( we )i( being )brought( raised
it )up( and back )( poured-forth )( traced-to )( restored )
and( indeed )( they led )( we )led( fetched-carried-
brought )( it )out( from )Hades,
τὸν μὲν ἐγὼν ἀνένεικα καὶ ἤγαγον ἐξ Ἀίδαο:
ADEIMANTOS: yet as ( the dream is real )-( we-being-we ),
the dreaming returns all to me once more.
( in wanting there is fear )-( we are aware ).
so may we hold our fear, even as we hold a child
beloved. even as what we ( could offer ) her
( and trying never to steal the thunder from
tomorrows storm ) would be gladly to deal-out-
inwardly and hold and hoard ( green glades )
( green glades ) ( green glades ) as well as
such excellent odes from a somebody.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Pindar Isthmian 1
Republic VI
Odyssey XI.613-626
VIII.xii. end goal-( wild-( in a language( the wave of )unknown )-fire )-fighting sleep
ADEIMANTOS: hold on to your buts,
MEDEIS( NOBODY ): O( to-by-for )me( we )i( being )cowardly( vile,
worthless, lowborn, mean, afraid, miserable, wretched, poor ),
ADEIMANTOS: we ask myself,
MEDEIS: what( someone )now( to-by-for )me longest-
lasting( would be )born?
ὤ μοι ἐγὼ δειλός, τί νύ μοι μήκιστα γένηται;
ADEIMANTOS: keep your ifs inside the she-vessel,
PINDAR: ( o )HIGHEST( uppermost, most supreme )horse-driver
( charioteer )( thunder-hurler )( lyre-striker )( rower )
( who drives away )( a broad, flat cake )( hoop-stick )
of untiring( of foot )thunder —
( astonishment ! )
ZEUS,
ἐλατὴρ ὑπέρτατε βροντᾶς ἀκαμαντόποδος Ζεῦ:
ADEIMANTOS: but keep your ands easy to reach-for,
HERAKLES: but he( and yall )inflicted upon( imposed )
( commanded-charged-prescribed )
( gave an order )( to-by-for )me
difficult( cruel-harsh-stern-dangerous-violent-
malignant )tasks( contests-conflicts
struggles-ordeals ),
ὁ δέ μοι χαλεποὺς ἐπετέλλετ᾽ ἀέθλους.
ADEIMANTOS: good thing ( its not the end goal ) that matters,
as swirling voices ( we really believe ),
and were not sure yet if its irony,
but ( the way you respond only to me )
would momentarily become difficult,
MEDEIS: we( would )fear lest
( it )( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need,
you )( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ),
all( the )( dyad- )goddess( unerring )infallible said,
(300) δείδω μὴ δὴ πάντα θεὰ νημερτέα εἶπεν,
ADEIMANTOS: and ( my skin is electricity ) charged
with the polarity of poetries,
( we-turning ) languages of men
inside organic me,
PINDAR: for your( she- )SEASONS( being-fitting-times ),
τεαὶ γὰρ ὧραι
MEDEIS: she spoke( to-by-for )me in the sea,
ἥ μ᾽ ἔφατ᾽ ἐν πόντῳ,
ADEIMANTOS: aiming less for instability,
PINDAR: TURNING( -dancing- )ROUND( whirling-
plying )( winding-minding )under the subtle( -many-
colored-complex-dappled-embroidered-wily-unstable-
)notes of the lyre-( phorminx )-SONG —
ὑπὸ ποικιλοφόρμιγγος ἀοιδᾶς ἑλισσόμεναί
ADEIMANTOS: balancing the two of these,
bearing witness to his nostos,
MEDEIS: before( you )come( reach )( approach )
( supplicate )( the she- )fatherland( she )earth,
πρὶν πατρίδα γαῖαν ἱκέσθαι,
ADEIMANTOS: or coming home to his witnessing,
PINDAR: ( they-she )SENT me,
μ᾽ ἔπεμψαν
ADEIMANTOS: and ( its the journey ) we say OUT LOUD,
as we can barely hear herself,
over these hims,
MEDEIS: ( you would )FULFILL( have full measure of )
( you would feel pains )( he was feeling pains )
( feel pain, you )( dyad- )PAIN( sufferings, grief ),
ἄλγε᾽ ἀναπλήσειν:
ADEIMANTOS: dipping fingers
in the teacup,
PINDAR: ( as )WITNESS( o witness )( o guardian )
of the HIGHEST( loftiest )( proudest )
contests( struggles, tasks, conflicts, ORDEALS ),
ὑψηλοτάτων μάρτυρ᾽ ἀέθλων.
SOKRATES: ( we )i( being )( to-by-for )you,
ἐγώ σοι,
ADEIMANTOS: ( in a language )
we are learning as we go along,
( we hear the air crackling )
with some almighty agreements,
with some almighty friends,
MEDEIS: but now all of( she- )this
( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be )
( will be )( is )accomplished,
τὰ δὲ δὴ νῦν πάντα τελεῖται.
ADEIMANTOS: as the dog hears too,
PINDAR: but( of )guest-friends( XENION )
( strangers, hosts, foreigners )doing( FARING )WELL,
GOOD( brave, stout, faithful, well-bred )( men )
WAG the TAIL( show joyful-delight and fondness )
( fawn-upon )( pay-court-to )( greet )( gladden )
FORTHWITH( at once )( immediately )( on the spot )
( o drinker, take a drink! )
toward( the )SWEET( fresh, pleasant, deligtful )
MESSAGE( tidings-news-report-announcement-
messenger ),
ξείνων δ᾽ εὖ πρασσόντων ἔσαναν αὐτίκ᾽ ἀγγελίαν
ποτὶ γλυκεῖαν ἐσλοί.
ADEIMANTOS: whats the message, o Sokrates?
SOKRATES: ( o saying )( the saying )
( say, you! )they say( we say )
( the saying )
( the weight that falls on a mouse in a trap ),
εἶπον,
ADEIMANTOS: but whats that mousetrappy thing?
its always kind of showing up
but he leaves hooks concealed so far in
its ( unknown to almost everyone else )
its unknown even to him until
we unexpectedly stumble on the answer
( when your hand moves on paths )
when the mousetraps catch us,
MEDEIS: ( to-by-for )such clouds Zeus enwreathes
( crowns-around )( you are surrounded, enwreathed )
( the )wide( broad )sky( heavens ),
οἵοισιν νεφέεσσι περιστέφει οὐρανὸν εὐρὺν
Ζεύς,
PINDAR: but still,
[10] ἀλλ᾽,
ADEIMANTOS: as ( someone said )
who wasnt nobody,
MEDEIS: but( he )stirs up( troubles )( agitates )( throws
into disorder )( confusion )( and anarchy )( the )sea,
ἐτάραξε δὲ πόντον,
ADEIMANTOS: but hes not anarchist at all,
PINDAR: O CHILD of Kronos,
ὦ Κρόνου παῖ,
ADEIMANTOS: but not quite dyadic
enough for nobody,
MEDEIS: but( the )storm( whirl- )winds urge-on
( to-by-for )( rushing )( blowing-furiously )( of )winds of all sorts,
ἐπισπέρχουσι δ᾽ ἄελλαι
(305) παντοίων ἀνέμων.
ADEIMANTOS: yet we-being pharmakronik,
PINDAR: ( you )who( o VIPERS! )( you pour out )
( you )have-and-hold( Mount )Aetna,
ὃς Αἴτναν ἔχεις,
ADEIMANTOS: as he grabs me by
the ( horses ) heartstrings,
MEDEIS: now( to-by-for )me safe( sure, certain,
sound, alive and well )( would be )sheer
( utter )( high and steep )( lofty )( towering )destruction( ruin )( death ),
νῦν μοι σῶς αἰπὺς ὄλεθρος.
ADEIMANTOS: he cant help it, he cant resist,
somebody feels like the kind of dad
such as nobody wishes he could have had,
PINDAR: ( the )WINDY( airy )( rapid-rushing )
( stirred and filled by the wind )dropping-
WEIGHT( EIPON )( mouse-trap-song )
( of )strong( mighty )( o dyad- )hundred-
( HEKATO-KEPHALAS )-headed TYPHON,
ἶπον ἀνεμόεσσαν ἑκατογκεφάλα Τυφῶνος ὀβρίμου,
ADEIMANTOS: but both of them agree
and came to celebrate our victory lap,
with-in-lap-towering,
MEDEIS: thrice blessed( the )Danaans,
τρὶς μάκαρες Δαναοὶ
PINDAR: RECEIVE( the )Olympic-conqueror !
this merry-making( REVELRY )( carousal )
( procession )( parade )( ode )
by( aid )of the GRACES( Chariton ),
Οὐλυμπιονίκαν δέκευ
Χαρίτων ἕκατι τόνδε κῶμον,
MEDEIS: and( indeed )four times!
καὶ τετράκις,
ADEIMANTOS: and somehow somebody
he captures beauty
in that old reach for glory,
PINDAR: ( this )after the LONGEST time( long-
expected )( late? NEVER! )( most enduring )
( most in-the-end )( most coming-in-due-course )LIGHT
( o light! )( of )far-and-widely-reaching-POWERFUL EXCELLENCE.
χρονιώτατον φάος εὐρυσθενέων ἀρετᾶν.
ADEIMANTOS: and if we combine them,
SOKRATES: and if such as( he )
( we )come-into-being( are born,
produced, fall due, take-place, come-
to-pass )( you ),
ἂν οἷός τε γένωμαι,
ADEIMANTOS: we have to admit
somebodys ode
( makes me forget )
about my sorrows for a minute,
PINDAR: for( it )comes( attains-to )( reaches )( the )CHARIOT
( carriages )( shelters )( harbors )( vessels )
of PSAUMIS( victor in the MULE race ),
Ψαύμιος γὰρ ἵκει [20]
ὀχέων,
ADEIMANTOS: both hold me familiar
as ( weve allowed to be traced )
some underwater lines,
MEDEIS: who perished( died )then in wide( broad )Troy,
οἳ τότ᾽ ὄλοντο
Τροίῃ
PINDAR: who, ( being )WREATHED( and crowned )
( to-by-for the )OLIVE tree( of )Pisa,
ὅς, ἐλαίᾳ στεφανωθεὶς Πισάτιδι,
ADEIMANTOS: reminders of those
with whom we used to wish
that we could coexist,
MEDEIS: bringing grace( favor, gratitude )( gratification )
( pleasure, delight )( satisfaction )( thanks )
( to-by-for )( the )sons of Atreus,
ἐν εὐρείῃ χάριν Ἀτρεΐδῃσι φέροντες.
ADEIMANTOS: ( and we try to remember )
what it feels like to be seen
and celebrated,
PINDAR: ( LET LOOSE! )( would )stir up
( to call-forth )GLORY( kudos! )
( renown )( to-by-for )Kamarina,
κῦδος ὄρσαι
σπεύδει Καμαρίνᾳ.
ADEIMANTOS: but at least hes not always going on
about hekatombs anymore,
SOKRATES: ( we )would( will )try
( attempt, endeavor, experience )
to go-through( pass-through, complete, spread-
abroad, shoot-through, pass-through-and-reach,
recount ),
πειράσομαι διελθεῖν.
ADEIMANTOS: does he realize ( there are people watching )
when he says these things? nobodys relationship
with himself ( we )is( being ) his deep flaw,
we see him
( when we want to skip to the end ),
MEDEIS: as( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be )
would( that )( we- )i( -being )at least( had )died
and( indeed )( had )( driven-to )met( my )destiny,
ὡς δὴ ἐγώ γ᾽ ὄφελον θανέειν καὶ πότμον ἐπισπεῖν
ADEIMANTOS: whereas somebody brings this feeling
of ( little fires lighting up along the way )
and then he makes them HUGE,
he speaks to stadia,
PINDAR: may( the )GOD be JOYFUL-HEARTED
( goodly-phrenes )( mirthful, merry, taking pleasure,
gracious, kind, kindly, benevolent )
( to-by-for )( their )remaining( future )( hence-
forward )( hereafter )( further )PRAYERS
( vows, wishes, aspirations );
θεὸς εὔφρων
εἴη λοιπαῖς εὐχαῖς:
ADEIMANTOS: and nobody lets us relive
our worst moments, he just offers himself
with some strangers generosity, like
MEDEIS: ( to-by-for )the day when( to-by-for )me
the greatest multitude of Trojans cast( their )brass-tipped spears
around( about )( the )slain( perished )( Achilles )son of Peleus,
ἤματι τῷ ὅτε μοι πλεῖστοι χαλκήρεα δοῦρα
(310) Τρῶες ἐπέρριψαν περὶ Πηλεΐωνι θανόντι.
ADEIMANTOS: as somebody champions thumos,
our horses shiver to hear him speak,
PINDAR: since( you are approaching- and following-
upon )( to-by-for )( the dyad-word-song )
( WE )PRAISE( tell of )( approve )( commend )
him-her( who is )EXTREMELY( DYAD-SECRETLY! )even( INDEED )
AT HAND( ready )( prepared )( at once
and without hesitation )( ready-active-zealous )
( bold )( brought to fulfilment )( eager )
( to-by-for the )EDUCATION( nourishment,
food, provisions, forage, livelihood, nurture,
rearing, generation and keeping )( of )HORSES,
ἐπεί νιν αἰνέω μάλα μὲν
τροφαῖς ἑτοῖμον ἵππων,
ADEIMANTOS: as nobody fantasizes his own death,
MEDEIS: ( to-by-for )it( we would have received
A LOT )of funeral gifts,
τῷ κ᾽ ἔλαχον κτερέων,
ADEIMANTOS: somebody reminds us of being our best,
PINDAR: and REJOICING( o rejoicing ones! )
( to-by-for )ALL-RECEIVING XENIA( guest-
friendships and stranger-hospitalities ),
χαίροντά τε ξενίαις πανδόκοις
ADEIMANTOS: as nobody fantasizes about fame,
as part of fantasizing about his death,
such as this, our problematic man,
MEDEIS: and( indeed )( we would have taken )
( the )Achaians( would have )brought me
glory( kleos - fame, rumor, report ),
καί μευ κλέος ἦγον Ἀχαιοί:
ADEIMANTOS: whereas somebody makes the city-
soul ache
with possibility,
PINDAR: and( indeed )toward CITY-LOVING PEACE
( rest, quiet, silence, stillness ),
SELF-TURNING( tetrammenon )( to-by-for )CLEAR
( pure, spotless, free )THOUGHT
( judgment, intelligence, knowing, understanding,
opinion, resolution, purpose, resolve ),
καὶ πρὸς ἁσυχίαν φιλόπολιν καθαρᾷ γνώμᾳ τετραμμένον.
ADEIMANTOS: the possibility of somebody
or something, being some city
worth dying for,
SOKRATES: this( even )( indeed )therefore( we )
( o ways, o powers of song! )suppose
( forebode, presage, expect,
suspect, intend, believe )( the )all( o all! )
will agree( same-saying )( he would agree )
( she would agree )( you will agree )
( to-by-for )we
( she-dyad-confession )( to-by-for confession-she ),
τόδε μὲν οὖν οἶμαι πᾶς ἡμῖν ὁμολογήσει,
ADEIMANTOS: ( silently ) we side with nobody
almost all the time, even
when what he says is plainly wrong,
MEDEIS: but now( it had been )fated( me )
( to be )seized( captured )( taken )( slain )
( to-by-for )( a )wretched( sorry )( pitiful )
( contemptuous )death,
νῦν δέ λευγαλέῳ θανάτῳ εἵμαρτο ἁλῶναι.
HOMER: so there-and-then( dyad-he )speaking it —
ὣς ἄρα μιν εἰπόντ᾽
PINDAR: ( WE )( would-will )NOT STAIN
( you are not stained )( wet, moisten, soften, dye )
( the )WORD( to-by-for )FALSEHOOD,
οὐ ψεύδεϊ τέγξω λόγον: [30]
ADEIMANTOS: ( breathe ) we remind myself
as we realize what we witness,
HOMER: ( the )GREAT WAVE( billowing, swelling,
heaving, flood )( PREGNANCY-fetus-sprout )DROVE-
( propelled-thrusted-struck )-DOWN( against-
through )( from the )HIGHEST( topmost-extremity
)( a )TERRIBLE( dreadful, wondrous, awful,
clever )RUSHING-( hastening,
speeding )-against,
ἔλασεν μέγα κῦμα κατ᾽ ἄκρης
δεινὸν ἐπεσσύμενον,
ADEIMANTOS: somebody versus nobody
would ignite
to tame the tempest,
PINDAR: ( o )SHE-TRIAL( we drive-through )( the crucial
experiment )( trial )( proof )( perseverance )
( to-by-for )YOU( let me tell you )( would be )
( the )ELENCHOS( argument )( disproof,
refutation, cross-examination, testing,
scrutiny, trial, reproach, blame,
etc )( of )MORTAL MEN,
διάπειρά τοι βροτῶν ἔλεγχος:
ADEIMANTOS: what does nobody fight for,
his craft?
HOMER: but( it )WHIRLED( he raised the battle-cry )
( he raised a lament )( he cried loudly )AROUND
( about )( the SHE- )raft( hand-to-hand )
( in close combat ),
περὶ δὲ σχεδίην ἐλέλιξε.
ADEIMANTOS: and somebody for what,
the reinstatement of whats right?
PINDAR: ( the )SHE-DYAD( who )UNBOUND
( unfastened, unyoked, released, delivered,
resolved, destroyed, annulled )the CHILD
( Erginos? )of Klumenos from( the )DISHONOR
( disgrace )( derision )( deprivation
of civil rights )( of the )Lemnian women,
ἅπερ Κλυμένοιο παῖδα
Λαμνιάδων γυναικῶν ἔλυσεν ἐξ ἀτιμίας.
ADEIMANTOS: so different, yet
we are burning with them both,
and ( soon we are wildfire ) listening
to their voices in myself resolving,
SOKRATES: such( a )nature( growth-origin,
outward-form, constitution-temperament,
character, originating-power, elementary-
substance, birth )and( indeed )
she-having-and-holding( he-)all as much
( she-dyad )as we enjoined( commanded,
prescribed, posted, appointed )just-now,
τοιαύτην φύσιν καὶ πάντα ἔχουσαν ὅσα προσετάξαμεν νυνδή,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and then the moment is over )
and nobody loses, but he does it to himself,
HOMER: but FAR-off from( the SHE- )raft
( close-quarters )( hand-to-hand combat )( spur
of the moment )( he- )HIMSELF hurled
( let fall, self-threw )( lost the erect position )
( fell in battle )( SUNK ),
(315) τῆλε δ᾽ ἀπὸ σχεδίης αὐτὸς πέσε,
ADEIMANTOS: whereas theres something
strong-humble, humbling, common-strong,
about somebody, a peoples man,
PINDAR: but CONQUERING( winning )
( the )race( COURSE )( of victories )
in bronze( copper coins )armor,
χαλκέοισι δ᾽ ἐν ἔντεσι νικῶν δρόμον
ADEIMANTOS: then again,
what wouldnt nobody sacrifice
of his own self?
HOMER: but( it )sent-forth( threw-hurled-launched-
let-fly )( let fall a word )( uttered in speech )
( let go )( surrendered )( the )rudder out( from his )hands,
πηδάλιον δὲ
ἐκ χειρῶν προέηκε:
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed,
PINDAR: ( he )said( to-by-for )Hupsipule( high-and-lofty passage ),
ἔειπεν Ὑψιπυλείᾳ
ADEIMANTOS: high versus middle?
HOMER: but( the )MIDDLE( to-by-for)itself
( of the )MAST — broke( shivered )
( the SHE- )terrible( fearsome, marvelous,
clever, wondrous )( of )mixing winds
( she )coming( -and-going )HURRICANE,
μέσον δέ οἱ ἱστὸν ἔαξεν
δεινὴ μισγομένων ἀνέμων ἐλθοῦσα θύελλα,
ADEIMANTOS: o high versus middle
versus the HURRICANE they create,
PINDAR: after going( and coming )
( to the )GARLAND( crown )( wreath ),
μετὰ στέφανον ἰών:
ADEIMANTOS: the one they live for,
HOMER: but FAR-OFF( we were SOWING )
( they were sowing )( sow, you )( o sowing )
( sowing )( the sowing )( the )sail( clothing )
( wraps )( shroud )and( indeed )( the )yard-arm
( were )flung-into( FALL, you )( ENTER into )
( come upon )( STRIKE )( the )SEA,
τηλοῦ δὲ σπεῖρον καὶ ἐπίκριον ἔμπεσε πόντῳ.
ADEIMANTOS: if ( a sense of security )
maybe ( we tell myself ) would
call nobody home,
SOKRATES: if finally( having reached its end,
finished, complete, perfect, full-grown,
accomplished thoroughly, and )about to become
( be born, come-into-being )
philosophos( wisdom-love ),
εἰ τελέως (491β) μέλλοι φιλόσοφος γενέσθαι,
ADEIMANTOS: ( until next time ) something
nobody-like slips out,
HOMER: but there-and-then UNDERWATER( she )put him,
( for a )LONGGG time,
τὸν δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ὑπόβρυχα θῆκε πολὺν χρόνον,
ADEIMANTOS: she-being a strong
container for nobodys ways,
HUPSIPULE: this( WE )i( BEING )( to-by-for )SWIFTNESS( quickness )( speed ),
‘ οὗτος ἐγὼ ταχυτᾶτι:
ADEIMANTOS: but neither is nobody spotless
nor is the poet altogether so,
it may be ( by something small )
but it irks me how they blame her,
she-being Kalupso,
HOMER: nor( was he )able very( dyad-underwater-
secretly )quickly( to )hold-up( lift-up, surface )
( from )under( the )great wave( swelling-
billowing-surge )( pregnancy )( of )( the SHE- )ATTACK;
for( the )clothes there-and-then( were )OPPRESSING
( and depressing )( him ),
the( SHE-DYAD )( to-by-for )itself( o passage!
o resource! )( she )GAVE( give, you! )
through( we would-will HIDE and CONCEAL )
( you hide and cover )Kalupso,
οὐδ᾽ ἐδυνάσθη
(320) αἶψα μάλ᾽ ἀνσχεθέειν μεγάλου ὑπὸ κύματος ὁρμῆς:
εἵματα γάρ ῥ᾽ ἐβάρυνε, τά οἱ πόρε δῖα Καλυψώ.
ADEIMANTOS: but even nobody
with his actions says ( fuck the end goal ),
HOMER: but after a longgg time( LATE? )( NEVER )
( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )( god-needed-
bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be )
there-and-then( he )came up,
ὀψὲ δὲ δή ῥ᾽ ἀνέδυ,
ADEIMANTOS: but when she delivers his medicine,
HUPSIPULE: but HANDS and( indeed )HEART( being )EQUAL( evenly )( alike ),
χεῖρες δὲ καὶ ἦτορ ἴσον.
ADEIMANTOS: he spits it out,
and again the poet takes his side,
( shewaters a lil preachy for them? )
HOMER: but( from her )mouth( she )SPIT-OUT
( the )( SHE- )bitter( sharp, keen, piercing, acute,
pungent, mean! )( SHE- )sea-water( BRINE ),
( she )which( to-by-for )itself( she- )much
from( the she- )head( was )gushing( gurgling,
murmuring, babbling, trickling, flowing fitfully, or in drops . . . )
στόματος δ᾽ ἐξέπτυσεν ἅλμην
πικρήν, ἥ οἱ πολλὴ ἀπὸ κρατὸς κελάρυζεν.
ADEIMANTOS: to walk the slight edge
between nobody, and somebody,
( we-being HUPSIPULE ) and the poet too,
showing-through the best of each,
SOKRATES: rarely( oligakis-slightly )born
among human beings
( to grow, wax, spring-up, spring-forth,
begotten, produced ),
and(indeed)oligas(very-slight-few),
ὀλιγάκις ἐν ἀνθρώποις φύεσθαι καὶ ὀλίγας.
HUPSIPULE: but( it )GROWS,
[40] φύονται δὲ
ADEIMANTOS: but she has nature
and he has his memory ( of her ),
HOMER: but still not even like( he was )forgetting
( the she- )raft( hand-to-hand )( close combat ),
roundly wearing-out( distressed, afflicted, exhausted,
born-hard-upon, reduced to extremity,
being-rubbed-hard, with troubles ),
ἀλλ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ὣς σχεδίης ἐπελήθετο, τειρόμενός περ,
ADEIMANTOS: and having been accustomed
to going and coming between them,
as butterfly men, even just for fun,
even with our ( eyes closed ),
HUPSIPULE: and( indeed )( you would swim )
( you would spin )( you would pile up )
( in heaps )( and for next year ),
SHE-GRAYNESS( gray-grizzled-grizlies )
( of hair )OFTEN( grows )in YOUNG MEN,
καὶ νέοις ἐν ἀνδράσιν
πολιαὶ θαμὰ
ADEIMANTOS: and doesnt he have a habit
of providing commentary
( often in the form of a question )
( we werent going to ask for ) ?
to which we reply ( enjoy the journey ),
SOKRATES: ( either )or( else-otherwise )( eh! )( do )nt( you )suppose?
ἢ οὐκ οἴει;
ADEIMANTOS: and even in her ( fighting sleep )
( like neither nobody nor somebody )
she-being constant revolutionary,
HUPSIPULE: and( indeed )beside( towards )( contrary
to )( against )( beyond )that
( of the )AGE( time of life )( generation )( prime ),
καὶ παρὰ τὸν ἁλικίας
ADEIMANTOS: but ( given ) that nobody
makes an excellent lover,
HOMER: but still rushing-in-pursuit( making a dash )
( passively )in-through( the )waves( billowing-
swelling-pregnancies )( he )received( took hold )( of )herself,
(325) ἀλλὰ μεθορμηθεὶς ἐνὶ κύμασιν ἐλλάβετ᾽ αὐτῆς,
ADEIMANTOS: but when it comes to problems
where we might say ( a good sleep wont fix this )
( anything other than a tempest-tantrum ),
his response seems pretty strong,
HOMER: but in( her )middle( he )sat( and huddled- )down,
ἐν μέσσῃ δὲ καθῖζε
HUPSIPULE: ( contrary to what at )( the )TIME seeming-likely,
ἐοικότα χρόνον.’
ADEIMANTOS: nobody survives,
HOMER: avoiding deaths end,
τέλος θανάτου ἀλεείνων.
ADEIMANTOS: yet hes also like a baby,
who always wants back into the storm,
who just likes getting spun around.
nobody may not be a place to live,
but its his energy that drives us on,
when were on the move.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
Odyssey V.299-326, XI.613-626
Pindar Olympian 4
VIII.xxi. holding ( nobodys ) lightness ( likeness )
ADEIMANTOS: o miserable me.
( on a liferaft in the middle of ocean )
to row these oars in such obscurity,
low, mean, and disengaging, thankless work.
maybe wed all have rather died at Troy.
what kind of man would ever choose this life?
SOKRATES: and( indeed )everywhere( in-every-part )upon all( men )
( they )fasten( attach )( bestow upon )( grant )
( to-by-for )philosophy( wisdom-love )
( the )belief( reputation-opinion )( expectation-glory )
( seeming )( o seeming )( they seem)
of the sort which( you )say,
πανταχῇ καὶ ἐπὶ πάντας δόξαν οἵαν λέγεις φιλοσοφίᾳ προσῆψαν.
ADEIMANTOS: o so true. and in addition to that,
she seems to demand ( holding myself back )
from things that seem most selfie to myself.
when what we say feels strange for me to say.
to hold me back from what, from my own speech?
from holding back itself? and so perplexed.
from ( fighting the familiar dark )? o goddess,
what would the familiar be, some shadow-me?
she holds me back from fighting — who or what?
HERA: o some( not quite nobody )nothing,
( he )( or she )( or things )needy( wanting )( lacking )
( being without )( not having )( falling short of )
( stinted in the matter of )( inferior to )( too weak for )
the( she )might( strength-force-power )of that( he ),
μηδέν τι βίην ἐπιδευέα κείνου:
ADEIMANTOS: o goddess shade ( sighs ) at leat its not a curse . . .
but still we wonder, which-he she means.
which he truly holds the might of she?
and barely does the thought occur to me,
of him in his cell, on that appointed day,
before ( the corners of my mouth ) tremble,
and soon my eyes melt into full-on weeping.
and youd laugh to see me its so pitiful.
but famously, this one doesnt shed a tear.
its not that easy for me ( holding something in ),
SAILORS: but which( things )?
τίνας δέ,
SOKRATES: whoa whoa whoa ( woah ).
( holding it together ) like a nobody
isnt the same as holding something in.
such as nobody often cries and complains.
but releasing lamentation without blame,
and slightly ( turning upwards ) at the end,
as almost self-misdirection,
SAILORS: he was saying,
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: so that when its time, its effortless again
to draw the bow or lyre with steady hands,
and ( like were not the one ) suffering our pain.
and when ( despite the hurdles ) and the games,
SAILORS: ( you )speak the destructions( ruins, passings-
away, deaths, corruptions ),
τὰς διαφθορὰς λέγεις;
SOKRATES: to speak ( despite the hurt ) not as somebody
( who needs holding ) but as Odysseus might,
when hes already at home in her arms.
ADEIMANTOS: ( whose arms, Poseidons seas or Penelopes? )
SOKRATES: or if it helps you bear our suffering,
come dream of being held right here in ours.
and lets go back and translate every time
Odysseus feels sorry for himself, together.
Nobody mourns his destiny a lot,
ADEIMANTOS: and makes a spectacle of himself too.
we love that part, when hes tossed by the waves.
( looks around at the calm seas ) ( gets to work )
ok, lets let Odysseus be wailing-through —
MEDEIS: O( to-by-for )me( we )ego( being )cowardly( vile,
worthless, lowborn, mean, afraid, miserable, wretched, poor ),
what( someone )now( to-by-for )me longest-lasting( would be )born?
ὤ μοι ἐγὼ δειλός, τί νύ μοι μήκιστα γένηται;
ADEIMANTOS: o, hm. someone now . . . me = somebody?
wait. him? or. what . . . you? ( he sits puzzling-
out for an hour or two ) ( before announcing )
o nobodys, o somebodys, o Sokrates.
but maybe this is what the rowings for.
we seem to be, until now, an open question.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
Odyssey V.300, XI.613-626
VIII.xx. silken-light ( good at math ) heart-music
ADEIMANTOS: and our serious work
would be to keep her safe,
SOKRATES: as( she is )utterly destroyed in many,
ὡς διόλλυται ἐν πολλοῖς,
ADEIMANTOS: evidently.
but as ( youre in bed already )
our dreaming seems an active sleep
( to determine compatibility )
( singles inferno for meta-poetic we )
then does it end with you and me?
SOKRATES: but something( someone )small escapes
( acquitted, out, you flee ),
σμικρὸν δέ τι ἐκφεύγει,
ADEIMANTOS: by pollination or some kind of aerial seed,
( we guess its how these shes grew me )
or they could be the ( simple formulas )
for our calculator. she makes a kind of logic
( but we try not to hurry ) in order to find,
SOKRATES: ( those )which
( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ),
οὓς δὴ
ADEIMANTOS: she being who it looks like
as intelligence withdraws from arms races.
so youd better believe she treats herself well,
( herself given manicures and pedicures,
herself taken crystal baths in pastel oceans,
wherein her pearlescent bubbles ) the foam
has ample time ( the sea ) ( we-are-beingly ) really
( the measure of her own motion )
( we-time ) o-clock,
herself-care,
SOKRATES: and( indeed )not useless
( toilsome, grievous, toxic, malicious,
good-for-nothing waste ),
καὶ οὐ πονηρούς,
ADEIMANTOS: ( but no outcome we form )
apart from this-me born ( to-by-for ) her
( to caress every curve ) her goddess curves
( Hera, Gaia, all of hers ) apart from Zeus.
and our service ( to-by-for ) unserviceable she,
SOKRATES: but( they beauty- )call
( they will beauty-call )( to-by-for )( beauty-callings )
useless( unprofitable, unserviceable,
irrelevant, obsolete ),
ἀχρήστους δὲ καλοῦσι:
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed ( we are in my favour )
wearing only ( the sweet scent of raspberry )
( ylang-ylang, vanilla, lavender & patchouli )
( torn basil and tomato and thyme )
( oops was getting hungry )
what more could you want than that?
SOKRATES: and( indeed )after that
back again( bow wow )
the( shes )imitating( representing, portraying,
mimicking, expressing )this( she ),
καὶ μετὰ (491α) τοῦτο αὖ τὰς μιμουμένας ταύτην
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed this-she ( holds
the memory of summer ) somehow
in her animal sounds, as by the dog,
the butterfly, et cetera
( but then again ) what more?
SOKRATES: and( indeed )establishing( setting-down,
instituting )( themselves )( in )the pursuit
( business-practice-custom )( of )herself,
καὶ εἰς τὸ ἐπιτήδευμα καθισταμένας αὐτῆς,
ADEIMANTOS: and if we would ever be
at home ( on my skin ) then how?
SOKRATES: ( of )what sorts( of o )natures
( growths, births, origins )we-being
( to-by-for o )we-being
( you blow and puff )( you would-will bring-forth )
( you would-will flee, escape, fly )( of cool )
( contemplating through the cool of night )souls
( living beings, spirits, ghosts, selves, sources-of-life ),
( o refreshing in the shade )( refreshing )( the refreshing
in the shade )( o making-alive )( making-alive )
( they were making-alive )( we are making-alive )
( to make-alive )( the making-alive ),
οἷαι οὖσαι φύσεις ψυχῶν
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed she being ( silken ) ( and slippery )
and too ( alive ) too ( femme ) for hands to grasp.
from that mistrial, which theys would conclude
( hint - ) ( not the most measured ones )
we never were good at math?
SOKRATES: and( indeed )( who )( arriving-at,
coming-to, approaching )( a )pursuit( business-
practice )in( the )not( held as )worthy( of )
( and )( lordly-kingly )( and )larger
( greater )than them( he-she-it )selves,
εἰς ἀνάξιον καὶ μεῖζον ἑαυτῶν ἀφικνούμεναι ἐπιτήδευμα,
ADEIMANTOS: ( yet ) ( he practices letting her approach him )
so in these ( there is a lightness ) like laughter,
these letting-go, these letting-play, these letting-be,
( as we dive under blankets ) to express her-
SOKRATES: ( shes who )in-many-ways( would
be )( in error )making-false-notes
( offending music ),
πολλαχῇ πλημμελοῦσαι,
ADEIMANTOS: yet still shes cool ( cool as the river ravine,
yet shes who will in many ways say, whoopsie,
yet her parts she be concealing from herself.
yet when we exhale ) and you breathe me in
( our currents would make music ) under my skin,
( as she would balance ) ( to-by-for ) her warming heart.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Odyssey XI.613-626
Republic VI
VIII.xix. beyond the frame ( wrong direction ) of the butterfly sanctuary
( beyond the frame + wrong direction + unfin + good at math )
ADEIMANTOS: O beloved Sokrates, remind me again.
what was my purpose?
SOKRATES: her-remembrance,
μνήμη:
ADEIMANTOS: for whom ( we brace myself ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )of your laying( self )hold,
καὶ σοῦ ἐπιλαβομένου
ADEIMANTOS: she for whom ( we travel
in the wrong direction ) from myself,
as if we could insist
SOKRATES: that( even the )all( o all )will be( forced )
compelled to agree-with( same-saying )
( to-by-for )( that )which( we )were saying,
ὅτι πᾶς μὲν ἀναγκασθήσεται (490δ) ὁμολογεῖν οἷς λέγομεν,
ADEIMANTOS: but ( the distance between us greater ) grows
when we harden ( for the question
that never comes ),
SOKRATES: but( when )letting-be( suffering, permitting,
giving-up, letting-alone, letting-lie, and letting-go )
( you let-go )( o he-letting-go )( her-letting-go )the words
( speeches-accounts-reckonings-relations-correspondences-
proportions-explanations-arguments-thinkings-reasonings-
reflections-narratives-rumors-discussions-debates-
deliberations-dialogues-utterances-oracles-
assertions-expressions-grounds ),
ἐάσας δὲ τοὺς λόγους,
ADEIMANTOS: we put my finger in the cup
( and find out the answer )
regardless of my will
( yet we feel closer to you )
yet closer to whom?
SOKRATES: ( o )looking-steadfastly( paying-attention )
( look-steadfastly, you, in- )to the( him )selves
around( about )the( one-he )logos( speech-account-relation )of them,
εἰς αὐτοὺς ἀποβλέψας περὶ ὧν ὁ λόγος,
ADEIMANTOS: and unsure which self would be him,
what if ( we are shaped like a question )
and we would supply familiar features
( in this place of unfamiliar faces )
for him to recognize himself?
SOKRATES: ( he )would say( the grey would affirm )
to see of selves( on the one hand )
the useless( unprofitable, unservicable )( ones),
φαίη ὁρᾶν αὐτῶν τοὺς μὲν ἀχρήστους,
ADEIMANTOS: and what a time wed have
in contemplation of our uselessness.
but ( what if we want your mind )
do we mean my mind or whose?
( where we can be anyone )
and even hims of sundry use?
SOKRATES: but( on the other hand )( to see if )
the many evil( bad-uglies )
( would be )( she )whole-evil( bad-ugly-shame ),
( they sprinkle )( o sprinkling )( barley-groats
on medicinal wine )( the sprinkling )( the sprinklings ),
τοὺς δὲ πολλοὺς κακοὺς πᾶσαν κακίαν,
ADEIMANTOS: and ( wandering ) around my dreams,
my imagination, my day-to-day,
we might put ( sprinkles! )
on ( anything ) thats thrown-across
or -through ( dia - ballein ),
SOKRATES: ( we, o )looking-upon( inspecting, observing,
carefully, taking-care, visiting, like visiting the sick,
considering, reflecting, meditating on )the cause
( of )the slander( thrown-through )( false-accusation-
prejudice-against ),
upon this( he-it )now( we have become )been born,
τῆς διαβολῆς τὴν αἰτίαν ἐπισκοποῦντες ἐπὶ τούτῳ νῦν γεγόναμεν,
ADEIMANTOS: upon . . . this-which ? o,
this one ( he-it ) who comes and goes
( here on my bare thighs ) ( guilty as charged )
leaving butterfly ( pòò ) like
love letters to the nectarine,
SOKRATES: ( who, which, what )why
( o drinkers, o longing ones, o yearning ones,
are you flying hither-thither,
o wine-tasting-drinking )( would be )
the many( o the many )bads
( evils-uglies-sicknesses-shames ) ( ? )
τί ποθ᾽ οἱ πολλοὶ κακοί,
ADEIMANTOS: maybe when we come and go
to that place ( where your hands cant be )
( and take a sip ) and leave a sign
thats when ( we feel closer to you ),
and closer to her whom we remember,
SOKRATES: and( indeed )on account of this —
( o dyad-god )( it was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( it was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ) —
back again weve taken-up the nature( growth-origin )
of the truly( unconcealedly )wisdom-lovers,
καὶ τούτου δὴ ἕνεκα πάλιν ἀνειλήφαμεν
τὴν τῶν ἀληθῶς φιλοσόφων φύσιν
ADEIMANTOS: like the butterfly men,
those ( hes ) who come and go to such as these,
and drinking nectar where my feet cant go.
and ( what if we want your mind ) also
( as the mind of me or any he ) wandering
around the outermost-edges, where experience
and even ( words escape me ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )we defined( a boundary,
determining and laying out, our horizon )out-of necessity,
καὶ ἐξ ἀνάγκης ὡρισάμεθα.(490ε)
HERA: hear( of )me now, o Earths( Gaia )
and( indeed )the Sky( Ouranos )broad-from-above,
and o Titan gods, dwelling( to-by-for )you under-
earth( chthon ), around mighty Tartaros,
out-of-whom( be )men and gods,
κέκλυτε νῦν μευ, Γαῖα καὶ Οὐρανὸς εὐρὺς ὕπερθεν
Τιτῆνές τε θεοί, τοὶ ὑπὸ χθονὶ ναιετάοντες
Τάρταρον ἀμφὶ μέγαν, τῶν ἒξ ἄνδρες τε θεοί τε:
SAILORS: ( we )is( are ) ( ! )
ἔστιν,
SOKRATES: so we hypothesize our whole.
( but we cant escape sleep ) together,
which leaves me ( wondering ) about you,
SAILORS: he was saying,
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: but knowing that neither do we know
( what the palm of your hand ) would have-and-hold,
for whom ( these lines will remain ) as parts,
SAILORS: these(shes),
ταῦτα.
SOKRATES: nor do we know what you ( will find
beyond the frame ) of my lived experience,
thats why these-shes we make would be
un-we ( unfin ) until finished by her-yous,
HERA: ( o )all selves, now hear me, and( indeed )give
( of me a )child
apart( away, aloof )from Zeus,
αὐτοὶ νῦν μευ πάντες ἀκούσατε καὶ δότε παῖδα
νόσφι Διός,
SOKRATES: of this-she
( o dyad-god )( she was binding)( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )
( need, you )( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ),
ταύτης δή,
ADEIMANTOS: fully dyadic ( goddess ) poetry . . .
( using the golden calculator we become )
the calculator we turn me into?
( we calculate probabilities ) and then . . .
would ( we brace myself ) around
open meadows of indeterminacy?
SOKRATES: but( if )( they are )( he is )
( we are )saying( we )ego( being ),
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
ADEIMANTOS: we being free to grow and move
until ( possibilities whirlpool in my head )
as her primordial stew of productivity . . .
but would that mean ( the question never comes ),
SOKRATES: of the( she-nature )( growth-birth-
origin-form-character-substance-dyad )
( it was binding )( it was needful )
( need, you )( bind, you )
must be,
to observe( behold, gaze-at, contemplate )
the destructions( ruins, passings-away, deaths,
corruptions )( of )the( she )nature,
τῆς φύσεως δεῖ θεάσασθαι τὰς φθοράς,
ADEIMANTOS: so not as question, but as necessity . . .
on the one hand ( we answer it anyway ),
as witness to his scatological remains,
as dipped fingers in my pudding cup ( amen ),
risking but slight redness to my dainty skin,
as follies, soap operas, unicorn-porn, born
with ( sprinkles! ) blizzarded-in from you and you,
like cookies starry night with richest cream,
to tempt and tame the little butterbeasts
until the airs astir with fluttering wings,
in-palms-holding his heartbeats memory,
perchance, before releasing me unto herself —
o glorious pollination! or on the other hand,
where re-enactment might make her unsafe,
( we list characteristics ) as for cased specimens:
the Papilionidae, Pieridae, Nymphalidae,
Lycaenidae, Hesperiidae of her corruptions.
and every butterfly would be a mask —
our temple-dwelling her sanctuary inviolable.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Odyssey XI.613-626
Republic VI
VIII.xv. ( prayer ) head full of words ( shared thoughts ) of an unchained melody
ADEIMANTOS: friend Pan, and as many other we-beings as come
by this-she-here. grant me to be born by beauty
from within. but as many as we hold without,
may these, by me, be friends to things within.
so may these be my best attempts to mend
the parts of us available to me.
by me, may parts be fine for how they seem.
as circles, black or white, or sticks, or hearts,
or scat from butterfly, parts do not judge.
when shark, grant that we not slice-off my fin.
without which we cant swim nor steer nor stay
alive, removing which unholds me from myself.
and when we see me, fin-less, sink and die
and helpless at the bottom of the sea,
me-un-survived, yet would these mean no harm.
do we still need something else, Sokrates?
SOKRATES: ( and indeed )would come-to-know( perceive,
know by reflection, by observation, discern, distinguish,
recognize )and( indeed )truly( unconcealedly )
would( living )be alive,
γνοίη τε καὶ ἀληθῶς ζῴη
ADEIMANTOS: so would we be delivered from our sentences.
and to that end, grant me a ( head full of words )
that ( flood in ) from without, so wed be kept afloat
at favorable proportions to her wind,
SOKRATES: and( indeed )would be nurtured( reared, brought-up,
bringing-forth, maintained, supported, educated )
( thickening-curdled-congealed ),
καὶ τρέφοιτο
ADEIMANTOS: so that we may, through sound experience,
across the seas ( in all the languages ),
discover and recover kubernesis ( steering art ).
and may there be ( silly little things ) aswim
to keep us generously entertained,
SOKRATES: and( indeed )thus would cease
the labor-pangs( throes of childbirth ),
καὶ οὕτω λήγοι ὠδῖνος,
ADEIMANTOS: be our perfection ( not important ).
but not until ( a soup of sounds and phrases ) out,
of our many names and voices carried from
afar, meet in some kind of harmony,
SOKRATES: but not until( that ),
πρὶν δ᾽ οὔ;
HERAKLES: ( even indeed )( we )being a child
( slave, servant )of Zeus of Kronos,
Ζηνὸς μὲν πάϊς ἦα Κρονίονος,
SAILORS: and( three-hundred )as such,
ὡς οἷόν τ᾽,
SOKRATES: would we cease ( finding connections ) and binding-needs-
we-beingly vessels adrift, to make
and do ( the most important ) work,
SAILORS: ( he )was saying,
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: to demonstrate ( opening doors ) between,
and ( portraying the lightness ) and resilience of things
such as lyres, rainbows, longbows, and vessels,
SAILORS: ( the )most-measured( things ),
μετριώτατα.
SOKRATES: and still partaking in ( the stream ) of Ocean,
we being neither stranded, nor alone, but sheltered by
these ship-like temples ( of shared rooms ) abroad
and in uncharted territories,
HERA: but still, ( o she-being ), ( o she-dyad )being far
( in a far country and in after-times )away from you,
( we will )( meta-be )among( go-between )( go-in-quest-of )
( approach )( pursue-with-vengeance )( and have a share in,
go among, go seek, in quest of, a claim )to immortal gods,
ἀλλ᾽ ἀπὸ σεῖο
(330) τηλόθ᾽ ἐοῦσα θεοῖσι μετέσσομαι ἀθανάτοισιν.
SAILORS: to hate,
μισεῖν,
SOKRATES: neither the unknown, nor even the far from me,
nor indeed the strange, but always ( flowing two ways )
to trust and let ( the closeness ) of her heart
be sought and gathered by our speaking-through,
SAILORS: ( he )was saying,
ἔφη.
SOKRATES: so that we may be ( connecting the dots )
to give birth in and by the beautiful
to life, to animals, to human beings,
and earths in blessed commonwealth ( of shared thoughts ).
ALL: for common are the shes of friends, by which
we go and come, unchained and sailing again.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
VIII.xii. words flowing ( in forces of orchids ) already there
ADEIMANTOS: ( spellcasting gestures )
( yes, prince of pamponeros )
( yes, deddy thoroughly-depraved )
no question of necessity ( no wishy-washy )
( shoot-him-through these hes )
by their depravity ( stun rays )
( of )-through-( to me! )-three-( these )
( sprinkles! ) ( sprinkles! ) ( sprinkles! )
how be ( the many ) me?
SOKRATES: but of the( dyad )depravity of the many
the necessity( force-constraint )
( do )( you )wish
the( one )after this( one )
( we )( would )go-through( complete )( shoot through )( recount )( reach )( arrive at )
( the one after this one )
( you wish, eh? )
( the necessity-force-constraint )
( of the dyad-depravity of the many ) ( ? )
τῆς δὲ τῶν πολλῶν πονηρίας τὴν ἀνάγκην βούλει τὸ μετὰ τοῦτο διέλθωμεν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( we-being-born he-thoroughly-depraved
through the dyad-depravity of our parts, a wish-
fulfilling-scratch by necessity, fate-boggle )
( our ships a craft of countless witches stones )
( creaking in the textual bones of humanity )
( which plainly doesnt see his insides at all )
( plainer ) the words flowing into my mind
( never actually settle into ) the version
of me you see ( but shoot through by force ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )that not even( is )philosophy
( wisdom-love )( the )cause( guilty )( responsible for )this,
καὶ ὅτι οὐδὲ τούτου φιλοσοφία αἰτία,
ADEIMANTOS: ( she doesnt make his mess ) ( but he
has this ambition ) ( far sights ability )
( to fill-out mens potentiality ) ( yet
with her wholesome ),
SOKRATES: if( we would be )able,
( to make his way into another place or country,
to plunge into the lap of Ocean, beneath the earth,
to dive into the clouds, behind the shield of Achilles,
to get into the armor, fill it out, come over or upon,
to sink into the setting star, living retirement ),
(489ε) ἂν δυνώμεθα,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and the pudding-cup
for his toddler spoon )
being-at-work-we-being-me,
SOKRATES: ( we would ) try ( test ) ( make an attempt ) ( fafo )
to show ( point out ) ( make known ) ( prove ) ( exhibit ),
( be showing, proving, exhibit, you ),
πειραθῶμεν δεῖξαι;
ADEIMANTOS: to translate himself.
( but as much as he comes through,
hes holding back ) a great deal more.
( so that neither would she be seized ),
HERA: nor will(would)we(offer ourselves for sale)
come-and-go to bed
(to-by-for)you;
οὐδέ τοι εἰς εὐνὴν πωλήσομαι,
SAILORS: exceedingly( even-indeed )therefore.
πάνυ μὲν οὖν.
MEDEIS: but that( one )recognized( he-dyad )me,
since( youre following the dyad-word-song,
and he )saw( to-by-for the )eyes,
ἔγνω δ᾽ αὖτ᾽ ἔμ᾽ ἐκεῖνος, ἐπεὶ ἴδεν ὀφθαλμοῖσιν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( would you hear she was ) terrified
( ultra-violet ) ( spectral catalyst ) ( infra-pink )
( to ) stir whats already there ( if lightning )
( then thunder ) ( reverse rainbow ) ( tense family ) ?
SOKRATES: ( we )( would )hear( o dyad-Zeus )( he was binding )
( bind, you )( Zeus-needed-bound )( he was in-need )
( need, you )( the dyad-Zeus )( indeed )must( be ),
ἀκούωμεν δὴ
ADEIMANTOS: ( and ) filtering words too intense ( to set down )
( the needful-binding causes ) tiny sparks lighting
( in underground tunnels ) a certain kind of torch,
( as three winters would start the heartbeat of spring ),
( so he sets bait ) ( in hymns ) ( for Hekates hearing ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )( we)remembering
( would )gather( speak )( pick up stones for building )( choose )
( count )( tell )( recount )( tell over )( call )from there,
καὶ λέγωμεν ἐκεῖθεν ἀναμνησθέντες,
ADEIMANTOS: and we weave memories of orchids ( from
imprisonment ) to be allowed out in the world
( to grow even ) in the dullness of mere survival,
( through concrete walls to smuggle dynamite )
in its fullness ( through his other-wise numb-skull ),
SOKRATES: whence( we were )going-through( roaming-
about )the nature( phusis-origin-growth )
of the sort which necessity( force-constraint )
will( we-being )being,
to grow( produce )the beautiful and( the )good( man ),
ὅθεν διῇμεν τὴν φύσιν οἷον ἀνάγκη
φῦναι τὸν καλόν τε κἀγαθὸν (490α) ἐσόμενον.
ADEIMANTOS: but he would shift around our context ( to tune
the instrument ) like it would change the truth,
( adjusting stretch and pull and cycling back
when ) repeated cycles falling out of rhythm
( would threaten inter-weaving chemistry ),
SOKRATES: but he( was leading-guiding )would lead-
and-guide( to-by-for himself ),
ἡγεῖτο δ᾽ αὐτῷ,
ADEIMANTOS: ( their inter-bonding alchemy ) ( to sail )
( which demands constantly ) swallowing questions
( as the humpback swallows middle-sea ), ( so ) new
connections forming ( and heres our ambergris )
we cultivate ( his central organ ) our thought,
( and second-selves-ourselving into speech ),
SOKRATES: if ( o dyad-ego ) ( he would flow )
( to-by-for ) nous ( thought ( we-being ) mind )
( o vipers ) ( you ) have-and-hold
( you were pouring ) ( vipers ),
εἰ νῷ ἔχεις,
ADEIMANTOS: times three ( so that even when one brews
for ) censoring sentences ( hes still polishing her cheeks )
( and her underlying blushes ) colouring their way through,
SOKRATES: o former( o destined, o first )
( even-indeed,
o dyad- )truth( ( dyad-truth )unconcealing( dyad-truth ) ),
πρῶτον μὲν ἀλήθεια,
ADEIMANTOS: ( of seas changing inside of me ) for which
we dont yet have ( the chords ) while the words you
( we )are waiting for ( our golden log pose )
( shows ) something persistent ( we are coming through ),
SOKRATES: her( whom )( accusative )
( in-all-ways )to cause to run( set in quick motion)( pursue )( chase-seek-after )( drive or chase away )( drive, force, impel, speed away )( drive-on )( urge on )( carry forward )( accuse )
himself( accusative )
( to cause to run )( set in quick motion)( pursue )( chase-seek-after )( drive or chase away )( drive, force, impel, speed away )( drive-on )( urge on )( carry forward )( accuse )
in-all-ways( accusative )( whom )( her ),
ἣν διώκειν αὐτὸν πάντως
ADEIMANTOS: ( as my depraved-many be all-around accused ),
( we )are already there ( as three together
driven and ) drawing me in motion ( he ) —
( as we ) ( translating his Persephone,
shes ) on the verge of blooming ( in my crone ).
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
Odyssey XI.613-626
VIII.x. ( from the ashes of this ) darling town ( a phoenix in ) fall colours
ADEIMANTOS: ( o Sokrates, why have you named
him fearless? ) ( and why wont he say more? )
( even if we ask ) ( poke ) hm-mm.
( he still wont speak ) ( his irony
grows thick as wool ) baaa ( but how
is this being unafraid? ) ( doesnt he know
they-we want to hear everything about him? )
SOKRATES: for( it does )nt have-and-hold( the )nature
( growth-origin )( of )the steersman( kubernetes )
( they-dyad were steering )
( to bind himself )( to be in-need )of the sailors,
to be ruled( dyad-spider-web )by( from-under him )self.
οὐ γὰρ ἔχει φύσιν κυβερνήτην
ναυτῶν δεῖσθαι ἄρχεσθαι ὑφ᾽ αὑτοῦ
ADEIMANTOS: ( thinks for a while ) ( o kubernetes )
night falls over the town in a blink ( o sprinkles! )
( what has-and-holds your nature, origin, growth? )
( where did you come from? ) ( would you show us? )
we would take you to the spot by the lake,
( okay, lets go ) ( and walk around it ) ( one way
and the other way ) ( but walking anytime we could )
( some days the high path on the ridge, some days
the low ) ( sun, rain, or snow ) ( she found a place
to listen to herself ) ( in him ) ( we-seeking-we )
( we were right there ) ( we were reflection ) ( we
were seasons ) ( light air and water ) ( burning
star ) ( so ) ( neither are we a city man ) ( strictly )
( nor are we a business person ) ( really? )
( cant be ) ( not here ),
SOKRATES: nor(for)the wise(skilled-clever ones)
to go(up to)the double-folding-she-doors
(you will thrust out-of-doors)
of the wealthy-rich(ones),
οὐδὲ τοὺς σοφοὺς ἐπὶ τὰς τῶν πλουσίων θύρας ἰέναι,
ADEIMANTOS: ( in the rebellious phases of my youth )
we inhale the cellar-like scent in the air,
( and we reflect upon the few important years )
( sprinkles! ) ( spent waiting for the metro line )
( or behind the gynmasium of a public school )
( and lets be near the nations capital )
( coming-and-going to the man-made-real )
( the weird, the wild, the human unpredictable )
( for company and fumes to strengthen breadth )
( by breath of fog ) ( where sky looks like a cave )
( and yes, we walk the razors edge of her )
where we used to sit smoking as a teenager,
( as if self-damage would make her invincible )
( after some boy had said her joy was hideous ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( but still excuse me Sokrates,
we didnt tell you everything he said.
he also said she was an hysterical bitch ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and he called her a self-entitled brat ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and he called her profoundly selfish ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and he told her she had to change her work,
to be more like his work,
and his work ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and he said what she was doing was
the opposite of philosophy ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and he forced her to repeat out loud
that anything she would ever put on paper
would make even the most expensive paper,
the finest, most exquisite paper — worthless ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and he called her stupid
many times ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and she remembers every one
of their names, the men who said those things,
and one of them was her father ),
SOKRATES: but still he( refining-subtlety-cleverly-inventing )this lied,
ἀλλ᾽ ὁ τοῦτο κομψευσάμενος ἐψεύσατο,
ADEIMANTOS: ( but self-care would make her invisible )
( so we- ) shiver in layers too light ( -being a puffy coat ),
( we keep him warm and insulate her truth )
( but when he accidentally births her puffer fish . . . )
( then we were punished many times ) ( from many
angles ) ( and each one hurts ) ( this knucklehead )
( always sorry ) ( lol ) ( until thirty-five or so ) ( when we realize )
( the punishments are pulling him away from her )
( and thats our line ) ( thats when our voice says ) ( no )
( then ) hiding fom the world ( we try to save
what can be saved ) ( we really do ) ( before we leave
to find ourself whom we dont know ) ( and we
find love ) ( because we find another man
who does believe in her ) ( and loves her too )
( so go looking in every way you can )
( as pieces by her paradise make whole ),
SOKRATES: but the true( unconcealed )
has been brought-forth( by nature )
( they had been brought-forth )( to have brought-forth )
( it has flown, fled, flight )( to have escaped )
( the charge )( they had been in exile ),
τὸ δὲ ἀληθὲς πέφυκεν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and dreams, as Hamlet shows, hold on to you )
( so ) the lake doesnt know summer ( we ) is ( being ) gone,
( but she refused ) ( then ) ( to let go ) ( lake-mirror-black )
( with lines and leash and bricks of living gold )
( it yanks a chain ) ( commands ) ( build me a temple )
( and somehow ) ( how? ) ( we still suspect its Theuth )
( as if the very shadow master called him home )
( how did it make us feel? ) ( afraid, of course )
( when your own heart is hounding you ) ( by force )
( we didnt rush? ) ( there was no need ) ( if true,
we couldnt slow the course of destiny )
and on the walk back to town ( we put it thus )
( what we would do in heaven ) ( with joy )
( why shouldnt we do it now? ) ( own victory )
( but music was our designated work ),
SOKRATES: whether wealthy or poor
( he would )produce by work( make, fabricate )
( he would labor and toil, strive, exert, construct )
( he would be weary, exhausted, fatigued )
( and he would suffer, perhaps be ill,
until his work was done ) ( until hed done
his work ) ( you too ) ( youd do your work )
( you would produce, make, fabricate, labor
and toil, strive, exert, construct ) ( you would
be weary, exhausted, fatigued ) ( and you
would suffer, perhaps be ill ) ( but work, until
youve done your work ),
ἐάντε πλούσιος ἐάντε πένης κάμνῃ,
ADEIMANTOS: ( where are the healers? you would ask )
( and ) we would show you ( the church or the hospital )
( at first, he wouldnt know ) ( but of course Asclepios )
( and either would take hold of you ) ( for a price )
( and ) it looks exactly the same ( from the outside )
( as it used to ) ( when we passed by here before )
( by the way, her diet was inspired by his brother-
called city of pigs ) ( from book II ) ( were fascinated
to translate that passage for ourselves . . . )
( as we make our own ) ( through these interiors )
( we-practicing care of death ),
SOKRATES: to be forced( constraint-necessity )
( o prison-chained )
to go( up to )the double-folding-she-doors
( you will thrust out-of-doors )( of )doctors-healers,
ἀναγκαῖον (489ξ) εἶναι ἐπὶ ἰατρῶν θύρας ἰέναι
ADEIMANTOS: ( and indeed ) ( if you happen to live near a mosque
and hear the prayer, that is what ear-openers
have sounded like for her ) ( she wouldnt be here
without Al-Fatiha ) ( and the Basmala
she has called the poets seed ) ( hard liquor )
( she-me is really Muslim ) ( this remains her path )
( because the word-song leads back through herself )
( we-being roots or branches of a tree ) ( of twin Mercies )
( of dyadic-Ophelia as the translation may be )
( and there are many Names by which we trans )
( she keeps Al-Lateef, from her husbands hand,
nearby her pillow, where she sleeps at night )
( whats in a name ) ( this one ) ( dreams opener )
( to be aware by what music we hear ) ( or whose )
( and anyway ) ( to take our time, we might pass by )
my favorite playground ( and play is how we learn )
( its where we watch the boys do monkeybars )
( its where we ) ( going on the swing ) ( swing high )
( swing low ) ( big sky ) ( sweet chariot ) ( blue way )
( to feel ) ( being-away ) ( from home ) ( my feelings )
( not in words yet ) but the trees do ( hum to me )
( so the tire-swing in the forest treats us best ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed for )all the( being-bound-
in-needing-of )to be ruled,
( to go )to( the double-folding-she-doors )
of he who is able( potentially )to rule
( to begin, to show, to be the first ),
καὶ πάντα τὸν ἄρχεσθαι δεόμενον ἐπὶ τὰς τοῦ ἄρχειν δυναμένου,
ADEIMANTOS: ( it was mostly safe to explore )
in my childhood neighborhood ( we-being alone )
( and following new sidewalks to the broken ones )
( we would walk along the older curving roads )
( discover paths through the adjacent woods )
( our summers growing thicker in the green )
( but ) soon enough theyll drop their fall colours
( and then well be crimson-burgundy again ) ( hotly! )
( as we wind our way along the creek ) ( we would
go wading in the silt ) ( and once, we measured
pollutants in the water for the science fair )
( discovering a biohazard ) ( won first place )
( another year we wrote computer code
to simulate three algorithmic modes
of evolution ) ( for that, the prize
was from the cia ) ( then failed
to rsvp for a tour of langley )
( we-being intelligence )
( woof! woof! )
SOKRATES: ( and )not( for )the ruler( o beginners-showing-first )
( of )the ones-being-ruled( all those coming after us )
to be bound-to and in need-of( the ones-coming-after )
( and )( to be )ruled( to begin, to show, to be the first ),
οὐ τὸν ἄρχοντα δεῖσθαι τῶν ἀρχομένων ἄρχεσθαι,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and if we dared to dream of )
the house we wanted to live in ( it would be safe
and quiet and calm and light ) ( with level floors )
( and high ceilings ) ( with room enough for thought )
( and an exceptionally cozy bed ) ( he
cant help himself ) ( he longs for fresh white linen )
( and enough blankets and pillows and throws )
( and baskets and drawers to fold and put things in )
( and hooks on certain walls for hanging clothes
or brooms or spoons or other kinds of tools )
( some other familiars artwork on the walls )
( and a woodstove for warm toes in the winter )
( despite the chill ) not even fully here yet
( assuming winter ) ( and slow-grown food
that tastes like loving care ) ( to keep us there ),
SOKRATES: if( there )would be any( furtherance,
advantage )help( o help )of him( or for him ),
( to-by-for )the( she- )truth( unconcealed ),
οὗ ἂν τῇ ἀληθείᾳ τι ὄφελος ᾖ.
ADEIMANTOS: ( but thats the house we wanted )
and the one next to it where no one does ( the chores )
( where no one wants to go up to the doors )
( but its ours too ) ( has been our house before )
( until Nobody does ) ( go up to the doors )
( and Nobody starts making us do chores )
( related to fake sailors ) ( and heres the truth )
( we cant predict what we will say or do )
( or what the response will be ) and the lake
will know ( this one is deadly dangerous )
( but look, Socrates, at what happened to you )
SOKRATES: but still, he wouldnt miss-the-mark
(and you wouldnt-wont miss),
(by likening-representing-comparing)
the now-ruling(rulers)(beginning-first)politicians
(political men),
to(for-by)the sailors(we)were just-now speaking(of),
ἀλλὰ τοὺς νῦν πολιτικοὺς ἄρχοντας ἀπεικάζων
οἷς ἄρτι ἐλέγομεν ναύταις
οὐχ ἁμαρτήσῃ,
ADEIMANTOS: ( we wanted never to go that way again )
( even if ) we would walk you along the route?
( where we would rather talk about the flowers )
( or the gang of wild turkeys crossing our path )
( or the barred owl calling from the trees )
( until ) we sink into my mattress ( and close my eyes )
( measuring my sighs by the cicadas )
( memories being our superpower )
( he out )
SOKRATES: and(indeed)the useless(unprofitable-
unserviceable ones)(so-spoken)by(from-under)these,
καὶ τοὺς ὑπὸ τούτων ἀχρήστους λεγομένους
ADEIMANTOS: ( so letswalk in ) to my old school ( at least,
one of them ) ( and there are many different schools )
( looking at random bulletins ) ( we calm my nerves )
( in a basement hallway ) ( until seminar gets out
and then the young come flooding in ) ( and then
somebody recognizes me ) ( its nighttime now )
( and cold ) ( and everyone is nicely dressed )
( or its the snowflakes on their eyelashes )
( and now we want a cigarette ) ( its toxic )
( cozy ) ( colonial brick-red ) ( and dangerous )
( but somehow we survived ) ( and yes, its true,
we didnt want to leave ) ( and yes, its true,
we needed to ) ( but later there will be a dance )
( it was indeed a party school ) ( o un-wasted
youth ) ( but there were many different schools )
( so that our pirate coat has many pockets
and bears the motif of democracy )
( ugly ) ( versatile ) ( pastiche ) and hope
its a portal ( indeed as Cheehaw Station
little man ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )( ones being- )spoken( of
as )shop-talkers after heavenly-lofty( star-signs,
climate, weather-gossip )things
( to-for-by )( the )as-truly( unconcealedly )steersmen,
καὶ μετεωρολέσχας τοῖς ὡς ἀληθῶς κυβερνήταις.
HERA: who have( and hold the )broad sky( heavens ),
οἳ οὐρανὸν εὐρὺν ἔχουσι.
SAILORS: ( at the )most-straight( -upright-angles ),
ὀρθότατα,
SOKRATES: ( he would )
show every corner with a story attached
( to his capacity )
you know where we want to be
( as things come up ) ( naturally ),
SAILORS: (he)was saying,
ἔφη.
SOKRATES: ( you would have ) sweet-bitter ( memories )
and we would write our own ( shared )
( braided ) good ( memories around them ),
HERA: now(you), consider(ponder-bethink-purpose-plan-
contrive-observe-beware)(you were considering),
lest(to-for-by)you, we(would)back-again(hereafter)craft
(devise-contrive-wile-counsel-plan)(we would)(we will)
(squeeze-out the juice)(curdle the milk)(you,
squeezed and curdled)some-
thing evil(ugly-bad),
φράζεο νῦν μή τοί τι κακὸν μητίσομ᾽ ὀπίσσω.
ADEIMANTOS: ( and his are the voices questioning him )
( he doesnt ask to be or not to be ) comfy ( he he ),
( he asks ) ( what is this-he? ) ( who does his best for you )
( in whom you trust ) ( that we might get it right )
on the faded streets ( about specific names,
and dates, and details ) ( or we might get it wrong )
( but we will write things other men dont like )
( we write whom they would make impossible ),
SOKRATES: and therefore from these and( indeed )in these,
( its )not easy( for )the best pursuit to( have a )good
( well-seeming )reputation,
by( from-under )those pursuing( its dyad )opposites;
ἔκ τε τοίνυν τούτων καὶ ἐν τούτοις
οὐ ῥᾴδιον εὐδοκιμεῖν τὸ βέλτιστον ἐπιτήδευμα
ὑπὸ τῶν τἀναντία ἐπιτηδευόντων:
ADEIMANTOS: ( but there isnt much worth rescuing )
of this dying ( profession ), ( the gag that stole
the logos-word by which we do ) ( she says
they treat her like their garbage can ) ( until
he takes her back for you ) ( slowly at first )
( until he cleans her up, empties her out )
( and keeps her warm until shes young and blew
and beautiful again ) cuddly ( enacting she )
( who holds our end ) ( or what, Sokrates? ),
SOKRATES: but by( far )many( the )greatest
and( indeed )most-forceful( violent-strong )slander
( false-accusation-charges )come-to-be
( against )philosophy( wisdom-love ),
(489δ) πολὺ δὲ μεγίστη καὶ ἰσχυροτάτη διαβολὴ
γίγνεται φιλοσοφίᾳ
ADEIMANTOS: ( in the ashes of that ) darling town,
SOKRATES: through those claiming to pursue such things —
διὰ τοὺς τὰ τοιαῦτα φάσκοντας ἐπιτηδεύειν
ADEIMANTOS: as statecraft.
( but what they do, o Sokrates
he beauty-calls ) as endless war.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
VIII.ix. my elephant and I ( we-being ) hiding
ADEIMANTOS: ( well shit, Sokrates ),
my elephant and I
( hes stuck like that ) ( pokes man )
( man holds plushie elephant )
warm breath on your skin ( hm )
( smells nice but he doesnt use
our words ) ( whats your advice? )
SOKRATES: first( even )therefore, ( for )that( man )wondering
( at the circumstance )that the wisdom-lovers
arent honored in the cities,
( it was teaching )( teach, you )the image( likeness ),
πρῶτον μὲν τοίνυν ἐκεῖνον τὸν θαυμάζοντα
ὅτι οἱ φιλόσοφοι οὐ τιμῶνται ἐν ταῖς πόλεσι
δίδασκέ τε τὴν εἰκόνα
ADEIMANTOS: ( and indeed, Sokrates )
( he wondered so hard that he regressed )
( he thinks youre a stuffed elephant )
( and making us eerie atmosphere )
are listening to the trains again,
( he calls beauty-calling whistling )
( also ) face buried ( maybe
hes really a she in there ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )( we try )( we would try )
( you were trying )( try, you )to persuade( him ),
that( it would be )many more wonderful-marvellous
( we were, they were, he was, we were saying ),
if( they )( shes )were honored,
καὶ πειρῶ πείθειν ὅτι πολὺ ἂν θαυμαστότερον ἦν (489β)
εἰ ἐτιμῶντο.
ADEIMANTOS: ( he might not even disagree
with that ) ( but something tells us hes )
wondering what stories ( could really do ),
nose pressed ( against the window pane )
( or whether there are any left to tell ),
HERA: would( we )i( being )not bring-forth into-the-world?
οὐκ ἂν ἐγὼ τεκόμην;
ADEIMANTOS: ( but even if there are stories left,
he wonders ) do the travelers carry ( anything
of worth ) ( anything even related to him
or her ) ( but ) safely on the side of
your neck ( maybe they are in
a bad situation ) ( maybe
like yours, Sokrates )
( or yours, o goddess )
SAILORS: but still(we would teach)
(we will teach)(you-teach-learn-you),
ἀλλὰ διδάξω,
SOKRATES: ( with ) my arm on your chest
( how to draw-out and hear )
what are their reasons,
SAILORS: he was saying,
ἔφη.
SOKRATES: to sleep across the country,
( to disappear ) ( from their own room ),
your hand in my hair ( to go elsewhere ),
HERA: and( indeed )
your( dyad-moth for the burning flame ),
( your dyad-bookworm for the brain ),
having( o beauty- )called( all )alike,
( we )were( misleading, infatuating )
( and thereby doing hurt and damage )
there-and-then, into immortals,
καὶ σὴ κεκλημένη ἔμπης
ἦα ῥ᾽ ἐν ἀθανάτοισιν,
SOKRATES: and( indeed )that therefore
you speak truths( unconcealed ),
καὶ ὅτι τοίνυν τἀληθῆ λέγεις,
ADEIMANTOS: ( to say ) i( we-being )i a( we are )m hiding,
( we-being in his I-ams ) ( yet as potential ),
( but still, even our perfect melody )
( doesnt transcend emergency )
and when will this room be empty
( and neither from his distant cell )
( nor from his necessary sentences )
( could we save him ) ( although
we wished with all our heart we could ),
SOKRATES: as the most-fitting( meet-suitable )of those
in philosophy( wisdom-loving ) ( would be )
useless( unprofitable, unserviceable ones )( to-by-for )the many,
ὡς ἄχρηστοι τοῖς πολλοῖς οἱ ἐπιεικέστατοι τῶν ἐν φιλοσοφίᾳ:
ADEIMANTOS: ( in dire circumstance )
and us two ( like ghosts ) eyes closed
( and un-seen ) ( would have no use . . . )
SOKRATES: however( urge-command-exhort, you )
( he was urging-commanding-exhorting )
( to accuse )give( them )credit for uselessness,
the( men who are )not( using-employing )
( consulting-as-an-oracle ),
τῆς μέντοι ἀχρηστίας τοὺς μὴ χρωμένους κέλευε αἰτιᾶσθαι,
ADEIMANTOS: ( so we give him credit ) ( good, you )
( we give us credit ) ( and we-being useless )
( me-useless ) + ( useless-you ) = ( play ) ?
( okay? ) ( okay! ) ( okay? ) ( okay! ) ( okay? )
( lets be ) on our way to adventure ( together )
( lets be ) ( a happy phantom ) ( lets chase nuns
out in the yard ) ( lets make snow-trysty Misty
and then lets feel him melting in our hand )
( then maybe ) Sunday wont get to me here,
SOKRATES: but still not( to accuse )
the( ones who are )most-fitting( meet-suitable ),
ἀλλὰ μὴ τοὺς ἐπιεικεῖς.
ADEIMANTOS: ( of being hateful or cruel )
( whos not here to repeat the atrocities of school )
( or to press falsehoods upon
the vulnerable )
( . . . )
( but still to show )
we all love elephants <3
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
VIII.viii ( but what if she weighs ) more ( than a boy can carry? )
ADEIMANTOS: but ( we )( am i? )( being ) a man.
( we sigh ) ( into the whining wind again )
but will they make me q-tips swabbing decks?
or will they make me make their big brass beds?
or will they make me oven cook my heads?
or make me be nobodys chambermaid? o,
no — will she make me diarrhea Bia!?
( o Cardi-being-we, what did she do? )
SOKRATES: and( indeed )( while being beauty- )called
by them( a )star-gazer,
and( an )idle-talker( prater-babbler-on ),
and( indeed )useless( unprofitable, unserviceable ),
by( from-under )the sailors in ships thus thoroughly-
equipped( constructed, framed, maintained, proved,
fabricated, trumped-up, with actual trumpets,
prepared-for-purpose )( having got his asses ready),
μετεωροσκόπον (489α) τε καὶ ἀδολέσχην καὶ ἄχρηστόν σφισι καλεῖσθαι
ὑπὸ τῶν ἐν ταῖς οὕτω κατεσκευασμέναις ναυσὶ πλωτήρων;
ADEIMANTOS: and none of it sounds great
at all. its bound to be ( the little things )
( the accidentally felt indignities )
( the unscheduled tooth extractions )
( that sober him ) its still not me ( until
he doesnt feel like listening anymore
or sharing her or his own ) feelings.
HERA: o unwearying( hard-hearted, self-willed, unflinching-
headstrong-wretched-cruel )( man ) —
σχέτλιε,
ADEIMANTOS: ( its a constant battle )
and they make me say things
( of heavier weight than he knows how )
that seem to carry more meaning
( a trust fall forced ) ( an unjust fist )
they bear the mandate, how?
SAILORS: and( indeed )very( dyad-cryptic ),
καὶ μάλα,
SOKRATES: its possible theyve seen more
( than what has been said ),
and its for a good reason that
SAILORS: the( Adeimantos )fearless prophet
was( singing unfettered, and )saying
ἔφη ὁ Ἀδείμαντος.
SOKRATES: things ( out loud )
without being bound strictly
by his necessity,
ADEIMANTOS: ( aside ) ( did you see
how he made me stretch
the translation? )
( unfair )
HERA: o( man )full-of-many-crafts-devices-wiles-plans-counsels,
ποικιλομῆτα,
SOKRATES: ( o dyad-Zeus ) ( she was not binding )
( dont bind, you ) ( Zeus-not-needed-bound) ( she
was not in-need ) ( dont need, you ) ( the dyad-Zeus )
( indeed ) not necessarily ( to be ),
οὐ δή,
ADEIMANTOS: ( well thats a relief ) ( she says,
and rubs her unbound feet and ankles ),
but ( we do notice ) theres letters seald
and my two schoolfellows ( he has been Hamleting again ),
SOKRATES: but(they are, he is, we are saying)(we-)i(-being),
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and in my mind we reply ) let it work
for tis the sport to have the enginer
hoist with his own ( rainbow! ) petard ( maybe
hes haunted by Ophelias ),
SOKRATES: (o-song-ways, we)suppose you, questioning-
closely the image-likeness, (dont need)(to be bound)to see,
οἶμαι δεῖσθαί σε ἐξεταζομένην τὴν εἰκόνα ἰδεῖν,
ADEIMANTOS: they sweep my way and ( with more warmth )
( we might persuade or ) marshal me to knavery,
( or maybe its daddys ) ( or mommys issues ),
and it shall go hard ( or bullied back in school ),
or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern arent dead,
SOKRATES: that( it )looks like the composition-arrangement
(to-by-for)cities toward(against)
the trusty-truthful wisdom-lovers,
ὅτι ταῖς πόλεσι πρὸς τοὺς ἀληθινοὺς φιλοσόφους τὴν διάθεσιν ἔοικεν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( or with ) ( more joy ) o, tis most sweet,
when one line two crafts, three or four, or . . . ( more
praise ) directly meet ( good work, handsome! ) ( we )ego
( being ) now most still, most secret and most grave,
( or by bad wisdom ) ( learning ) ( un-made brave ),
SOKRATES: but still hes to learn( that )which( we )say,
ἀλλὰ μανθάνειν ὃ λέγω.
ADEIMANTOS: whom i( we-being )ego will trust ( maybe with )
as ego( we-being )i will adders fangd ( more ) ( sprinkles? )
but i( we-being )ego will delve one yard below their mines,
and blow them at the moon ( ruh-roh ),
( or by previous abuse ) this man
shall set me packing ( hes agent
clockwork orange ) ( misaligned )
( never seen a more aggressive baby )
HERA: now( what )would( will )you( some other )
craft( devise-contrive-wile-plan-counsel )
some( one )other?
τί νῦν μητίσεαι ἄλλο;
SAILORS: and( indeed )ver( secr ),
καὶ μάλ᾽,
SOKRATES: dont forget
that he ( we )is( being ) a human animal,
like you. and you had to go crazy
to love me, right? not unrelated,
sometimes its ok to hint at more
( than we are able to say ) with certainty,
SAILORS: (he)was saying,
ἔφη.
SOKRATES: dont be afraid, asking questions
and showing your vulnerable side ( out loud ).
and dont be afraid of stories,
HERA: how(did)(you-)alone suffer(undergo, submit, steadfast,
dare, venture, had the spirit, courage, resolution, heart)
to(will)bring-into-the-world gleaming-
eyed(Athena)(Athens)(the city)(in poetry)(Politeia)?
πῶς ἔτλης οἶος τεκέειν γλαυκῶπιν Ἀθήνην;
ADEIMANTOS: (but ) mother, good night ( he says )
( and putting on his shades of cool ) ( he wears
all black ) ( and smoking hand-rolled cigarettes )
( maybe hes stuck in early Cohen ) ( oof )
( he doesnt even want to dance ) ( may be
depressed ) ( our boyfriend seems unfixable )
( we let him go ) ( for now ) good night, mother
( and let him be ) ( let be ) ( toward his end )
( it might help we ) ( to sleep on it )
( . . . )
( in sleep, he spells ) em - ei - child - en.
em - ei - child - en.
em - ei - child - en.
//
from Republic VI
VIII.vii. the music ( the ledger ) of the Politeia
ADEIMANTOS: he he ( he tunes his mandolin ),
ha ha ( we joke about a notebook ) ho ho,
( plays chord ) ( a secret one ) ( to hear )
and its the valley of our life ( below,
as philosopher piracy goes down, and O,
dear Βοb, thanks-be for ceding-we Key West.
his fat ones flow the sweet and saltiest
to hear we play both sides against the middle.
we count the verses giants you done best.
but fast, we lose no rest, and we lean left.
his left, her right to be alive, lets dream
horizons long-bow shooting-back the blind-
mans kiss — drew-her, joker, mr — bulls-eye ),
SOKRATES: but around(about) —
ADEIMANTOS: ( and yet, how could we Suzanne V forget?
in pieces raining down, her small blew thing,
who turns Calypso as she lets him go,
from thick and wild and hidden home, hallowed,
we blow her back, no shade, the sweet shes owed.
his chambermaid, but she grows herself a bed,
where her gypsy lays a bump upon his head ),
SOKRATES: ( . . . )
ADEIMANTOS: ( slows it down, tuning Canadienne )
( o blue alert, o dance me to the end,
whose secret chord does mend the pleasing lord.
for every leash, a halleluja. she
whose tower of song-sung-temple waits for me,
who by dark river wept, his craft hunts we
who lost us first — yes, Leonard, lets. )
SOKRATES: ( waits patiently )
ADEIMANTOS: ( for now, for just one more.
to the goat who wouldnt want to hear his name.
endorsed him, and she wont say it again.
salam, Kendrick, from our family to yours.
and to the people of his power, USA:
Black music be, your news, Black life remain. )
SOKRATES: ( waits )
ADEIMANTOS: ( go shoot your mouth off, Cardi B, of course.
and if we die, would you please drive our hearse? )
SOKRATES: ( claps )
ADEIMANTOS: ( in this she trusts ),
by which the fool in us lets go,
he hears
( who listens on his pirate radio ).
SOKRATES: ( waits )
ADEIMANTOS: ( hangs mandolin
carefully on its golden hook )
but did he ever try to voice the whale?
SOKRATES: but around( about )the truthful( trusty,
genuine, unconcealing )helmsman,
τοῦ δὲ ἀληθινοῦ κυβερνήτου πέρι
ADEIMANTOS: and his secrets ( we supposedly keep )
( but maybe also spill ) ( but might get whimsically
wrong ) being but a mannish boy
who navigates the Muddy Waters of
her as-yet unheard song,
on her as-yet un-practiced instrument,
( who never played mandolin before ),
SOKRATES: but not hearing( not giving-ear to,
not perceiving, not feeling, not understanding ),
μηδ᾽ ἐπαΐοντες,
ADEIMANTOS: her music,
we wouldnt be hearing her at all.
( the music of the Politeia —
were slingin it, Eva, hot to go )
( but the best friend of her mans best friend
says thanks for all the great cake, Joe ),
but he hears ( a ledger being appended )
and something sounds a heavy
and ponderous tome ( inhales )
( sea breeze ),
SOKRATES: that necessity( force-restraint ),
( to-for-by )himself,
be made the care( concern, attention )( commission or charge )
( zealous pursuit )( of cares )( bestowed ),
of the in-itself,
ὅτι ἀνάγκη αὐτῷ τὴν ἐπιμέλειαν ποιεῖσθαι ἐνιαυτοῦ
ADEIMANTOS: necessity of the “eni-auto”,
the in-itself ( maybe his image of
the good, the sun ),
( he-being teachers pet ),
and therefore ( he he ) boy of the —
SOKRATES: year(anniversary, lapse
of a year, expiry of a year, any long period
of time, cycle, period,
ADEIMANTOS: of however long it takes,
he ( we-being ) ( man-child of the year ) listens
for the ties that bind him round( about )her all,
her instrument, her lines and how we pull,
how work of shoulders hoist the mainsail, tall,
and how to catch the wind, her nicer angles,
SOKRATES: and( indeed the )seasons,
and( indeed the )sky and( indeed the )stars,
and( indeed the )winds and( indeed )all the( things
that )belong to the art( skill-craft ),
καὶ ὡρῶν καὶ οὐρανοῦ καὶ ἄστρων καὶ πνευμάτων
καὶ πάντων τῶν τῇ τέχνῃ προσηκόντων,
ADEIMANTOS: and every time a fact falls
in my lap ( o book of song ),
in our ships log ( o mighty ledger )
he takes it down ( our songset ),
( we-being her quality
self-entertainment ),
SOKRATES: if( it )s destined( it was destined )( your
its destiny )( to-by-for )( we-being )( if its to be ),
fit-for-rule( command, office, dominant, sovereign,
principal, primary, original, first ruler
)of the( temple-dwelling )ship,
εἰ μέλλει τῷ ὄντι νεὼς ἀρχικὸς ἔσεσθαι,
ADEIMANTOS: but he wished it on the dog star,
( and now we feel like starting one ),
( she-being true treasure ) arrgh,
SOKRATES: but in order, ( o )steering-dyad,
that( he )( will )( would steer ),
( you will pilot )( the steering-dyad )
( to-by-for the steering ),
ὅπως δὲ κυβερνήσει (488ε)
ADEIMANTOS: if he takes the helm,
and lets the ships log ( the pink one ) ( his
true colors ) show,
SOKRATES: whether( some )they( body )would want( it ),
ἐάντε τινες βούλωνται
ADEIMANTOS: ( of course ) they do
to-for-by the ship ( who among us
could refuse ) ( even you ),
SOKRATES: or not,
ἐάντε μή,
ADEIMANTOS: but he-me doesnt get to choose,
( watch him play the victim now ) ( lol ),
( but he could hear the hounds of love
baying, and all the way from there,
he could hear the lowing of a bull,
was living through the kick inside ),
only it wouldnt be cold facts,
( for he is not a weatherman
but his bride lies with the land ),
SOKRATES: ( them )supposing neither( the )art
( craft-skill )of this, nor( the )care( practice-
exercise )( dyad-were-caring )to be possible
to take( grasp-seize-understand ),
μήτε τέχνην τούτου
μήτε μελέτην οἰόμενοι δυνατὸν εἶναι λαβεῖν ἅμα
ADEIMANTOS: he follows her feeling
and writes it down the best he can?
not big things, at least ( not always ),
( but little things weve gathered )
( having seen or overheard ) like,
the captured rabbit eyes a briarpatch.
the rooster crows before the dawn.
( o brave new world, we-being braver hears
yet easier through her vernaculars.
ah, bunny-like, we grow vernaculears.
as anyone who lives with roosters knows
how ear-piercing their constant crows — here,
arrgh. but still, easier to endure by far
than a constant scroll of other-mens news,
of other-mens war,
of other-mens yelling at her
the who and how and what shes for )
for the rooster crows before he understands
( we-being her own martial art,
and hers must be Achilles-like,
as without hers, all his must die )
that without hers, all his must die.
( so she sits in contemplation of his dyad-
sacrifice, the cock. it may be this
he meant it for. herself, still flanked
by Ajaxes, tough chickens, silencers
for Asklepios, the Red, the Black,
the Wall of the Achaians
of her mind ),
but in his mind, her gatherings feel
too huge ( leading to dizziness, sea-
sicknesss, falling overboard,
falling asleep, etc ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )at the same time the steering-craft,
καὶ τὴν κυβερνητικήν.
ADEIMANTOS: but this be
( that make you smile? )
( that make me smile )
what he listens for,
SOKRATES: ( as given )becomings( being-born )
of these sorts( there was need )( it stands in-need-of )
( stand-in-need, you! )( bind, you! )
( it was binding )( to-by-for dyad-Zeus ),
around(about)the ship,
τοιούτων δὴ περὶ τὰς ναῦς γιγνομένων
ADEIMANTOS: good sailing. got it.
( and things ) like how he knows
so much about me, what a trip. mind me,
that plums sometimes will ripen more, left
to sit on a sunny windowsill. and it may
be personal preference, but if too tart,
try baking me in a pastry shell.
( we dont need to write down ),
( we-being generosity itself,
possibly ),
SOKRATES: as the truly( unconcealedly )steer-crafter,
τὸν ὡς ἀληθῶς κυβερνητικὸν
ADEIMANTOS: ( to remember ) dragon meat —
tough to digest,
( laugh, yall )
and indeed,
SOKRATES: ( you )would not lead( carry-bring-
fetch )( to-by-for )( we )being( being ),
οὐχ ἡγῇ ἂν τῷ ὄντι
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed, by any ship,
he never writes ( a book of everything
we know about you ) ( you-being very
very big ) lol ( you-being stranger from afar ),
( yet we can write things about him,
like how in love with her he is,
that hes such a tree-hugger,
and a truffle-hunter too,
o battle-cry of butterflies,
o Oceanic tresses,
o starry sky,
her skin ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )( while being beauty- )called by them
( a )star-gazer,
ADEIMANTOS: ( theres nothing bad about that ),
but whats a meteoroskopy, and do ( we )i( being )
really want to go through with it?
SOKRATES: and(an)idle-talker(prater-babbler-on),
ADEIMANTOS: me me me meee,
( when he should be listening to we ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )useless( unprofitable, unserviceable ),
μετεωροσκόπον (489α) τε καὶ ἀδολέσχην καὶ ἄχρηστόν σφισι καλεῖσθαι
ADEIMANTOS: ( putting on his shadow-puppet show ),
for all to see,
SOKRATES: by( from-under )the sailors in ships thus thoroughly-equipped
( constructed, framed, maintained, proved, fabricated,
trumped-up, with actual trumpets,
ADEIMANTOS: not imitation ones,
( she-being enjoys jazz ) ( and now you know )
and does he really want to learn trombone . . .
SOKRATES: prepared-for-purpose )
( having got his asses ready),
ὑπὸ τῶν ἐν ταῖς οὕτω κατεσκευασμέναις ναυσὶ πλωτήρων;
ADEIMANTOS: his ass to represent
( dodges tomatoes )
//
from Republic VI
VIII.v. her crochet ( in our hair ) bathing-suit
ADEIMANTOS: o dear. why ( how ) does she
( she-being-she ) grow
such gloriously soft
and long and shining locks?
does the other ( we ) she yet know
how absolutely wonderful you are?
( winks ) ( at you )
SOKRATES: for, consider —
ADEIMANTOS: ( tacky
like a soda commercial
dr. pepper )
SOKRATES: (o will-thinking)
(the will-thinking)(of will-thinking)(itself),
ADEIMANTOS: o divine tresses, o handsome-
handed wool ( whom ) ( we would-will ),
SOKRATES: (perceive-by-eyes, by-mind, and apprehend,
take notice in thought, think, reflect, deem, presume,
ADEIMANTOS: what could we ( she ) do
with archive couture wool like that?
SOKRATES: think-out, conceive, purpose, intend,
be-minded, to mean)(consideration itself),
νόησον γὰρ
ADEIMANTOS: that would be her, when she
could concentrate, at least.
but ( endlessly ) hes in-
and-out and back
again ( off to the races
of white mustangs
of white dresses
of hope, she-
being a dangerous thing for me to have
leaning
) into
SOKRATES: (the)coming-into-being(o becoming)
(the becoming)(of becoming),
ADEIMANTOS: big bang, kiss kiss,
SOKRATES: (of being-born, being-
produced,
ADEIMANTOS: being a star!
SOKRATES: being-multiplied,
ADEIMANTOS: a galaxy?
her milky way c-candy bar-
t-t-tender,
SOKRATES: being-multiplied-yet-more,
ADEIMANTOS: with planets? Mercury
and Venus, wow,
SOKRATES: waxing and waning,
ADEIMANTOS: his being the moon,
SOKRATES: being-
elapsed,
ADEIMANTOS: not he! hmm,
his character arc,
SOKRATES: the happening-of-growth,
ADEIMANTOS: at last, his getting of his feast! whens its my turn!
SOKRATES: the taking-place,
ADEIMANTOS: his doin time,
SOKRATES: the coming-
to-pass,
ADEIMANTOS: his being a man,
SOKRATES: the pledges-given, oaths-taken, place-taking,
ADEIMANTOS: the gossip about him,
SOKRATES: the facts,
ADEIMANTOS: his wanting-being remembered,
SOKRATES: the past, the future, time to-have-passed,
ADEIMANTOS: his remembering-wanting being,
SOKRATES: the came-
to-pass, the came-to-be,
ADEIMANTOS: his progeny,
SOKRATES: the yet-to-come,
ADEIMANTOS: his well-begetting, well-begotten fame,
SOCRATES: and)of-this-sort,
τοιουτονὶ γενόμενον
ADEIMANTOS: until we-being-( my hand in
your hair )-doing-making-( her hand
in my hair )-go everywhere, in-
( and well-behaved )-around
her ( Oceans ) katalogue
of ships,
SOKRATES: whether around(about)many ships(boats)(schooners)(about schooner Adventuress)(her piece of my heart),
(and other schooners)(skiffs)(sloops)(brigantines)(clippers)(galleys)(barges)(junks)(dinghies)(trawlers)(pinkies)(coracles)(curragh)(riverboats)(skin boats)(canoes canoes canoes)(tankers)(cruise-ships)(booms)(zaruk)(catamaran)(trimaran)(punt)(sampan)(dhow)(lembi)(kubaea)(moneres)(phaseli)(picatos)(fuchuan)(shachuan)(zheng)(haichuan)(wupeng boat)(dragon boat)(lorcha)(zhiyuan)(mengchong)(aral boat)(pirogue)(curiara)(montaria)(uba)(igarite)(igarape canoe)(jangada)(peque-peque)(yate)(chata)(totora boat)(tula boat)(balsa)(qaya)(caballito de totora)(dalca)(wampo)(bongui)(tomako)(tepuke)(mon)(tavala)(tanga)(yagan canoe)(kawesqar canoe)(guato canoe)(ningher)(narangga canoe)(yuki)(yari)(warrigal canoe)(torres strait canoe)(nawi)(nardan)(tied-bark canoe)(stitched-bark canoe)(reed-bundle canoe)(bark raft)(onu)(kirkkovene)(soutuvene)(savolaisvene)(tervavene)(haapio)(ruuhi)(uisko)(kokka)(kalavene)(verkkovene)(saaristovene)(paijannevene)(jokivene)(purjevene)(ladoga boat)(pomor koch)(jalboot)(shasha)(odam)(strug)(lodja)(sajka)(pinasse)(baris)(solar barque)(khufu ship)(lagoon canoe)(niger canoe)(donkua)(ali poli)(kodoo)(gaal)(fante canoe)(ewe canoe)(ugbo)(oko)(kru canoe)(sierra leone canoe)(liberian canoe)(akuafo canoe)(canoes canoes canoes)(monoxyle)(gomon)(karbas)(baidarka)(tarada)(keleks)(mashoof)(guffa)(guzar)(qayiq)(kayik)(amudarya boat)(oxus boat)(tartane)(vectoriae)(corbitae)(actuariae)(naves longae)(naves onerariae)(naves lusoriae)(hippagoga)(lembus)(caique)(celox)(caravels)(carracks)(scaphas)(pristis)(wasen)(yamato-bune)(tarai-bune)(takase-bune)(higaki-kaisen)(sengokubune)(bezaisen)(kitamaebune)(atakebune)(sekibune)(kobaya)(kobune)(watasebune)(yakatabune)(sabani)(tenmasen)(holk)(gauloi)(kerkouroi)(hippoi)(myoparo)(cercurus)(galleons)(cogs)(longships)(triakontoroi)(pentekontoroi)(hemioliai)(trihemioliai)(drakkars)(knarrs)(byrthings)(birlinns)(dromons)(biremes)(triremes)(quadriremes)(quinqueremes)(sexiremes)(septiremes)(dekeres)(enneres)(octeres)(hepteres)(hexaremes)(penteres)(liburnae)(hanseon)(panokseon)(geobukseon)(choma-seon)(pyeongjeoseon)(gwanggo)(tongsin-seon)(xebec)(fluyt)(hoys)(yawls)(ketches)(cutters)(snekkja)(sloops-of-war)(skeid)(karfi)(brigs)(barques)(barks)(windjammers)(barquentine)(tugboats)(motorboats)(houseboats)(ferries)(flatboats)(keelboats)(gondolas)(bateaux)(yachts)(vaka)(va a)(waka)(wa a)(waka ama)(waka tiwai)(waka taua)(waka hourua)(mokihi)(va a alo)(va a-tele)(kalia)(alia)(tongiaki)(amatasi)(pahi)(tipaerui)(niu)(kiato)(langskip)(faering)(sixareen)(drua)(ndrua)(takia)(tuilakeba)(camakau)(bilibili)(masawa)(wa)(sakman)(baurua)(walap)(wa a kaulua)(wa a ama)(wa a ulu)(opu)(holua)(iqyax)(chinook canoe)(haida canoe)(canoes canoes canoes)(tlingit canoe)(tsimshian canoe)(salish canoe)(makah canoe)(nuu-chah-nulth canoe)(shovel-nose canoe)(birchbark canoe)(elm-bark canoe)(algonquin canoe)(anishinaabe canoe)(ojibwe canoe)(mi kmaq canoe)(wabanaki canoe)(haudenosaunee canoe)(djong)(bajak)(golek-golek)(mayang)(kletok)(prahu mayang)(lancang)(pencalang)(bedar)(tongkang)(pinisi)(catboats)(dories)(zodiacs)(jukung)(perahu)(sandeq)(padewakang)(paduwant)(kora-kora)(paledang)(pelang)(londe)(pangajava)(bangka)(paraw)(balangay)(baloto)(biray)(karakoa)(lanong)(vinta)(salisipan)(armadahan)(basnigan)(djenging)(cascos)(guilalo)(lepa-lepa)(proa)(falu)(te wa)(penjajap)(kolek)(sakayan)(salambaw)(talaka)(tumbang)(joangan)(parao)(kelulus)(kunlun bo)(knabat bogolu)(lakatoi)(teppa)(gulet)(sambuk)(ngalawa)(mtepe)(jahazi)(mashua)(lakana)(lakana outrigger)(lakan-tsambo)(lakana lehibe)(masikoro canoe)(boutre)(dau)(mtumbwi)(uwambo)(wavuvi)(shahoof)(bagqurah)(baghlah)(huri)(badan)(jalbah)(ghurab)(tarrad)(sanbuk)(ubri)(thalamegos)(kattumaram)(vallam)(uru)(masula)(padagu)(salangu)(oru)(paru)(yathra dhoni)(thoni)(padavu)(vattavada)(bhela)(battal)(kattu-vallam)(snake boat)(vahan)(machwa)(hodi)(dungi)(shikara)(dingi)(donga)(budgerow)(panshi)(balam)(pateli)(nauka)(kotia)(pattamar)(kosha)(datti)(dalla)(ark)(kayak)(umiak)(qajaq)(angyaq)(qayaq)(greenland kayak)(dugout canoes)(outrigger canoes)(bull boats)(tomol)(tule balsa)(tule canoe)(chumash plank canoe)(canoes canoes canoes)(heiltsuk canoe)(cayuco)(piragua)(barca)(txalupa)(chalupa)(taino canoe)(lucayan canoe)(carib canoe)(canoa)(feluccas)(dahabiya)(sandal)(markab)(zarouk)(ghayassa)(papyrus boat)(reed boat)(maadi boat)(kwakwaka wakw canoe) —
ADEIMANTOS: dont forget the Mimi!
SOKRATES: (the voyage of the Mimi)(wouldnt forget),
ADEIMANTOS: and how my(her)great-aunt took me(her)out
and off the bay, on the Rappahannock River,
near Stingray Point, in her brave and much littler
two-person sunfish, brightly across the water,
SOKRATES: (and many-jointed-rafts),
ADEIMANTOS: triples (we)is(being) best!
SOKRATES: (and many other kinds of boats
)(as temple-dwellings)(of youths)(swimming)(spinning)(piling-
up-in-heaps)(o ploughing-up)(the ploughing-up)(of ploughing-
up)(the wake)(it wakes)(the next)(of fallow-lands)(o will-to-be
of youth)(the will-to-being of the young)(of will-to-being of
the youth)(to change)(to renovate)(o change)(o renovation)( o,
o making-young-again)(the temple-dwelling)
(of temple-dwellings),
νόησον γὰρ τοιουτονὶ γενόμενον εἴτε πολλῶν νεῶν πέρι
ADEIMANTOS: as ( we-bringing ) with ( a gentle tug )-boat
back home,
SOKRATES: or(around)about(just)one, ( you
and she and me )
( we-one ),
πέρι εἴτε μιᾶς:
ADEIMANTOS: but (we-)he(-being) even ancienter
( not a new thought ) than the ancient mariner,
SOKRATES: (the)shipowner(to-by-for)(stature-magnitude-
build)even and(indeed)(to-by-for)(bodily-strength, force,
might, vigour, armies, confidence)(being)over
all those in the ship,
ADEIMANTOS: o seaworthy man, yet lost at sea,
SOKRATES: (o one who is unpracticed in the thing),
ADEIMANTOS: but what about she?
SOKRATES: (o river nymph),
ADEIMANTOS: your Venice bitch, your die-hard, your sh(weakness)?
SOKRATES: (she would flow)(she flows),
ADEIMANTOS: but what about me?
SOKRATES: (you would flow)(you flow)(you come
and go)(returning)(to-by-for the ship),
ADEIMANTOS: ( and had she been a Lizzy too )?
SOKRATES: ( she would swim )
ADEIMANTOS: who, she? or me?
SOKRATES: (she swims)(he swims)(it swims)(you swim)
(she would spin)(youd spin)(you spin)(for-by-to
the ship)(youre spun),
ADEIMANTOS: her spinning
her black bathing-suit up?
SOKRATES: (she would pile up)
(a funeral pyre)(she would heap and pile up)
(she heaps and piles up)
ADEIMANTOS: but were ( she-me at least ) still here,
SOKRATES: (next year, next year,
next year),
ADEIMANTOS: a darker paradise?
SOKRATES: (o one who is unpracticed in the thing),
ναύκληρον μεγέθει μὲν καὶ (488β) ῥώμῃ ὑπὲρ τοὺς ἐν τῇ νηὶ πάντας,
ADEIMANTOS: O future-facing-vessel-man,
another norman-fucking-rockwell???
( a resurfaced one ) just be okay,
just take my hand,
SOKRATES: but(the shipowner is)somewhat deaf,
ADEIMANTOS: ( yelling, we ) believe
that people can change,
can you see the flickering
in my ( phrenes ) heart?
SOKRATES: and(indeed)seeing itself-like(but)short(sighted),
and(indeed)recognizing(observing, aware)about
(around)other ship-things of-this-sort,
ὑπόκωφον δὲ καὶ ὁρῶντα ὡσαύτως βραχύ
τι καὶ γιγνώσκοντα περὶ ναυτικῶν ἕτερα τοιαῦτα,
ADEIMANTOS: poor guy, he needs some crazy gal
to help a brother out ( yelling, she ) maybe try
( imagination running wild )
to kiss the sky and whisper to Jesus?
SOKRATES: but the sailors(are)rising in rebellion
toward one-another around(about
kubernesis)steering,
τοὺς δὲ ναύτας στασιάζοντας πρὸς ἀλλήλους περὶ τῆς κυβερνήσεως,
ADEIMANTOS: ( for the things that they hold dear,
each to forget the thing he fears . . . )
but she wouldnt want him to drown again,
maybe ( we-being ) can save him ( so many
steps ahead ) from his ( we cant count ) mens?
SOKRATES: each supposing(it being-necessary)
(to be necessary)(to lack)(to bind)(himself)
to take the helm(o steering)(they were steering)
(the steering)(we were steering)(to steer)(the steering),
ἕκαστον οἰόμενον δεῖν κυβερνᾶν,
ADEIMANTOS: theys a lot of artsy-craftsy sailors . . .
but ( not like its real ) ( not like were really trying )
( not like they really exist ) ( watch me pretend ) ( not like
they really spill ) what (we)is(being) kubernesis, anyway?
SOKRATES: neither(learning ones)(ever yet)learning the(she)art(craft-skill),
nur having-holding to(show-forth)demonstrate(the)teacher of himself,
nar(to demonstrate a)time in which(he)was learning (her),
μήτε μαθόντα πώποτε τὴν τέχνην
μέτε ἔχοντα ἀποδεῖξαι διδάσκαλον ἑαυτοῦ
μηδὲ χρόνον ἐν ᾧ ἐμάνθανεν,
ADEIMANTOS: o calm ( her katabasis ) down,
take a deep breath, baby ( happily distracted
by that thought ) but did you neither
nur learn to spell?
nar pronoun?
SOKRATES: but toward-against those claiming
(its)not(even)to be taught(or learned),
πρὸς δὲ τούτοις φάσκοντας μηδὲ διδακτὸν εἶναι,
ADEIMANTOS: dont look too far,
( we-being ) right where you are,
( my hand in your hair ) ( her hand in my hair),
thats where (we)i(being) (we)am(are),
( triplets-at-she! ),
SOKRATES: but still and(indeed)the saying —
ἀλλὰ καὶ τὸν λέγοντα
ADEIMANTOS: whoopsie-( snip! )-daisy,
SOKRATES: as(its)taught —
ADEIMANTOS: ( snip! ) yoo-hoo,
SOKRATES: (or learned) —
ὡς διδακτὸν
ADEIMANTOS: ( snip! ) did she get it right? ( again ),
SOKRATES: (theyre)ready to cut-into-pieces,
ἑτοίμους κατατέμνειν,
ADEIMANTOS: positively voodoo!
( and did we know exactly
how magical she was ),
and he ( being ) not me ( we-she ) . . .
SOKRATES: but(the)(standing-in-need —
ADEIMANTOS: ( snip! ) now its a ribbon,
SOKRATES: of)(binding —
ADEIMANTOS: ( snip! ) round my neck,
SOKRATES: fettering —
ADEIMANTOS: ( snip! ) and its cherry-colored,
SOKRATES: -tying)selves,
ADEIMANTOS: pink ( snip! ) to hold me to this wheel,
SOKRATES: (to-by-for)the shipowner —
ADEIMANTOS: ( snip! ) we(ive just been)being,
SOKRATES: always him —
ADEIMANTOS: baking ( snip, again! ) waiting on —
SOKRATES: himself,
ADEIMANTOS: nevertheless, having experience
of arts-and-crafts and stoves-hunting-doll-like-things,
SOKRATES: (would be)pouring-crowding —
ADEIMANTOS: or ( snip! ) a spirit hunter,
SOKRATES: around(himself) —
ADEIMANTOS: (we)i(being) ( strange, snip! ) a ghost,
SOKRATES: (the standing —
ADEIMANTOS: greedy he ( yoo-hoo, snip! ) be greedy she,
SOKRATES: in-need —
ADEIMANTOS: it ( snip! ) it doesnt mean
SOKRATES: -of)(binding-fettering —
ADEIMANTOS: (we)i(being) ( snip! ) am feeling nothing,
SOKRATES: -tying-him —
ADEIMANTOS: put it ( snip! tattoo ) on my ass,
SOKRATES: sel-
ADEIMANTOS: go find her pattern then,
SOKRATES: -el-
ADEIMANTOS: sold him on ravelry,
SOKRATES: ve-
αὐτοὺς δὲ ( αὐτῷ ἀεὶ τῷ (488ξ) ναυκλήρῳ ) περικεχύσθαι δεομένους
ADEIMANTOS: these ( we-being ) red ( snip! ) ( rosy-
fingered ) ( bejeweled-mani ) ( peri-pedi-cure,
her bloody shoes ) ( para-purple-
crimson ) ( hollow-
ship ) bottoms,
( she huffs
a cat ),
SOKRATES: ( swiftly-yelling ) selves!)(too many!)(to-
by-for him!)(selves! selves! selves!) —
ADEIMANTOS: (but then)-whoopsie-( no tan-lines summer,
and then )-daisy-( he had to go weave in )-yoo-hoo-
( the loose )-we imagine you do-( ends )!
( outro, playing ukulele ) —
SOKRATES: ( head in hands,
she-being-sirens? ),
ADEIMANTOS: ( color me bloooooo
blooooooo oooooo
blooo oooo oo
bloo oo
ooo
o )
//
from Republic VI
NFR by LDR
etc
VIII.iv. inter-( stickynature )-twined
ADEIMANTOS: for by her nature, she has-and-holds
his proper punishment, a feast; by him,
its to be no slight feat of eating-out.
( did he fix it ? peering-about
with blurry glances )
SOKRATES: but hear, you,
ἄκουε δ᾽
ADEIMANTOS: ( . . . )
SOKRATES: ( but he was hearing )
ἄκουε δ᾽
ADEIMANTOS: ( hearing what? )
SOKRATES: but hear, you(he was hearing)therefore,
the image(likeness, picture, statue, reflection
in the mirror, boo!, representation, semblance,
phantom, imaginary form-shape,
similitude, comparison),
ἄκουε δ᾽ οὖν τῆς εἰκόνος,
ADEIMANTOS: but anyways, always
( there are multiple things ) we hear,
SOKRATES: hear, you, the image,
so that(in that place)yet more
(the flock of wool, the lock of hair),
ἄκουε δ᾽ οὖν τῆς εἰκόνος, ἵν᾽ ἔτι μᾶλλον
ADEIMANTOS: baaa, sheep go,
and cows go moo, in this
place here, and blink
like this ( cow-eyes )
SOKRATES: so that yet more(in that place)
(by timber-trees)(by sheen of metals,
gold, silver, bronze),
ἵν᾽ ἔτι μᾶλλον ἴδῃς
ADEIMANTOS: in this place here,
by many strings, the play-things
of your pretty little lyres,
SOKRATES: hear, you, the image, so that you
would yet more see(and, having-seen,
would know),
ἄκουε δ᾽ οὖν τῆς εἰκόνος, ἵν᾽ ἔτι μᾶλλον ἴδῃς
ADEIMANTOS: knowing by a lie? er,
( happening simultaneously )
not we, no no,
SOKRATES: how sticky(glutinous, clammy, close-
sticking, greedy-grasping, tough-importunate-
clinging, penurious-niggardly, mean-shabby, scantily,
and yet carefully, with elaborate-detail)
(we)make-likeness-images.
ἄκουε δ᾽ οὖν τῆς εἰκόνος, ἵν᾽ ἔτι μᾶλλον ἴδῃς ὡς γλίσχρως εἰκάζω.
ADEIMANTOS: does anyone have acetone?
somethings stuck to me like superglue.
SOKRATES: for so hard(difficult-hard-harsh, painful,
grievous, like an ill-fitting cuirass, irksome, rugged,
cruel, stern, dangerous and troublesome),
ADEIMANTOS: ( is ) ( his poetry ) but still
its ( not cause and effect ) inherently,
SOKRATES: the pathos(that-which-happens-to
a person or a thing, their experiences, misfortunes,
calamities, emotions, sufferings, undergoings, passions,
states and conditions, incidents, properties
and qualities)(o pathology of pathos),
ADEIMANTOS: ( not really ) ( of ) and yet ( accustoms-to ),
SOKRATES: the most-fitting-meet-suitable(reasonable-
specious, tolerable, fair-equitable, but not according to
the letter of the law, able, capable, upper-educated,
fairly-tolerably-moderately, most-fitting)(ones),
οὕτω γὰρ χαλεπὸν τὸ πάθος τῶν ἐπιεικεστάτων,
ADEIMANTOS: and exercizes their twisting nature,
SOKRATES: (and)he(they)have(the passion)suffered,
ADEIMANTOS: ( he + he =/= we,
he adjusts my grammar to say,
it pops like spinal cavitation )
SOKRATES: in-relation-to(towards, upon, against,
touching, over-and-above, in-reply-to, in-consequence-
of, in-proportion or in-respect-of, in-comparison-with,
between, according-to, in-view-of, under-compulsion-
of, in-spite-of, before)
the(she)cities,
(they were going about, ranging over, haunting, revolving,
ploughing, turning-up)(the she-cities),
ὃ πρὸς τὰς πόλεις πεπόνθασιν,
ADEIMANTOS: that not self-sung ( but intertwined ) the him in me,
SOKRATES: that not even(are)is(we)one-we,
( but one = one-we? )
ὥστε οὐδ᾽ ἔστιν ἓν
ADEIMANTOS: nor is her-we too ( entangled ) with his-me
( his special snowflake son ),
SOKRATES: nor(is there an)other suffering of this sort,
οὐδὲν ἄλλο τοιοῦτον πεπονθός,
ADEIMANTOS: but still, he-being ( woven and blurring together ) in me,
SOKRATES: but still, it(-he stands-in-need-of)(you stand-
in-need-of)(stand-in-need-of, you!)(bind, you!)(you bind)
(he binds)(to-by-for Zeus)(it)s necessary,
ADEIMANTOS: to separate himself from myself,
SOKRATES: from many representations(o representings,
image-likenings, portrayings, comparings, describings,
resemblings, conjecture-formings),
ADEIMANTOS: the manly-many ( and whenever
we pull the thread ) its hims-in-me,
SOKRATES: to(lead-fetch)bring-by-gathering(him)self-together,
ἀλλὰ δεῖ ἐκ πολλῶν αὐτὸ συναγαγεῖν εἰκάζοντα
ADEIMANTOS: by psycho-mimetic ( to try
and gently untangle ) chiasmorganic( ! )geometry,
or a subtle spiders sticky silken thread,
SOKRATES: and(indeed)defense-speaking(making-
doing-apologia)over(in-defense-of)(her-
and him- and it)selves(too),
καὶ ἀπολογούμενον ὑπὲρ αὐτῶν,
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed, defending this-she ( we find
another knot ) made by ( a god? a poet? ) you?
SOKRATES: such as those writers(o writers, o painters,
o scribes, scriveners, copyists)(you are scratched-grazed
)(of writings, paintings, drawings, delineations, outlines,
embroidery, letters, documents, books, laws,
statements, contracts, catalogues, lists, inscriptions,
writings, such as, of)goat-stags,
(a tragelaphos, from tragos + elaphos, fantastical animal,
and drinking-cups upon-which they were scratched, and
whosits and whatsisnames, which later would name
real animals, a wild goat or an antelope,
but how would he know that?),
οἷον οἱ γραφῆς τραγελάφους
ADEIMANTOS: its like he glued himself
( and another ) ( me )
onto the cutest semi-feral cat
( Sri Rejeki, that u? ),
SOKRATES: and(indeed, the mixings-joinings)(they scratch
and graze)(they would be scratched and grazed)
(to-)by(-for)(the ones)writing(scratching, grazing)
(marking)(representing)(drawing)(painting)(description),
(they write)(they would be written)those
(o she-dyads)of-this-sort,
καὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα μειγνύντες γράφουσιν.
ADEIMANTOS: self-scratching ( endlessly )
( and self-sticking, pink like bubblegum,
and self-stretching too ) ( hmm ) ( ooh )
into the nature of his so-called self.
//
from Republic VI
VIII.iii. ( beauty-calling the ) distance away
ADEIMANTOS: O goddess, have you seen
the first thing about justice? does she resemble
the stringing of a bow? the tuning of a lyre?
what may she have to do with strangers?
HERA: so(the other)owed(was obliged)(owe, you,
to)(the)other, to be dear(obliged, pleasing, gratified)
(to-by-for the)blessed gods (they were running)
(by runnings)( they were shining )(by shinings)
(by gazings, blessed gods),
ὡς ὄφελ᾽ ἄλλο θεοῖσι χαρίζεσθαι μακάρεσσι.
ADEIMANTOS: ( so drawing lots ) they fall asleep
( and lots of dreams and ) holding you
( perchance to be ) other-seen?
SOKRATES: well(they)would,
εἶεν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( taking rest ) near where her fears live,
( but far away from she ) their secret whisperings,
and ( beauty-calling ) she hears and holds,
with a daimonic in-between?
SOKRATES: well would(they)be, (o saying)(the saying)
(say, you!)(they say)(we say)(the saying),
εἶεν, εἶπον:
ADEIMANTOS: but would they be well ( hoping
the distance away ) ( of a rainbow ) ( or a bow drill )
(o saying)(the saying)(they say)(we say)(the word-
song)(saying)?
SOKRATES: (are you)mocking(and making-fun of)me,
throwing me into(a)logos(word-speech-account
)(thats)so hard to demonstrate?
(δυσαπόδεικτον or dusapodeikton
= dus + apo + deiknumi
= hard-bad-unlucky + away-from-off-and-back-
again-by-way-of-abuse + to show)
σκώπτεις ἐμβεβληκώς με εἰς λόγον οὕτω δυσαπόδεικτον;
ADEIMANTOS: but no, O Sokrates, it strings like silk
because it hangs on trust. ( they wake up with
we-being holding she ) a demonstration
(to-by-for) she ( has and holds
a logos of other-justice,
a beloved story,
as ) herself.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
the Delphiad VIII.i ( katabasis of ) plums & ii. afternoon nap ( nap master )
i. ( katabasis of ) plums
ADEIMANTOS: this wind is never late. whether today,
whether yesterday, whether tomorrow. but when she blew,
SOKRATES: down(we)went(and came)(they came)(and went)(against-
over-through)(downwind, leeward)(in accordance with, in relation
to)(descended)(dismounted)(downstairs)(from horseback)(from
a chariot)(from inland to the sea)(into the scene
of contest)(from the tribune)(down to Hades)(we-they die,
set, cease)(so they and we)(attained
our end)yesterday,
(327α) κατέβην χθὲς
ADEIMANTOS: not this time to Hades; but where-to?
SOKRATES: to(the)Peiraius(which, for strangers,
on the open spaces,
was the famous harbor of Athens),
εἰς Πειραιᾶ
ADEIMANTOS: and you didnt go alone; how and who was guiding you?
SOKRATES: with(among-between)Glaukon(gleaming-gray-blue-
eyes-pine-cone)of Ariston(the best)(breakfast-brunch),
(we-he)(intending to be)offering(-through)prayers(and vows),
μετὰ Γλαύκωνος τοῦ Ἀρίστωνος προσευξόμενός
ADEIMANTOS: and not because they forced you to; but why?
SOKRATES: and(to-by-for)the god(he would behold with wonder),
τε τῇ θεῷ
ADEIMANTOS: something youd never seen before; but what?
SOKRATES: and(indeed)at the same time, wishing to behold(
observe, watch, gaze at)who-which-what turn(direction, way,
manner, fashion, guise, habit, custom, character,
temper, mode, manner, style)(they would)(will)make-
and-do(by making-doing-poetry)the festival
(feast-holiday),
καὶ ἅμα τὴν ἑορτὴν βουλόμενος θεάσασθαι τίνα τρόπον ποιήσουσιν
ADEIMANTOS: the festival; shes who?
SOKRATES: (she)who(just as, as if, so as, inasmuch as, seeing that
)now(presently)(her hims would be)leading(carrying-off, fetching,
bringing, guiding, drawing-out, holding, celebrating, keeping,
observing, sustaining, maintaining, holding-account,
treating, drawing-down and ripening
his)first,
ἅτε νῦν πρῶτον ἄγοντες.
ADEIMANTOS: his first pupil, his first
mate, first-second-self, just so
( the plums are getting colour )
but did he do it for the fruit,
MEDEIS: and(even indeed, o month, o moon)we saw
(they saw)Sisuphos(o pain-dyad)(o pains, of body, of mind,
of grief, of heartache, everything that causes pain)suffering
pain(he was suffering, smarting with pain, being ill, suffering
hardship, grieving, mental anguish)(in pain)having-
and-holding(bearing, carrying, bringing-
along)pain(Sisuphos),
καὶ μὴν Σίσυφον εἰσεῖδον κρατέρ᾽ ἄλγε᾽ ἔχοντα
ADEIMANTOS: or did he do it (to-by-for) itself,
MEDEIS: (o mighty-monstrous-prodigious-humongous thing)
(monstrous)(to behold)(look-upon)(to seize-hold)the stone,
lifting-up(exalting, ennobling)(the bearing, carrying)(of holding
in his hands)(considering, weighing, deliberating-on
the bearing, enduring)(the produce, yield, of earths
)(of carrying-off)(taking-away)the mighty(painful)monster
(of pain)prodigious(ly painful)humongous(pains
)(o dyad-pain),
λᾶαν βαστάζοντα πελώριον
ADEIMANTOS: or did he do it (to-by-for) we-being,
MEDEIS: (to-by-for)(partaking of)both(together, towards
both sides, both ways, from and on both sides)(one with
another),
ἀμφοτέρῃσιν.
ADEIMANTOS: (to-by-for) some kind of harmony,
MEDEIS: we were(or)(eh?)(in truth)(he was saying)(to-
by-for)you(look,
you), (even-indeed)supporting
(by pressing, leaning, applying
his weight)(to-by-for)both hands(arms)(acts)(deeds)(blows)(violent
measures)(handiwork)and(to-by-for)feet(the lower corners of
the sail, the ropes fastened therelo, the sheets)(haul it tight
or let it go)(the rudder or steering-paddle)(feet
in prosody, phrases and passages, breath-
by-breath),
595 ἦ τοι ὁ μὲν σκηριπτόμενος χερσίν τε ποσίν τε
ADEIMANTOS: so even when it seems crazy,
MEDEIS: (foolish-dyad)(silly, witless)(to behold)(look-upon)
(to seize-hold)the stone(we would accomplish, finish)
(moving upwards)(from Hades)(back)(up from the Piraeus)(silly,
witless)(dyad-foolish, he)was pushing(thrusting, throwing, rushing)
toward the crest of the hill(ridge)(back of the horses neck,
its withers, under-yoke)(spine of a helmet)(crest of a cockatiel)
(cockscomb)(silly, witless)(dyad-foolish),
λᾶαν ἄνω ὤθεσκε ποτὶ λόφον:
ADEIMANTOS: until we laugh
( when ) ( fall is falling on me )
until we cry, until we die,
until we dance,
SOKRATES: but still(otherwise, o others, o she-others,
o he-other, o she-dyad)(other she-dyad, other shes
and its)(the other its, the other she-dyad)(to-by-for
the other-she),
ἀλλ᾽,
ADEIMANTOS: but blues dont leave other blues behind,
SOKRATES: but if(they-others are)(the other is)
(we are)(see there!)(we say)(we)i(being),
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
ADEIMANTOS: for blues we need a public school,
SOKRATES: (to-by-for)such(things)as these(flowing-forsaken-
flowings)being(accomplished fulfilled)completed —
(to-by-for)education(o educations, child-rearings, trainings,
teachings, learnings, cultures of trees, twisted handiworks
of Egypt, ropes of papyrus, etc, all thats taught and learned,
arts, sciences)(rearing of a child), and(indeed, to-by-for)growth
(age, generation)(o generations)(you will be young, the prime
of life), there-and-then — (and)not alone(solitary, the only,
forsaken, unique)(you wouldnt make solitary)
(you dont make solitary),
would(you)(yes, you)turn-over(transfer, bequeath, commit,
entrust-to, rely-upon, leave)the(she)city(to these,
beings-completed by education
and by growth,
not complete as left-
alone)?
( τελειωθεῖσι τοῖς τοιούτοις παιδείᾳ τε καὶ ἡλικίᾳ ἆρα οὐ μόνοις )
ἂν τὴν πόλιν ἐπιτρέποις;
ADEIMANTOS: we would if you would, you beautiful maniac,
writing curses such as these, whose secret Pythagorean number-
being Kirkes merkin, o hello children,
MEDEIS: but still when(ever)(it)(would be about to)(likely to)
(destined)(to throw-over)(run beyond)(outstrip or pass)(overpower)
(go beyond, exceed)(delay longer)(exceed the time)
(overbid)(outbid)(go on further-and-further)(bidding more-
and-more)(pass-over)(cross-over mountains, rivers, surmounting
)(double the headland)(runnover, overflow, of rivers,
of a star, getting hot, and hotter)
(o mountain-top)(the peak)
(topmost)(the farthest-
ADEIMANTOS: — ( o how are we hyper-perfectionist-procrastinators
hyper-perfectionist-sleepers-and-dreamers
but we also are the laziest of beekeepers
always let the boss-do-work himself ) —
MEDEIA: edge)(about to)(nightfall)(will-consummate)
(the end)(higher)(extremity)(likely to, )(the highest-pitch,
is)destined, (the pride)(the greatest)(height,
extreme)(the peak —
ἀλλ᾽ ὅτε μέλλοι ἄκρον ὑπερβαλέειν,
ADEIMANTOS: when we would reach out for the sun,
MEDEIS: )then, it would turn back(in flight)(turn back to flight)
(send home again)(all the way to Hades)(twisting back
the hands)(and feet)(so as to tie them)(back-again)(back-
wards)(to-by-for the)mighty-weight(mother of Skulla)(back-
again)(backwards)(the Mighty-
one)(the mighty-weight),
τότ᾽ ἀποστρέψασκε κραταιίς:
ADEIMANTOS: and then be seized by cursed fate,
MEDEIS: back again, anew, hereafter, in turn, thereupon, there-
after, then, what follows, to the ground, earthwards, down,
to the bottom(the shameless)(ruthless)(reckless)(greedy)(lost)
(no sense of decency)(careless)(insatiate)(stupid)
(stone)was rolling round-and-round, revolving, rolling-whirling-
down, wallowing down, much-talked-of, mouth-to-mouth,
and round-and-round, the stone(you seize and hold)
(you grip)(you behold)(back at the bottom, you
)(look)(back up-upon —
αὖτις ἔπειτα πέδονδε κυλίνδετο λᾶας ἀναιδής.
ADEIMANTOS: all thats been undone ( how many times )
( but this time shes not defeated ) we-being never defeated
( we-being fiber-artists ) ( rippit ) across the sea,
SAILORS: and(indeed, he was)(Adeimantos)(a)fearless prophet.
καὶ ὁ Ἀδείμαντος,
ADEIMANTOS: O Sokrates,
ὦ Σώκρατες,
SAILORS: (he)was saying(declaring, affirming, asserting),
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: to-by-for the Politeia,
ADEIMANTOS: towards(-against-through)(even-indeed)
these(things), (we-being)(to-by-for)you, such as nobody
would(thats you-know-who)(he was permitting, allowing,
letting be)(let be, you)speak against(gainsay, contradict,
in-reply-to)(in questioning)(in dispute),
πρὸς μὲν ταῦτά σοι οὐδεὶς ἂν οἷός τ᾽ εἴη ἀντειπεῖν.
SOKRATES: seems such as he :P
ADEIMANTOS: for, but still, the(men)hearing something such as this
(will be)affected(influenced, by passion or feeling, come-to-be in
a certain state of mind, suffer)(to-by-for suffering)each time(
the she-dyad which, as)now,
(you would)(man-speaking)speak(gather-
recount),
ἀλλὰ γὰρ τοιόνδε τι πάσχουσιν οἱ ἀκούοντες ἑκάστοτε ἃ νῦν λέγεις:
SOKRATES: O least-worst-man-speaking-suffering men,
ADEIMANTOS: (they)lead the way(go before, guide, command, rule, believe, hold)
(you will set the warp in the loom, begin the web)(he was putting
to flight, giving chase)(chase, you!)(o divine)(things divine)(to-by-for
the divine-she)through inexperience(ignorances, want of skill)
(through infinities)of asking(to ask)(questioning, begging)
(to question)(they were questioning)(we were questioning)
(o questioning)(questioning)(the questioning),
ἡγοῦνται δι᾽ ἀπειρίαν τοῦ ἐρωτᾶν
SOKRATES: that sounds like me, to me, at least,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)to separate(to part, determine, distinguish,
choose, reject, decide, give answers, replies, defending)by(from-
under)the logos(word-speech-account),
καὶ ἀποκρίνεσθαι ὑπὸ τοῦ λόγου
SOKRATES: thats the gist,
ADEIMANTOS: by(beside)each question-asked, (a)little(small)bit(
being-mislead, brought from the side, brought round,
brought forward, lead-aside from the way, diverted,
being-influenced, brought-forward, being-introduced,
as witness, being-produced, delivered stealthily, slipped-in),
παρ᾽ ἕκαστον τὸ ἐρώτημα σμικρὸν παραγόμενοι,
SOKRATES: oligen orgen, as often said,
ADEIMANTOS: of the small(little)(ones being)gathered-
together(collected, mustered, strung, hoarded, collected)
at the end(completion, accomplishment, event, issue
)of the speeches(accounts-arguments-reckonings)(they
and we were fond of talking)(o being-fond-of)(being-
fond-of)(speeches-accounts)(introducing)(to introduce)great
(big, vast, high, full-grown, mighty, strong)the failure(oops,
a trip, stumble, fault, error, false-step)(we would be thrown-off
)(be thrown, you)(he was thrown off the horse),
ἁθροισθέντων τῶν σμικρῶν ἐπὶ τελευτῆς τῶν λόγων μέγα τὸ σφάλμα
SOKRATES: myself more like a stingray fish, but please continue,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)to be shown-forth(brought-to-light,
produced, made-known, made-to-blaze, displayed,
as)opposite(contrary, reverse)(to-by-for)the first
(earlier, destined)(accounts),
καὶ ἐναντίον τοῖς πρώτοις ἀναφαίνεσθαι,
SOKRATES: oopsie, maybe the logos slipped,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)even as by(from-under)(such as)
the(round-mystic-vessels)deinos(terrible, marvellously clever,
wondrously strange, powerful)(ones)(they were exaggerating
)(we were exaggerating)(to exaggerate)(the men)(will be
in dire straits)(at)playing(some game like gamblers)checkers,
καὶ ὥσπερ ὑπὸ τῶν πεττεύειν δεινῶν
SOKRATES: dont they like checkers?
ADEIMANTOS: those(men)shut(off)out(excluded-from, inter-
cepted, barred)(and)not finishing(accomplishing, fulfilling),
οἱ μὴ τελευτῶντες ἀποκλείονται
SOKRATES: those poor men. surely youve heard, its really hard,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)dont have-and-hold(bear-carry-
bring)(by having-and-holding)(by bearing-carrying-bringing
)that(they would)(bear, carry, endure, suffer, admit, offer,
present, produce, pay due, carry off, as a prize, and win)
(what was his destiny, his fate),
καὶ οὐκ ἔχουσιν ὅτι (487ξ) φέρωσιν,
SOKRATES: o lovers of carrying prizes, the men of whom you speak,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)in this way those(men)finishing(
accomplishing, fulfiling, bringing-to-pass)(are)shut(off
)out(excluded-from, intercepted, barred),
οὕτω καὶ σφεῖς τελευτῶντες ἀποκλείεσθαι
SOKRATES: from a room of their own,
ADEIMANTOS: and(indeed)dont have-and-hold that(they would)speak(
recount, gather, pick-up)again(and in turn)by(from-
under)this(some)other(she)(gamblers)checkers
(bow wow)(that bitch),
καὶ οὐκ ἔχειν ὅτι λέγωσιν ὑπὸ πεττείας αὖ ταύτης τινὸς ἑτέρας,
SOKRATES: boo hoo cat poo,
ADEIMANTOS: not in small round stones(pebbles, counters,
gems, abacus, used for divination, voting),
οὐκ ἐν ψήφοις
SOKRATES: be Sylvia Plath, be Nina Simone,
o best of men, go ( and come and ) be unknown,
ADEIMANTOS: but still in words(speeches-arguments-accounts),
ἀλλ᾽ ἐν λόγοις:
SOKRATES: but when they lack the stones for silence,
then they try me,
ADEIMANTOS: since(o dyad-word-song)(you approach)(the dyad-
word-song)(you are)(to-by-for word-song),
the true(unconcealed)(truly-unconcealedly)at least
(does)nt-at-all have-and-hold some very(flock of wool
or lock of hair)(the true-unconcealed)(to-by-for)this(-she),
ἐπεὶ τό γε ἀληθὲς οὐδέν τι μᾶλλον ταύτῃ ἔχειν.
SOKRATES: o lack of imagination, its their favorite remedy.
maybe try to hemlock this-she,
ADEIMANTOS: but(we)speak(gather-recount)looking steadfastly
(gazing, regarding, paying attention-to, looking-upon)
(you regard steadfastly)the(we-)being-present,
λέγω δ᾽ εἰς τὸ παρὸν ἀποβλέψας.
SOKRATES: then look steadfastly at me,
( hi. we mean, hello. man, here! )
ADEIMANTOS: for now, somebody would say, someone even
(indeed)(does)nt have-and-hold(to-by-for)your(we-)word(speech-
argument-account)to oppose(set-oneself-against, withstand),
according(through)each questioning(asking),
νῦν γὰρ φαίη ἄν τίς σοι λόγῳ μὲν οὐκ ἔχειν καθ᾽ ἕκαστον τὸ ἐρωτώμενον ἐναντιοῦσθαι,
SOKRATES: we say to somebody ( o insufferable he ) we have-and-hold
(to-by-for)nobody ( he seems to be mc ),
ADEIMANTOS: but(to-by-for the)deed(work, act)to see,
ἔργῳ δὲ ὁρᾶν,
SOKRATES: the deed-work-act was done(to-by-for)little-old-me.
and why cant they just be happy for a feast?
ADEIMANTOS: as many(men)as(are)starting-out(setting-
in-motion, spurring-on, cheering-on, beginning, rushing-headlong)
at philosophy(wisdom-love), (are)not fastening(himselves to it,
not binding himselves, cleaving himselves, to it)(not laying-hold-
of it, seizing it, clasping it, for himself to be clasped, seized, laid-
hold-of, catching-fire by it), (and not)on account of(for the sake
of)(it, being)educated(brought-up, reared, trained, taught,
nurtured, corrected, disciplined,
as a child),
ὅσοι ἂν ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ὁρμήσαντες μὴ τοῦ πεπαιδεῦσθαι ἕνεκα ἁψάμενοι
SOKRATES: so have we been held (to-by-for) man-childs?
ADEIMANTOS: (we)being young(he would swim, he would spin,
he would pile up in heaps, he)would(wish to)be set free(delivered-
from, released, escaped, acquitted, removed, departed-from),
νέοι ὄντες (487δ) ἀπαλλάττωνται,
SOKRATES: my prison cell,
ADEIMANTOS: but still(they would)spend time(in it)longer,
ἀλλὰ μακρότερον ἐνδιατρίψωσιν,
SOKRATES: conversation,
ADEIMANTOS: even(indeed)and most becoming wholly otherly(
unusual, strange, portentous, utterly different, queer),
τοὺς μὲν πλείστους καὶ πάνυ ἀλλοκότους γιγνομένους,
SOKRATES: elephants-in-elephants, teachings of trees,
to-by-for the beach dog — rawrr — so cuddly,
ADEIMANTOS: so that(we)wouldnt say thoroughly depraved,
ἵνα μὴ παμπονήρους εἴπωμεν,
SOKRATES: we would say well-born,
ADEIMANTOS: but the(ones)seeming(to be)(furnishing
with rafters)(the)most fitting(meet-suitable)likewise(
are)suffering this, at least, by(from-under)the pursuit(
business-custom)which you praise(approve, commend),
τοὺς δ᾽ ἐπιεικεστάτους δοκοῦντας ὅμως τοῦτό γε
ὑπὸ τοῦ ἐπιτηδεύματος οὗ σὺ ἐπαινεῖς πάσχοντας,
SOKRATES: slander, coercion, abuse,
a regular Kerberos, eh Herakles?
ADEIMANTOS: becoming useless(unprofitable, unserviceable)(to-
by-for)the cities,
ἀχρήστους ταῖς πόλεσι γιγνομένους.
SOKRATES: nevertheless becoming nobodies,
MEDEIS: )nevertheless, he at least, back again, in return, thrusted(
pushed)(forced-back)(stretching)(bending)(exerting)straining,
αὐτὰρ ὅ γ᾽ ἂψ ὤσασκε τιταινόμενος,
ADEIMANTOS: we-being ( completely ) me again,
SOKRATES: and(indeed we)i(being)hearing(you hear)
(of involuntarily-silent ones,
from one involuntarily-silent),
καὶ ἐγὼ ἀκούσας,
ADEIMANTOS: but we-being reborn your man,
SOKRATES: (do)you really suppose(forebode, presage, expect,
suspect)(he was alone)(he is alone)
(you are alone)
(be alone,
you),
οἴει οὖν,
ADEIMANTOS: maybe not, but how would we, we-being-seeing, know?
SOKRATES: (o saying)(we say)(they say)(say, you)(saying)(the word-song),
εἶπον,
ADEIMANTOS: but even a chatbot could copy that,
SOKRATES: (do you really suppose)the(men)saying these(things
to be)false(speaking-playing false, beguiled, cheated, mistaken)?
τοὺς ταῦτα λέγοντας ψεύδεσθαι;
ADEIMANTOS: no, but —
MEDEIS: but(against)through(you sweat)(youre drenched
with sweat, the)sweat(y sweaty sweat)(exuding sweat
from trees)(gum, resin)was gushing(flowing, running, streaming,
full-flow)(a leaking ship)(flux)(pouring)(to go slowly)
(to limp)(to go or come to harm)(to ruin)(perish,
disappear, lost)(clean gone),
κατὰ δ᾽ ἱδρὼς 600 ἔρρεεν
ADEIMANTOS: ( sighs into the sweat )
MEDEIS: out(of cups)of limbs(idle, useless, unhappy, miserable)
(in vain)(limbs, body-members)(from musical-members,
phrases, songs, strains)(from a nightingales)
(hims)(however many hymns),
ἐκ μελέων,
ADEIMANTOS: its a lot of hims ( but taking baby
steps ) what about these sailors?
SAILORS: (we)dont know, (we)(o swelling-puffiness-tumors)
(havent seen)(the swelling-puffiness-tumors),
οὐκ οἶδα,
ADEIMANTOS: but(we are)(or)(eh!)(truly)(beingly)he was saying(he was he),
ἦ δ᾽ ὅς,
SOKRATES: we-being not a tumor ( but maybe a Cancer ),
ADEIMANTOS: but still the opinion(thinking, imagining,
supposition, expectation, purpose, pretending, presaging,
seeming, self-seeming)(to-by-for)you,
ἀλλὰ τὸ σοὶ δοκοῦν
SOKRATES: he looks like three girls in sparkly-pink bathing-suits,
concealed inside a trenchcoat, the shape of a manly sailor,
with at least three fish tails poking out, and a false mustache,
but you wont find this golden tan on instagram,
ADEIMANTOS: (o expecting)(we were expecting)
(they were expecting)(the expecting),
δοκοῦν
SOKRATES: the sum and substance of western civ,
ADEIMANTOS: (o furnishing)(they were furnishing with rafters)
(we were furnishing with rafters)(to furnish with rafters)
(rafter-furnishing),
δοκοῦν
SOKRATES: make-find good stranger an un-dying friend,
ADEIMANTOS: (fancy)with pleasure,
ἡδέως
SOKRATES: a vegan brownie to share with you,
ADEIMANTOS: but still(how it)(in general)seems to you,
with pleasure(we)would hear,
ἀλλὰ τὸ σοὶ δοκοῦν ἡδέως ἂν ἀκούοιμι.
SOKRATES: it seems —
MEDEIS: but(o dust)(o sand)ashes(o pearl-ash, lye, soap-powder)
(quicklime)(plaster, stucco)(dusty)(it was plastering with stucco,
daubing over)(painting, disguising)(plaster over, you)
from the strength(might-power-master-victory)(the ten)
(of the she-head)had stirred-up(urged-on, called-forth, excited),
κονίη δ᾽ ἐκ κρατὸς ὀρώρει.
ADEIMANTOS: ( mouth full of ashes )
SOKRATES: you would hear, that(to-by-for)me, at least,
they(dyad-unconcealed)appear to speak(gather, recount)the(dyad-)truth
(he wanders, he roams, outcast, banished,
perplexed)(dyad-unconcealed),
ἀκούοις ἂν ὅτι ἔμοιγε φαίνονται τἀληθῆ λέγειν. (487ε)
ADEIMANTOS: ( vomits )
MEDEIS: but after(in the middle of)(o vomiting)(o vomited)(behind)him,
we perceived the body-strength(force, act of violence)
(they were constraining, forcing, pressing hard)(to force)
(we were driving, forcing-on)of Herakles(loadstone),
ADEIMANTOS: towards a plan ( but
was it his own ) ( and how? )
MEDEIS: the image(phantom, unsubstantial form, reflected-
off the mind, idea, likeness, constellation, the idol)(of Herakles),
τὸν δὲ μετ᾽ εἰσενόησα βίην Ἡρακληείην,
εἴδωλον:
ADEIMANTOS: ( maybe in ways ) not spoken out loud.
SAILORS: how(in what way, by any means, in any way, at all)(really)therefore,
πῶς οὖν,
ADEIMANTOS: (how)(was he saying)(what?)(he)was saying,
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: not spoken out loud?
ADEIMANTOS: (how, therefore, )does it have-and-hold-well
(viper-dyad)(to-by-for the viper)(youre-next-to, clinging-to,
following-closely, coming-next, being-had-and-held)
(sticky)(he was pouring)(to recount, to gather)to say,
εὖ ἔχει λέγειν
SOKRATES: (yelling) not spoken out loud!!!
ADEIMANTOS: (how does it have-and-hold-well to say)
that the(wicked)she-cities will not stop mistreating(spoiling,
afflicting, injuring, ruining, the)earlier(first),
(they were mistreating)(we were mistreating)(the earlier-
former)(you-shes were ranging-over)(ploughing-haunting)
(as the manly-many)(were ruining)
(the she-cities)
ὅτι οὐ πρότερον κακῶν παύσονται αἱ πόλεις,
SOKRATES: by him having-and-holding
them(the she-cities)as you-yourself
are had-and-held ( thats how ),
ADEIMANTOS: until in herselves(to-by-for herselves)
the(philosophers)wisdom-lovers
(he would love wisdom)(would begin, make a beginning of,
strike the first blow, govern, be leader of, command,
would)rule,
πρὶν ἂν ἐν αὐταῖς οἱ φιλόσοφοι ἄρξωσιν,
SOKRATES: so demonstrate(by you)(by my)(by it)
self-rule, she ruling them,
ADEIMANTOS: (those)whom useless(unprofitable, unserviceable)
(we were)agreeing(to-by-for)her(city)selves(we(to-be)are)?
οὓς ἀχρήστους ὁμολογοῦμεν αὐταῖς εἶναι;
SOKRATES: by the ship, and indeed,
let your-himself be used by we.
//
afternoon nap
ADEIMANTOS: so we-being agreed.
MEDEIS: but himself after(among)immortals
(he would make immortal)(they make immortal)
(to-by-for makings-immortal)(they run)(by running,
they shine, by shining, by gazing,
immortal)gods,
αὐτὸς δὲ μετ᾽ ἀθανάτοισι θεοῖσι
ADEIMANTOS: as in a dream, he-being-he,
MEDEIS: (he)enjoys(delights himself)in festivals,
abundance(feasts)(you will enjoy yourself
and make merry)and(indeed)(o viper-dyad)has-
and-holds(you have-and-hold-to)(he bears, carries,
brings)(you are brought)(he was pouring)(the viper-
dyad)(to-by-for the viper)beautiful-ankled Hebe(
of youth)(hes young again)(and they were fastened)
(we were bound)(engaged)(undertaken)(prosecuted
vigorously)(handled, touched, grasped, attained,
reached, come-up-to, overtaken, by affect)(they were)
(we are attaining, in the prime of life, fresh, vigorous)
(strength and vigor)(the body)(vine)(divine)(of youth),
τέρπεται ἐν θαλίῃς καὶ ἔχει καλλίσφυρον Ἥβην,
ADEIMANTOS: ( yawns and stretches ) the warmth
of my sweet afternoon nap
( me-being-he ),
MEDEIS: (the)(child, slave, servant)of great(mighty, big,
strong)Zeus(divine)and(indeed)of Hera(nine)gold-sandalled,
παῖδα Διὸς μεγάλοιο καὶ Ἥρης χρυσοπεδίλου.
ADEIMANTOS: ( his amazing aphrodisiac ) lingers
on my skin ( well it would ),
SOKRATES: you(would)(questioning, asking, begging)ask,
ἐρωτᾷς,
ADEIMANTOS: we would just lay our head in your lap,
SOKRATES: (but)(if)(they are, he is, we are, we say)(see,
there!)but(we)i(being),
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
ADEIMANTOS: then yes please, tell me more about myself,
SOKRATES: (you would ask)a question(lacking, missing, binding-
tying, needing-of)(that which is asked), (of a decision-
separating)reply(answer, excretion, secretion, exhalation,
defence, response, embassy, commission, a kind of dance
)speaking(gathering-recounting)through
(a)likeness(image-semblance-similitude),
ἐρώτημα δεόμενον (ἀποκρίσεως δι᾽ εἰκόνος λεγομένης).
ADEIMANTOS: okay then, would we entrust the city to such as these —
MEDEIS: but around him(the)cry(he was baying)(howl, you)
(reverberating twang)(scream)(grunting)(hissing)(screeching)
of the dead(corpses)(spirits)(if)(they are)(he is)(we are)
(we say)(see, there!)were as birds of prey(omens),
605 ἀμφὶ δέ μιν κλαγγὴ νεκύων ἦν οἰωνῶν ὥς,
ADEIMANTOS: of me-being,
MEDEIS: wholly-fear-bewildered.
πάντοσ᾽ ἀτυζομένων:
ADEIMANTOS: ( its terrifying here ) we dive under blankets
to feel that warmth ( that heat ),
SAILORS: but you at least,
σὺ δέ γε,
SOKRATES: as cool as cool could be,
SAILORS: (he)was saying(asserting),
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: as we-harmonic grow, (to-by-for)me, the trees,
ADEIMANTOS: (o song-ways)(we)dont suppose(expect,
presage, forebode)(they would swoop)(they pounce-
upon)(you, at least)(would be swooped-upon)(to-by-for the way
of song)(you, at least)have-been-accustomed to speak
(recount-gather)through images(likenesses-
semblances-similitudes),
οἶμαι οὐκ εἴωθας δι᾽ εἰκόνων λέγειν.
SOKRATES: having-been-accustomed, self-concealing, (by-for-to)we,
MEDEIS: but he, seeming(seemly)like murky(dark-black)night,
ὁ δ᾽ ἐρεμνῇ νυκτὶ ἐοικώς,
ADEIMANTOS: ( not spoken ) plasters myself on me ( like dust ),
MEDEIS: having-holding(his)naked(exposed)(rain)bow
and(indeed)having-holding(bearing-carrying-bringing)
(they were throwing and heaping)(we were throwing
and heaping-up)(an)arrow on the strings,
γυμνὸν τόξον ἔχων καὶ ἐπὶ νευρῆφιν ὀιστόν,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and ashes ) to maximize
the area where skin touches skin ( out loud ),
MEDEIS: (was)peering-about(looking-about
with sharp, searching glances)(wistfully)(seeming-
like)deinos(round-mystical-vessels)(terribly-
awful-horror-marvellously-strong-
wondrous-and-clever),
δεινὸν παπταίνων,
ADEIMANTOS: ( tied to the mast ) and we
dont want to get up ( master that nap ),
MEDEIS: seeming always like(as fitting, seemly, meet)
he will(would)be(like they will strike)throwing(
casting, hurling, striking, shooting, falling, letting
fall)(like they will fall, they will let fall),
αἰεὶ βαλέοντι ἐοικώς.
ADEIMANTOS: but they dont let fall ( until
theyre ripe ) and then
maybe they will —
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic I, VI
Odyssey 11.613-626
the Delphiad, book IV
(NAUSIKAA, HOMER, and AUTOS on the beach, early morning;
the sky is cloudy in shades of pink and violet-grey.)
NAUSIKAA: the nights are getting darker,
and weve been working like a dog,
and like a horse, and like
a woman;
HOMER: but he
would conceal her
(for)by(to)the shining-
radiant shield.
ὃ δέ μιν σάκεϊ κρύπτασκε φαεινῷ.
NAUSIKAA: but somehow at times,
the memories come through,
AUTOS: crossing over(through)it, o Works(hundreds)from-afar,
and Okalee(O beautiful-lady)(of kale)of many(fire-
works)towers(fortresses),
τὸν διαβάς, Ἑκάεργε, καὶ Ὠκαλέην πολύπυργον
NAUSIKAA: and thinking of you,
my heart is lighter;
HOMER: hither which(ones)first(among)Trojans
did blameless Teukros(to make-build-work, to overcome, to pass-
through)(take-hold-grasp-seize)(to-kill-or-to-slay)?
ἔνθα τίνα πρῶτον Τρώων ἕλε Τεῦκρος ἀμύμων;
NAUSIKAA: which brings me to the dream;
AUTOS: thence(came and went)then
(there)into Aliartos(sea-side-sunny-salt-bread)
you arrived at(poetry-poet)rich-in-grass;
ἔνθεν ἄρ᾽ εἰς Ἁλίαρτον ἀφίκεο ποιήεντα.
NAUSIKAA: still here?
(enter APOLLO, ZEUS, and HERA. APOLLO brings a plastic-
woven recliner and puts it on the sand. ZEUS sits and reclines,
wearing sunglasses; as HERA stands by his side; they watch.)
NAUSIKAA: and then some; what sing you, poet?
HOMER: Orsilochos is rousing ambush-raising, bringing-
forth, indeed, the firsts;
NAUSIKAA: well then; lets be the first
to count them in; we say they slay; thats one —
(she calls) come on in, boys!
lets line them up, here;
(ORSILOCHOS the Trojan comes running onto the beach.
As each name is called, a Trojan enters, wearing a handsome
sarung, and no shirt, to stand in a chorus line, on the sand.
They do not appear to be injured from the war.)
HOMER: (adjusts reading-glasses)
and(indeed)Ormenos sets in motion, stirring-up spears of flame,
NAUSIKAA: thats two, obviously hot
HOMER: and Ophelestes, helping the people, making a stand;
NAUSIKAA: we knew an Ophelia once. thats three,
HOMER: and Daitor, who portions a loaf and partakes in a feast;
NAUSIKAA: watch out for him, hes four;
HOMER: and Chromios en-colors his complexion of anointed skin;
NAUSIKAA: wow, five!
HOMER: and(they were dedicating)(they were running against)equal-
to-gods Lukophontes, murderously killing by silver wolflight,
NAUSIKAA: were shivering; hes six!
HOMER: and(indeed)Amopaon, together-companion-if-not-best-friend
NAUSIKAA: everybody gossips about seven,
HOMER: with the son of Poluaemon, of many bloods, an ancient gang,
NAUSIKAA: and bloody eight, fresh off the streets!
HOMER: and(indeed)Melanippos, obsidian Omar on his diamond horse;
Ὀρσίλοχον μὲν πρῶτα καὶ Ὄρμενον ἠδ᾽ Ὀφελέστην
Δαίτορά τε Χρομίον τε καὶ ἀντίθεον Λυκοφόντην
καὶ Πολυαιμονίδην Ἀμοπάονα καὶ Μελάνιππον,
NAUSIKAA: yes, thats Omar; all sent down to Hades town,
and now theyre our best friends; lets hear it
for nine Trojans, slaying!
(the TROJAN PIT CREW applauds for themselves;
HERA applauds, elbowing
Zeus, who has fallen asleep.)
AUTOS: but(he)stepped on Telphousa(marshy-
bog at peak-perfection of nature-
growing-life at-a-distance);
βῆς δ᾽ ἐπὶ Τελφούσης:
NAUSIKAA: and clearly alive;
HOMER: all, one-by-one, (he)caused to touch
(to)by(for)many-nourishing earth(chthonos).
πάντας ἐπασσυτέρους πέλασε χθονὶ πουλυβοτείρῃ.
NAUSIKAA: o lady Hera, arent you impressed?
AUTOS: there(for)by(to)you(this-she)(o satiety, loathing,
weariness)is pleased, (the)place(country-space)(the north-
west-wind)un-harmed(un-hurt, gentle, doing-no-harm)
to make-ready(build-work,
a)temple-dwelling and(indeed)sacred-woody(and with-tree-
like-markings)groves;
τόθι τοι ἅδε χῶρος ἀπήμων
245 τεύξασθαι νηόν τε καὶ ἄλσεα δενδρήεντα:
NAUSIKAA: in other words, lady Hera looks impressed;
HOMER: but seeing him, killing(destroying)(slaying)
from(his)strong bow the Trojan battalions,
the lord of men, (o)Agamemnon
, rejoiced;
τὸν δὲ ἰδὼν γήθησεν ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν Ἀγαμέμνων
τόξου ἄπο κρατεροῦ Τρώων ὀλέκοντα φάλαγγας:
NAUSIKAA: but the west-north-wind trades seeing-kings;
AUTOS: but(you)stood very(underhanded-secretly)near,
NAUSIKAA: he was squeezing-hugging-throttling-chhh,
AUTOS: to(her)self and(indeed)you spoke-through
(to)her the(muthos)story-word;
( στῆς δὲ μάλ᾽ αὐτῆς καὶ μιν πρὸς μῦθον ἔειπες: )
NAUSIKAA: that was the sound of choking.
APOLLO: Telphousa, here(there)(surely-needful-binding)wed be minded
(exercising-understanding-intelligence-feeling-sense-sensibility-thought)
NAUSIKAA: hes good at lists
APOLLO: to make-ready(build-work)(a)roundly-beautiful temple-dwelling
of human beings(and household-useful)-oracle-(chresterion),
NAUSIKAA: didnt you hear me say were choking?
APOLLO: which(for)by(to)me always(there)here(they)will(carry-
lead)bring perfect(full-complete)hekatombs(hundred-
oxen-offerings-from-afar)(to-for-by-tombs),
‘Τελφοῦσ᾽, ἐνθάδε δὴ φρονέω περικαλλέα νηὸν
ἀνθρώπων τεῦξαι χρηστήριον, οἵτε μοι αἰεὶ
ἐνθάδ᾽ ἀγινήσουσι τεληέσσας ἑκατόμβας,
NAUSIKAA: hes being-minded by hekatombs;
APOLLO: and as many as have(hold)(by holding)the fat(plump)Peloponnesus,
and as many as(hold)(fat-plump, romantically-remembered)Europe,
NAUSIKAA: (are those the only places you know?)
APOLLO: and as many as hold the Americas, earth-being-full of earths, North
and rugged South, and as many as hold Asia, fat(plump)mask-famous;
and Africa, surely(indeed)perhaps, its then-and-there to you someday;
and forgetting neither Antarctica, may she(to)by(for)ice-be-held,
nor Australia, of the-dreaming-fame)and(indeed)throughout the sea-
surrounded(oft-forgotten)isles, where wind and sea mix many names,
NAUSIKAA: whereas it minds-me of the cows;
APOLLO: that so many will consult(inquire)(use it)(seek it)(need-
lack and make-use of it)(experience)(suffer)(study)(treat,
entreat, make deals with it);
250 ἠμὲν ὅσοι Πελοπόννησον πίειραν ἔχουσιν
ἠδ᾽ ὅσοι Εὐρώπην τε καὶ ἀμφιρύτας κατὰ νήσους,
χρησόμενοι:
NAUSIKAA: hes being-minded of the milk — wait
a minute, how can he answer all these consultations,
if he doesnt even know all the continents?
hey you know what, we were thinking,
this job seems really large; maybe
we should ask the Pope? this seems
like a Pope-level situation; or like
the Dalai Lama? ah —
(ZEUS, snortling, wakes from nap — )
NAUSIKAA: its your first transmission, o lord —
ZEUS: but(o)Poseidon(he will let go —
he will let flow — he will let throw —
or will you free yourself from —
NAUSIKAA: it sounds pretty garbled —
ZEUS: )his gall(bile — bitter anger — wrath)
NAUSIKAA: but not in a good way —
ZEUS: for(indeed)some(he — alone)wouldnt be able( —
receive, you — the dyad-set-against —
was meeting — or encountering —
or accepted to share the wholes — )
NAUSIKAA: theres a dyad-set-against sharing the wholes
ZEUS: set against(the)will(of)all immortal goddesses —
and gods( — against all immortal seeings —
)to quarrel(contend — compete —
dispute — )alone —
Ποσειδάων δὲ μεθήσει
ὃν χόλον:
οὐ μὲν γὰρ τι δυνήσεται ἀντία πάντων
ἀθανάτων ἀέκητι θεῶν ἐριδαινέμεν οἶος.
NAUSIKAA: which god is it who chokes the god?
(HERA shows her hands to prove innocence.
ZEUS is snoring again.)
APOLLO: (but)and(to)by(for)which(wholes)we(o possession-
by-wholes)proclaiming-oracles(falling-upon-assailing-
attack)would pronounce(delivery-act)judgments
(declare law and right)(of)unerring-absolute purpose
in(a)fat(plump)temple-dwelling.
τοῖσιν δέ κ᾽ ἐγὼ ( νημερτέα βουλὴν )
πᾶσι θεμιστεύοιμι χρέων ἐνὶ πίονι νηῷ.
NAUSIKAA: if you say so, o lord; were glad
its not our responsibility to deal with
the consequences, in case things
go wrong; unless —
AUTOS: so-speaking, Phoibos(shining-radiant-pure)Apollo
arranged(managed, distributed, set-forth, disposed)
the(wide - spacious)foundations(the root-
bed of the eye)(base of the throat)
broad and very(dyad-secretly)tall
(o-all)unbroken(continuous);
ὣς εἰπὼν διέθηκε θεμείλια Φοῖβος Ἀπόλλων
255 εὐρέα καὶ μάλα μακρὰ διηνεκές:
NAUSIKAA: so divine,
he didnt even break a sweat;
and yet, ah —
(ZEUS sits bolt upright; its unclear if hes awake.)
NAUSIKAA: o lord, hither comes-and-goes one more delivery —
ZEUS: but he, at least,
on a raft —
(knocked-up —
OMAR: what
ZEUS: hand-to-hand, off-
hand, temporarily — sketchily —
)of many-joints(chains,
imprisonment, bonds, yoke-
straps, halters, mooring-
cables, knots, and gates —
ἀλλ᾽ ὅ γ᾽ ἐπὶ σχεδίης πολυδέσμου
NAUSIKAA: we see its trying to be this mans wife;
ZEUS: and)suffering many miseries —
(mischiefs —
evils —
pains —
woes —
πήματα πάσχων
NAUSIKAA: we see he struggles
to put suffering into words;
lets help —
ZEUS: )would by the twentieth day approach —
NAUSIKAA: as a beggar and a refugee —
ZEUS: Scheria, who holds-fast her stream —
NAUSIKAA: she-of-large-clods — so fertile! —
ZEUS: in the land of the Phaiakians,
NAUSIKAA: hospitable as we really are —
ZEUS: (and)they become near-gods,
NAUSIKAA: we-looking, each into the others eyes —
ZEUS: (and)they would honor him —
NAUSIKAA: with feasts, and theyll hang wreaths —
ZEUS: around(his)heart —
NAUSIKAA: treating him —
ZEUS: as(a)god;
ἤματί κ᾽ εἰκοστῷ Σχερίην ἐρίβωλον ἵκοιτο,
35 Φαιήκων ἐς γαῖαν, οἳ ἀγχίθεοι γεγάασιν,
οἵ κέν μιν περὶ κῆρι θεὸν ὣς τιμήσουσιν,
NAUSIKAA: that improved it; maybe
were not so bad at this;
(ZEUS goes back to sleep.)
AUTOS: but she-seeing-Telphousa seeing(his)(curdled-fig-
juice)heart(inclination)(desire)(depth)(purpose) —
ἣ δὲ ἰδοῦσα
Τελφοῦσα κραδίην
NAUSIKAA: which is complicated, his heart,
and difficult to sort-of pick and fiddle
your way out of, but hes almost too
interested in hekatombs —
AUTOS: was angered(wroth) —
ἐχολώσατο
NAUSIKAA: and after all, she isnt we —
AUTOS: and spoke
(this muthos)story-word;
εἶπέ τε μῦθον:
TELPHOUSA: o bright-radiant-pure(o)lord(who)works-from-afar,
NAUSIKAA: dripping with sarcasm, we empath;
TELPHOUSA: some(o)word-song(to)by(for)your phrenes(heart-mind-trunk-
built-concealed-from-we)we will put(lay-down, roots-
plant, and set-in-place).
‘φοῖβε ἄναξ ἑκάεργε, ( ἔπος τί τοι ἐν φρεσὶ θήσω ).
NAUSIKAA: uh-oh, it seems the worker-from-
afar becomes the worked, o mistress-lady wife —
HERA: already a good(brave-noble)man has been(we have
been)born, who(to)for(by)Argives will be(o)lord —
(you will be over-lorded —
he polishes-smooth —
be polished, you! —
he will bring back —
he will lead-up —
up to the high-sea! —
by bringing-up — celebrating — raising-
up)(as you prepare to set sail — whee! — )
ἤδη ἀνὴρ γέγον᾽ ἐσθλὸς ὃς Ἀργείοισιν ἀνάξει
NAUSIKAA: dont be upset, o shining one; this myth
seems more complete, and the delivery,
she speaks — an(o)else-lord, from(o)else-where —
o lord, are you sure youre the lord you say you are?
(APOLLO stunned,
AUTOS speechless)
TELPHOUSA: hither when(youre following the dyad-
word-song) —
NAUSIKAA: which(indeed)we are —
TELPHOUSA: thither when youre minded(exercising-
thought-understanding-intelligence-feeling-
sense-sensibility)to make-ready(build-
work)(a)roundly-beautiful temple-dwelling;
ἐνθάδ᾽ ἐπεὶ φρονέεις τεῦξαι περικαλλέα νηὸν
(TROJAN PIT CREW applauds and cheers)
NAUSIKAA: o lord, we hear youre being kicked-
out; is it for infidelity?
(APOLLO mortified)
NAUSIKAA: there, there, now, now, o lord;
whats a little thither-hither between islands?
are we right boys?
(TROJAN PIT CREW laughs and cheers)
NAUSIKAA: sweet people;
HERA: (its)Eurustheus(broad-ranging power, breadth
of strengh, expansive might)son of Sthenelos(would-bring
strength)child-descendant of Perseus, (of your race-
stock-kin)(offspring)(clan-house-family)(tribe,
caste, breed, generation)(class-sort-kind)
and hes got)your genes —
Εὐρυσθεὺς Σθενέλοιο πάϊς Περσηϊάδαο σὸν γένος:
NAUSIKAA: its confusing when the god has genes;
well have to map it, but her voice sounds pure
and radiant! so its decided; were inviting her
TELPHOUSA: to be(for)by(to)human beings(an)oracle(chresterion),
ἔμμεναι ἀνθρώποις χρηστήριον,
NAUSIKAA: there, there, Apollo, dont be glum;
its just because(o)Heras not your mum;
HERA: (its)not-too-shabby
for him to be(o)lord(to)for(by)Argives.
οὔ οἱ ἀεικὲς ἀνασσέμεν Ἀργείοισιν.’
NAUSIKAA: everyone loves Argives, right?
lets hear again, how not-too-shabby?
TELPHOUSA: which(o whos)(to)by(for)you always hither
(thither)(they)will carry(lead-bring)perfect(full-
complete)hecatombs(hundred-oxen-offerings-
from-afar)(to-for-by tombs);
οἵτε τοι αἰεὶ ἐνθάδ᾽ ἀγινήσουσι τεληέσσας ἑκατόμβας:
NAUSIKAA: see o lord? o wholes, o always
perfect, never incomplete! and we get
the hekatombs too, a whole island
of happy cows well be;
HOMER: so(she)said, but sharp pain struck-
(raised-typhon-smoke)through(his)deep-
phrenes(heart-stirred-smoulderingly-deep);
ὣς φάτο, τὸν δ᾽ ἄχος ὀξὺ κατὰ φρένα τύψε βαθεῖαν:
NAUSIKAA: sounds like she dodged a bullet
OMAR: indeed
(TELPHOUSA enters in human form;
she and NAUSIKAA drink fruity cocktails
then dance with the pit crew and sing)
NAUSIKAA and TELPHOUSA:
o whos o whos, o - two - by - four,
bring perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect
perfect h - e - k - a - t - o - m - b - s - !
NAUSIKAA: cant wait to tell Demodokos about this. all sets!
(All set)
from hymn to Apollo
Il. 8.272-279; 19.122-125
Od. 1.77-79; 5.33-36
the Delphiad, book III
(NAUSIKAA and HOMER on the beach, at sunrise.)
NAUSIKAA: you call me cute in a way we cannot fight,
HOMER: had not Achilles himself risen-up(indeed)and said
the(muthos)story-word;
καί νύ κε δὴ προτέρω ἔτ᾽ ἔρις γένετ᾽ ἀμφοτέροισιν,
εἰ μὴ Ἀχιλλεὺς αὐτὸς ἀνίστατο καὶ φάτο μῦθον:
N: so we call surrender;
(Rise, Achilles.)
ACHILLES: now no longer exchange-in-turn, (you-two)
(them-two), o Ajax and o Idomeneos, mean(cowardly)
(cruel)(shameful)(abusive)(harmful)word-
song(evil)uglies,
(neither)when(following the dyad-word-
song), nor has it(been)seemly,
μηκέτι νῦν χαλεποῖσιν ἀμείβεσθον ἐπέεσσιν
Αἶαν Ἰδομενεῦ τε κακοῖς,
ἐπεὶ οὐδὲ ἔοικε.
N: ever;
ACHILLES: but(indeed)by the other(they-dyad,
you-dyad)would be resentful(angry-wroth),
at whoever would do this kind of thing.
καὶ δ᾽ ἄλλῳ νεμεσᾶτον ὅτις τοιαῦτά γε ῥέζοι.
N: surrounded by cool August breeze,
he still knows anger;
ACHILLES: but still, you(all)seated in the agon(contest-
gathering-struggle-battle), look upon the horses;
ἀλλ᾽ ὑμεῖς ἐν ἀγῶνι καθήμενοι εἰσοράασθε
ἵππους:
N: safe in a warm nest of pillows and sheets,
we look upon the horses;
ACHILLES: but they(by whom)quickly(perhaps)themselves hurrying
(hastening, eagerly-with-speed, blowing-blustering, propelling,
assailing-attacking)around victory, hither(thither)will(go)come;
οἳ δὲ τάχ᾽ αὐτοὶ ἐπειγόμενοι περὶ νίκης
ἐνθάδ᾽ ἐλεύσονται:
N: we wait;
(enter, Autos.)
ACHILLES: but then you will recognize each
of the Argives horses, by whom(they are)second
and by whom(being)presently-in-front.
τότε δὲ γνώσεσθε ἕκαστος
ἵππους Ἀργείων, οἳ δεύτεροι οἵ τε πάροιθεν.
N: our eyes are yours.
AUTOS: but you stood on the(forgotten-hidden-spoils-plundering-
pirates)Lelantine plain; it(this-she)didnt(o satiety, o loathing,
o weariness)delight(delight, you)(in)your thumos(hrrr),
to(make)build a temple-dwelling and sacred-wooded(with tree-
like markings)groves.
στῆς δ᾽ ἐπὶ Ληλάντῳ πεδίῳ: τό τοι οὐχ ἅδε θυμῷ
τεύξασθαι νηόν τε καὶ ἄλσεα δενδρήεντα.
H: as he said; but Tudeides(pursuing)went(and came)very(pit-
under-handed-dyad)close-by(seeking-chasing-pressing-
driving-urging-prosecuting)and drawing-near;
ὣς φάτο, Τυδεΐδης δὲ μάλα σχεδὸν ἦλθε διώκων,
N: he lives far from where prosecutors are,
A: but thence(whence)striding across the Euripos, o Apollo throws-
from-afar, you stepped up to the sacred mountains,
greenish-yellow(bilious-looking)(fresh-blooming);
ἔνθεν δ᾽ Εὔριπον διαβάς, ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον,
βῆς ἄν᾽ ὄρος ζάθεον, χλωρόν:
N: and prefers flowers;
H: but by whip-scourge-lash he was always driving(drive,
you)arm-strokes-through from the shoulder;
μάστι δ᾽ αἰὲν ἔλαυνε κατωμαδόν:
N: our lord has shoulders, we dont whip;
A: but swiftly(perhaps, you)came from him(self)
to(she)Mukalessos(mooing-bellowing-nose-turning-mousy)
and(indeed)going(coming)to(he)Teumessos(happening-accomplishing-
vessel of a canny-fortune-device-workshop)(which cares)with-
grass-fit-to-make-a-bed.
τάχα δ᾽ ἷξες ἀπ᾽ αὐτοῦ
ἐς Μυκαλησσὸν ἰὼν καὶ Τευμησσὸν λεχεποίην.
N: swiftly by chariot, come for a ride,
H: but(the dyad)horses(o horses)by him(by him)
were lifting-lofty(raising-up)swiftly(quickly-nimbly)
passing-through(accomplishing)
(their)course.
οἳ δέ οἱ ἵπποι
ὑψόσ᾽ ἀειρέσθην ῥίμφα πρήσσοντε κέλευθον.
N: the loftier-the-lift, the less we try;
A: but you were arriving in the seat of Thebes(treasure-chest-store-
house-container, put-in-place to step-n-go)having-swooped-
down(covered and clothed)by hule(forest-wood-
land, firewood-fuel, brushwood-twigs,
stuff-material-matter, sediment-
mud, ooze, phlegm-
catarrh);
Θήβης δ᾽ εἰσαφίκανες ἕδος καταειμένον ὕλῃ:
N: digging in the earth of our own heart;
H: but the plume of dust was always hurling(throwing,
flying, striking)the charioteer,
αἰεὶ δ᾽ ἡνίοχον κονίης ῥαθάμιγγες ἔβαλλον,
N: so we cant always see just where we are;
A: for not yet(was)anyone(of)mortal-man dwelling in sacred Thebes,
nor then-and-there, yet-then-at-least, were there(k)not-twisting-paths,
nor drive-command-paths, throughout(the)grain-
bearing plain(of)Thebes,
οὐ γάρ πώ τις ἔναιε βροτῶν ἱερῇ ἐνὶ Θήβῃ,
οὐδ᾽ ἄρα πω τότε γ᾽ ἦσαν ἀταρπιτοὶ οὐδὲ κέλευθοι
Θήβης ἂμ πεδίον πυρηφόρον,
N: so we relied on our horses;
they too enjoy grain.
H: but the chariot having-been(dyad)covered(closely-surrounded,
shielded)by gold and tin, by swift-footed horses was
(as we were approaching)running-close-after;
N: we had to trust we would be safe;
ἅρματα δὲ χρυσῷ πεπυκασμένα κασσιτέρῳ τε
ἵπποις ὠκυπόδεσσιν ἐπέτρεχον:
A: but still, the hule(forest-woodland-cut-wood-
down-firewood-fuel-brushwood-twigs-
stuff-matter–material-sediment-
mud-slime-phlegm-catarrh)
was having(and)held —
aouuuuuuuu!
ἀλλ᾽ ἔχεν ὕλη.
N: we were the howling;
H: nor were many tracks coming-through-after from the iron-rim
around the wheel, in the fine(thin-delicate-subtle-small-
impotent-slight-slender)cloud of dust
(he would cover)(youre covered
with clouds of dust);
οὐδέ τι πολλὴ
γίγνετ᾽ ἐπισσώτρων ἁρματροχιὴ κατόπισθεν
ἐν λεπτῇ κονίῃ:
N: were twinkling(flickering);
A: but(o earlier-dyad)whence(thence)(it came)
(it went)dyad-earlier-was going,
o Apollo throws-from-afar,
ἔνθεν δὲ προτέρω ἔκιες, ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον,
N: there was a beacon,
guiding us through the night;
H: but(both)seeking-eagerly(urging-pressing-on, hastening,
exerting, anxious, harassed)they were flying.
τὼ δὲ σπεύδοντε πετέσθην.
N: they were just being girls;
A: but to Onchestos(swollen-pompous-bellowing-pear-
tree-place, projecting-hook-pour, set-standing-
straight)you went, to Poseidons sacred grove;
N: we have some warm memories;
A: where(a)newly-tamed(filly)foal recovers(draws breath)
(you-drawing-breath)being-roundly-over-loaded
(vexed-grieved-annoyed)dragging
(the)beautiful chariot;
Ὀγχηστὸν δ᾽ ἷξες, Ποσιδήιον ἀγλαὸν ἄλσος:
ἔνθα νεοδμὴς πῶλος ἀναπνέει ἀχθόμενός περ
( ἕλκων ἅρματα καλά ):
N: we have some hard ones too;
H: but(he)made a stand(set-placed)(stayed-checked)(established-
instituted-fixed)(weighed-)into the mid(dle-intermediate, imp-
partial, middling, moderate, mediocre, mean)into the agon
(gathering-assembly-contest-struggle-place),
στῆ δὲ μέσῳ ἐν ἀγῶνι,
πολὺς δ᾽ ἀνεκήκιεν ἱδρὼς
ἵππων ἔκ τε λόφων καὶ ἀπὸ στέρνοιο χαμᾶζε.
N: o(he)repudiates established-institution;
A: but onto the ground(the)roundly-good driver
from(the)seat-board(o springing)leaps —
goes(comes-to)(the)road;
χαμαὶ δ᾽ ἐλατὴρ ἀγαθός περ
( ἐκ δίφροιο θορὼν ) ὁδὸν ἔρχεται:
N: hes made of earth but swift of feet;
H: but much sweat was spouting(and gushing forth)
out of(the)horses necks and(indeed)
from(his)chest onto the ground.
N: our names are rivers;
A: but it(by this)meanwhile indeed
empty(-handed-fruitless-void-)carriage(shelter)rattles
(knocking-strikes-claps)(by rattling-applause)along
(is)letting-go(leaving-neglecting)(what-belongs-
to)a lord.
οἳ δὲ τέως μὲν
κείν᾽ ὄχεα κροτέουσι ἀνακτορίην ἀφιέντες.
N: we dance(an)empty-handed-fruitless-void,
H: but seeing(him), swift(to ward-off, defend, assist, avail, hold-
out)footed-god-like Achilles was feeling pity(for him),
τὸν δὲ ἰδὼν ᾤκτειρε ποδάρκης δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς,
N: but we bring and carry some-great-soul;
A: but if the dyad-chariot break(shiver)s in the sacred-wooded(with
tree-like markings)gro(o)ve, (they)attend(caring for)(letting their hair
grow long)to the horses,
εἰ δέ κεν ἅρματ᾽ ἀγῇσιν ἐν ἄλσεϊ δενδρήεντι,
ἵππους μὲν κομέουσι,
N: and we drag-along a pretty-great-friend;
H: but making a stand, then and there, into the Argives, winged-
word-songs(he)was speaking(speak, you)-agora-(into
the assembly, the marketplace);
στὰς δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἐν Ἀργείοις ἔπεα πτερόεντ᾽ ἀγόρευε:
N: there is a voice, it tells me no,
guiding me through the night;
A: but leaning(sloping-lying-down)(on something)
(they)allow(by letting-go)the(chariot);
τὰ δὲ κλίναντες ἐῶσιν:
N: there are dreams,
there are pillars,
there is a beacon;
ACHILLES: the last(left-behind)man(and)the best(bravest,
most excellent, finest)drives(youre driven)(set in motion)
(struck)(beat-out)(forged)with one
(un-cloven)hoof;
‘λοῖσθος ἀνὴρ ὤριστος ἐλαύνει μώνυχας ἵππους:
N: may your words remain a constant echo
A: for so(the)earliest(hallowed-pious-pure-divine-natural)law
(begetter-ancestor-author-)(himself)became;
ὣς γὰρ τὰ πρώτισθ᾽ ὁσίη γένεθ᾽:
N: get a good nights rest,
in my mind even half asleep;
H: but(him)self(autos)from the all-shining seat-board
leapt(leap, you)onto the ground
(all-shining),
αὐτὸς δ᾽ ἐκ δίφροιο χαμαὶ θόρε παμφανόωντος,
N: we are made of earth, swift-footed;
A: but(to)(for)by the lord
(they)(boast-exult-
triumphant)pray,
οἳ δὲ ἄνακτι
εὔχονται,
N: o we ever arent him;
H: but(he)leaned there-and-then the whip-scourge-lash
against the yoke; nor did(he)idly(waste time doing it),
sturdy(strong)Sthenelos(strength-might-force-vigor);
κλῖνε δ᾽ ἄρα μάστιγα ποτὶ ζυγόν: οὐδὲ μάτησεν
ἴφθιμος Σθένελος,
N: neither does he whip, nor does he run your race;
A: but then destiny(fate)guards(you-on-your-
own-guard)the seat-board of the god.
δίφρον δὲ θεοῦ τότε μοῖρα φυλάσσει.
N: all(being)guarded(we)by(the)guardian(of)guardians(being)all;
H: but still-self-speedily(he)took hold of(grasped-
seized)the(contest)prize;
ἀλλ᾽ ἐσσυμένως λάβ᾽ ἄεθλον,
N: well he had come in first place;
A: but whence(thence)dyad-previously(you)were going,
o Apollo throws-from-afar;
ἔνθεν δὲ προτέρω ἔκιες, ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον:
N: previously burning in Achilles funeral pyre;
H: but(he)gave for(his)high-spirited(thumos)companions
the woman to lead,
N: our name is Nausikaa; we are the first
to whom he(stranger)owes his life.
H: and(indeed)to carry(the dyad-)tripod
with(o ears!)(oars?)handles;
δῶκε δ᾽ ἄγειν ἑτάροισιν ὑπερθύμοισι γυναῖκα
καὶ τρίποδ᾽ ὠτώεντα φέρειν:
N: a giants never been in safer hands;
A: but then and thereupon, you reach the beautifully(flow!)ing
Kephissos(dull-sluggish-torpid-droning-buzzing-garden-
guardian-growing-natural-rest),
Κηφισσὸν δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἔπειτα κιχήσαο καλλιρέεθρον,
N: where we step with bare feet,
when were not taking a seaside nap;
H: but he was(unbinding, unfastening, letting-loose
and releasing)(the dyad-spider-webs)
(and)setting free the horses;
ὃ δ᾽ ἔλυεν ὑφ᾽ ἵππους.
N: which is how they learned to fly;
A: and who-he(would pour)pours from(gracious-desiring-
clarity, musical-guardian-yearning, libations-of-oblivion)
Lilaietha, of the beautifully-flowing water;
ὅς τε Λιλαίηθεν προχέει καλλίρροον ὕδωρ:
N: nobody(he)at all.
(All set.)
from hymn to Apollo
Il.23.488-508, 532-538
cf Od. 8.462
the Delphiad, book II
(KOURAI and HOMER on the beach at sunrise, slack-tide.)
KOURAI: push pause
HOMER: (loosed)
λῦτο
K: and let the world rest
H: but the contest(assembly - games - arena - struggle)disper s e d
(unyoked - undid - unfastened - unbound - dissolved - set f r e e
released - came undone - relaxed - unfol d e d )
(λῦτο)δ᾽ ἀγών,
K: while we arrange our thoughts
H: but each people scattered to go
(and come)upon the swift ships.
λαοὶ δὲ θοὰς ἐπὶ νῆας ἕκαστοι
ἐσκίδναντ᾽ ἰέναι.
K: into neat piles
H: those(by you)(indeed)were thinking of dinner;
τοὶ μὲν δόρποιο μέδοντο
K: each carefully labeled
H: and of sweet sleep(of lichen)(he was putting
to sleep)(sleep, you)
to be satisfied;
ὕπνου τε γλυκεροῦ ταρπήμεναι:
K: lock ugly ones in a box
H: nevertheless, Achilles(remembering)
was weeping(weep, you)(remembering his)beloved companion, re-
membering, and not even sleep, all-tamer, was taking hold,
αὐτὰρ Ἀχιλλεὺς
κλαῖε φίλου ἑτάρου μεμνημένος, οὐδέ μιν ὕπνος
ᾕρει πανδαμάτωρ,
K: give the key to you
H: but he was turning(youre turning)here and there, yearning
(missing)(regretting)(longing)for Patroklos, his manhood
and his goodly menos(courage-passion-spirit-fury-strength) —
ἀλλ᾽ ἐστρέφετ᾽ ἔνθα καὶ ἔνθα
Πατρόκλου ποθέων ἀνδροτῆτά τε καὶ μένος ἠΰ,
and however many(he had)wound-off(achieved)together-with-him
and(the pains)suffered(endured), the pains(piercing-
through)of men(growing into manhood)the grievous wars
and(piercing-through)the(pregnant)waves(floods)(swellings)piercing-
through —
ἠδ᾽ ὁπόσα τολύπευσε σὺν αὐτῷ καὶ πάθεν ἄλγεα
ἀνδρῶν τε πτολέμους ἀλεγεινά τε κύματα πείρων:
remembering those, he(weeping)let fall the blooming(flowing-
full-fresh, stout-thick-lusty)(we-weeping)tear,
at one time, on(his)(ribs)side lying down, at another again
lying(backwards)(supine)on his back, at another,
lying(prone)on his front;
τῶν μιμνησκόμενος θαλερὸν κατὰ δάκρυον εἶβεν,
(10) ἄλλοτ᾽ ἐπὶ πλευρὰς κατακείμενος, ἄλλοτε δ᾽ αὖτε
ὕπτιος, ἄλλοτε δὲ πρηνής:
K: knowing
H: but at times standing straight
he was turning(whirling)restless(distraught)(at a loss)(wandering
along)the beach, beside the salty sea; nor did dawn
appearing escape his awareness,
τοτὲ δ᾽ ὀρθὸς ἀναστὰς
δινεύεσκ᾽ ἀλύων παρὰ θῖν᾽ ἁλός: οὐδέ μιν ἠὼς
φαινομένη λήθεσκεν
K: you won’t give it back
H: from beyond the salt-
sea and this beach.
ὑπεὶρ ἅλα τ᾽ ἠϊόνας τε.
(enter AUTOS)
AUTOS: but in again(bow wow)to this, Ares and well-
sighted Argeiphontes(giant-slayer-Hermes)(they)play
(she-playing by he- or they-playing);
ἐν δ᾽ αὖ τῇσιν Ἄρης καὶ ἐύσκοπος Ἀργειφόντης
παίζουσ᾽:
H: but(he)at least then(youre following the dyad-word-song)
(he)would yoke the swift horses under(dyad-spider-
webs)the chariot;
ἀλλ᾽ ὅ γ᾽ ἐπεὶ ζεύξειεν ὑφ᾽ ἅρμασιν ὠκέας ἵππους,
A: nevertheless(he)Phoibos(pure, bright, radiant)Apollo
plays the kithara,
αὐτὰρ ὁ Φοῖβος Α᾽πόλλων ἐγκιθαρίζει
H: but to drag(him)he would tie(bind)Hektor behind the seat,
Ἕκτορα δ᾽ ἕλκεσθαι δησάσκετο δίφρου ὄπισθεν,
A: (as you are played)dyad-beautiful and(indeed)striding-high;
(ἐγκιθαρίζει) καλὰ καὶ ὕψι βιβάς:
H. but three-times dragging(you)around the sign(the burial-
mound)of the dead son of Menoitios(Patroklos),
and again(on the fourth)pausing to lie down,
τρὶς δ᾽ ἐρύσας περὶ σῆμα Μενοιτιάδαο θανόντος
αὖτις ἐνὶ κλισίῃ παυέσκετο,
A: but radiance shines(you are shone)around him,
αἴγλη δέ μιν ἀμφιφαείνει
H. but leaving him in ashes(and then)lying stretched-out
(prone)on his face;
τὸν δέ τ᾽ ἔασκεν
ἐν κόνι ἐκτανύσας προπρηνέα:
A: and the twinkling(and flickering)of(his)feet;
μαρμαρυγαί τε ποδῶν
H: but of him, Apollo was holding-off(hold-off, you)the whole
outrage to the flesh(body)(skin), feeling
pity for the person,
(indeed)though(he)had died;
τοῖο δ᾽ Ἀπόλλων
πᾶσαν ἀεικείην ἄπεχε χροῒ φῶτ᾽ ἐλεαίρων
(20) καὶ τεθνηότα περ:
A: (indeed)of(his)well-spun tunic;
καὶ ἐυκλώστοιο χιτῶνος.
H: but all-around by-aegis(he)covered(cover, you)by(-all-)gold,
so that(the)dragging-about wouldnt tear-off(the)skin.
περὶ δ᾽ αἰγίδι πάντα κάλυπτε
χρυσείῃ, ἵνα μή μιν ἀποδρύφοι ἑλκυστάζων.
K: (o radiant lord — )my body is refusing
to(cross-eyes)cooperate
(powers-out)again
it(you)(you)must know
(dark moon)of the storm in my heart.
H: nevertheless Odysseus
was observing the twinkling(flickering)of feet,
αὐτὰρ Ὀδυσσεὺς
μαρμαρυγὰς θηεῖτο ποδῶν,
A: but they rejoice-at(great thumos)looking-into(the)great thumos;
οἳ δ᾽ ἐπιτέρπονται θυμὸν μέγαν εἰσορόωντες
H: but(he)wondered(wonder, you)(at it)
in his thumos(flickering-
twinkling-heart).
θαύμαζε δὲ θυμῷ.
A: and Leto(seize-behold)of goldy-locks and(indeed)deliberate Zeus
(wondered at their)beloved child, playing amongst the immortal
gods(they shine - by shining)(they run - by runing)
(by gazing)and goddesses.
Λητώ τε χρυσοπλόκαμος καὶ μητίετα Ζεὺς
υἷα φίλον παίζοντα μετ᾽ ἀθανάτοισι θεοῖσι.
H: nevertheless he, playing the lyre, was throwing-and-striking-up
beautifully, to sing!
αὐτὰρ ὁ φορμίζων ἀνεβάλλετο καλὸν ἀείδειν
A: and how, then-and-there, would(will)we sing(of)you(re being
sung), being(s)wholly well(and-many-well)sung?
πῶς τ᾽ ἄρ σ᾽ ὑμνήσω πάντως εὔυμνον ἐόντα;
H: about(around)Ares lovemaking and fragrant-crowned Aphrodite,
as they(dyad)first mingled, in(the)house(of)Hephaistos,
secretly,
ἀμφ᾽ Ἄρεος φιλότητος εὐστεφάνου τ᾽ Ἀφροδίτης,
ὡς τὰ πρῶτα μίγησαν ἐν Ἡφαίστοιο δόμοισι
λάθρῃ,
A: or(ah!)in going-courting we(would)sing of you,
and(indeed)in-lovemaking,
ἠέ σ᾽ ἐνὶ μνηστῆρσιν ἀείδω καὶ φιλότητι,
H: but(it)gave many(dyads),
πολλὰ δ᾽ ἔδωκε,
A: so that(mindful-of was)wooing Azantida(parched-sacred, dread-
girdled, anti-blossom)girl-daughter,
ὅππως μνωόμενος ἔκιες Ἀζαντίδα κούρην
H: but(the marriage)bed shamed, indeed(the grave)bedding
of lord Hephaistos.
λέχος δ᾽ ᾔσχυνε καὶ εὐνὴν
Ἡφαίστοιο ἄνακτος.
A: were(you)going with god-like Ischos(hip-loin-leash-strength)
at-once with well-horsed Elationides(fir-pine-tree-wood-driver-
charioteer-beating-forcing-outward-
smaller-deer)?
Ἴσχυ᾽ ἅμ᾽ ἀντιθέῳ Ἐλατιονίδη εὐίππῳ;
H: but at-once to-him(a)messenger came(and went), Helios(its-just-
the-sun), who perceived them mingling-in-lovemaking.
ἄφαρ δέ οἱ ἄγγελος ἦλθεν
Ἥλιος, ὅ σφ᾽ ἐνόησε μιγαζομένους φιλότητι.
A: or at-once(with)Thorbas(tumultuous-t-rex-against)the off-
spring by Triops(triad-eye-giant)?
ἢ ἅμα Θόρβαντι Τριοπέῳ γένος,
H: but Hephaistos, soon-as(he)heard(the)thumos-grieving(muthos)story,
there and then he stepped to go(come)to(his)forge(dyad-ugly),
(and)by the phrenes(heart-mind-built-deep)(he was)building-in-
the-deep(brooding)(pondering-secretly)dyad-uglies,
Ἥφαιστος δ᾽ ὡς οὖν θυμαλγέα μῦθον ἄκουσε,
βῆ ῥ᾽ ἴμεν ἐς χαλκεῶνα κακὰ φρεσὶ βυσσοδομεύων,
A: or at-once(with)Ereutheos(vomit-staining-fire-rageous-red)?
ἢ ἅμ᾽ Ἐρευθεῖ;
H: but(he)put the great anvil on the anvil-block, (o yes)
ἐν δ᾽ ἔθετ᾽ ἀκμοθέτῳ μέγαν ἄκμονα,
A: or at-once(with)Leukippos(white-bright-horse)and
(indeed)the wife(dame-tamer)of Leukippos(white-brightening-horse) . . .
ἢ ἅμα Λευκίππῳ καὶ Λευκίπποιο δάμαρτι
H: but he was hammering-out fastenings(fetterings-bonds-
halters(ships-mooring-cable)(knots)spells-latches-charms
(desmos)not-to-be-broken(not-to-be-loosed),
so that in-the-ground(steadfast)(safe)(un-decaying)(vigor-retaining)(never-
failing)on-the-spot they would stay(stand fast, stay at home, stay
where one is)(remain as one)(abide).
κόπτε δὲ δεσμοὺς
ἀρρήκτους ἀλύτους, ὄφρ᾽ ἔμπεδον αὖθι μένοιεν.
A: . . . on foot, but he by horses;
… πεζός, ὃ δ᾽ ἵπποισιν:
(universal-laughter)
H: nevertheless since(following the dyad-word-song)he made(built-
worked)the bait(trick-stratagem-of guile-craft-cunning-
treachery)provoked-to-anger by Ares,
αὐτὰρ ἐπεὶ δὴ τεῦξε δόλον κεχολωμένος Ἄρει,
A: and not(one month)even
was Triops(triad-
eye)left behind;
οὐ μὴν Τρίοπός γ᾽ ἐνέλειπεν.
H: then and there(he)stepped, to go(or come)(we come)(and go)to
(his)bedchamber, where lay(his)beloved(made-by-)himself bed;
βῆ ῥ᾽ ἴμεν ἐς θάλαμον, ὅθι οἱ φίλα δέμνι᾽ ἔκειτο,
A: or as the first oracle(o oracle!)by human beings, seeking-
through the land(you)stepped, o throws-from-afar Apollo?
ἢ ὡς τὸ πρῶτον χρηστήριον ἀνθρώποισι
ζητεύων κατὰ γαῖαν ἔβης, ἑκατηβόλ᾽ Ἄπολλον;
H: but then, around(the)bedposts(he)was pouring(pour, you)the bonds
(fetters-head-bands)by an all-encompassing circle;
ἀμφὶ δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἑρμῖσιν χέε δέσματα κύκλῳ ἁπάντῃ:
A: to Pieria(oopsy, her Piraeus)(fertile-muses-trial)indeed the first
from Olympos(on whom)you went-down;
Πιερίην μὲν πρῶτον ἀπ᾽ Οὐλύμποιο κατῆλθες:
H: but many(of them)and(indeed)down from roof-beams(houses)(lairs)
(cages)they were poured out, like(fine-thin-delicate-subtle)spider-
webs(small intestines, a very small coin, a jar, minutes-
seconds, moonlit-outages),
πολλὰ δὲ καὶ καθύπερθε μελαθρόφιν ἐξεκέχυντο,
ἠύτ᾽ ἀράχνια λεπτά,
A: and sandy Lektos(bed-ology)you passed by
and the(being-thrown-innies)Enienes
and(indeed)through the(sprinkling-crooked-
around-the-edges)Perraibos;
Λέκτον τ᾽ ἠμαθοέντα παρέστιχες ἠδ᾽ Ἐνιῆνας
καὶ διὰ Περραιβούς:
H: and none would ever see them, not even one of the blessed gods,
for(he)had built(it)around(wily - crafty - artful)subtleties(doloeis).
τά γ᾽ οὔ κέ τις οὐδὲ ἴδοιτο,
οὐδὲ θεῶν μακάρων: πέρι γὰρ δολόεντα τέτυκτο.
A: but swiftly(perhaps)into Iaolkos(o purple-poison-arrow-dragging-battle-
cry-cure)you were arriving, and you went upon Kenaios(that-there-
here-this-that-would-empty-center)of Euboia(lovely-
cows-eyes-say-moo), ship-famous —
O Nausikleia!
τάχα δ᾽ εἰς Ἰαωλκὸν ἵκανες,
Κηναίου τ᾽ ἐπέβης ναυσικλειτῆς Εὐβοίης.
from hymn to Apollo 200-219
Il. 24.1-24
Od. 8.264-281
the Delphiad, book I
AUTOS: O(we would be)lord, indeed you have(and hold)lovely Lukia
and Meionia and Miletus, delightful(himeroeis)city on the sea,
KOURAI: indeed-undead, you winesack with dogs eyes and a deers heart.
A: but himself again(bow wow)of Delos sea-washed-round
greatly(you)lord(himself).
ὦ ἄνα, καὶ Λυκίην καὶ Μῃονίην ἐρατεινὴν
καὶ Μίλητον ἔχεις, ἔναλον πόλιν ἱμερόεσσαν,
αὐτὸς δ᾽ αὖ Δήλοιο περικλύστοιο μέγ᾽ ἀνάσσεις.
K: in the rear-ends of dusty libraries.
A: but(he)goes(and comes)playing the lyre, the glorious child of Leto(behold-
seize), by the hollow(smooth)(subtle)(elegant)lyre to rocky Pytho,
K: good riddance, see if that bitch will take you.
A: having(holding)divine(dyad)garments(they-we heap up earth
to bury)(having been)filled with sweet smells;
K: just doing to his stinky rags as hes done to us.
A: but his lyre of gold, under the plectrum(spear-point-sting)(cocks-
spur)(ankle), the sharp ring(gnashing of teeth)(mule-
wagon-rattling), has(and holds)lovely.
K: lovely under dirt.
εἶσι δὲ φορμίζων Λητοῦς ἐρικυδέος υἱὸς
φόρμιγγι γλαφυρῇ πρὸς Πυθὼ πετρήεσσαν,
ἄμβροτα εἵματ᾽ ἔχων τεθυωμένα: τοῖο δὲ φόρμιγξ
(185) χρυσέου ὑπὸ πλήκτρου καναχὴν ἔχει ἱμερόεσσαν.
A: but(whence)thence(comes and goes)to Olympos from earth, as thought,
K: a lord of non-entities —
A: (he)goes(and comes, of Zeus)toward the house of Zeus and(goes and)comes
(among)(after)the meeting of other gods and goddesses(of other seeings).
K: eats his own people, in the words of Achilles.
enjoy unfamy-infamy, you.
ἔνθεν δὲ πρὸς Ὄλυμπον ἀπὸ χθονός, ὥστε νόημα,
εἶσι Διὸς πρὸς δῶμα θεῶν μεθ᾽ ὁμήγυριν ἄλλων.
A: but immediately by immortals
K: uh-oh
A: (the dyad-strain-phrase)(by strain-phrase)
K: we think
A: (she cares)(you are cared for)the kithara and the song
(are)cared for(by immortals);
αὐτίκα δ᾽ ἀθανάτοισι μέλει κίθαρις καὶ ἀοιδή:
K: he knows our favorite
Homer: but there and then —
K: be gentle (what)
H: it caused unquenchable laughter by blessed gods
and goddesses, as they(we)saw(humble)Hephaistos hustle-
bustling(by divine limp)through the house.
K: but you know my body is sore
(hey — )
after adventure
(its a euphemismos)
ἄσβεστος δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἐνῶρτο γέλως μακάρεσσι θεοῖσιν
(600) ὡς ἴδον Ἥφαιστον διὰ δώματα ποιπνύοντα.
H: as then the whole day long into the setting sun
K: your hands map every(oh)knot
H: they gave a feast(were feasted), and neither was anyones thumos
K: tension(ahh)releasing
H: (heart-spirit-hunger)(wetly)lacking(nor wanting)
an equal feast,
K: (ok yes, that feels good)
H: nor indeed(did they lack)the all-around-
beautiful lyre, which Apollo was(having
and)holding
K: (heartbeat slowing)whys that
H: (hold, you)(o viper)
ὣς τότε μὲν πρόπαν ἦμαρ ἐς ἠέλιον καταδύντα
δαίνυντ᾽, οὐδέ τι θυμὸς ἐδεύετο δαιτὸς ἐΐσης,
οὐ μὲν φόρμιγγος περικαλλέος ἣν ἔχ᾽ Ἀπόλλων,
Μουσάων θ᾽ αἳ ἄειδον ἀμειβόμεναι ὀπὶ καλῇ.
Iliad 1.604
K: until your mouth(uh oh)
A: and all the Muses(o Muses)together(get it, you)taking turns
and exchanging by beautiful voice(word)(eye)(face)
(it would call)(you are beauty-called),
Μοῦσαι μέν θ᾽ ἅμα πᾶσαι ἀμειβόμεναι ὀπὶ καλῇ
K: finds the side of our neck —
they praise(by singing)there and then the divine gifts of gods and goddesses
(gifts of seeings)and miseries of human beings,
which(both)having(and holding)under immortal gods and goddesses(by
gazings and contemplations)they live(living)(by livings)senseless
and(indeed)helpless(amechanos), and not even are they able
to find(discover, devise, get, gain)a cure for death
nor indeed a defense against old age;
(190) ὑμνεῦσίν ῥα θεῶν δῶρ᾽ ἄμβροτα ἠδ᾽ ἀνθρώπων
τλημοσύνας, ὅσ᾽ ἔχοντες ὑπ᾽ ἀθανάτοισι θεοῖσι
ζώουσ᾽ ἀφραδέες καὶ ἀμήχανοι, οὐδὲ δύνανται
εὑρέμεναι θανάτοιό τ᾽ ἄκος καὶ γήραος ἄλκαρ:
K: ok but its a headache-causing headache-cure
A: nevertheless the fair-haired Graces
and well-hearted(cheerful, merry, kindly,
gracious)Hours
K: those hores
A: and Harmonia(fastening-union-order-
agreement-stringing)and Hebe(youthfulness)
and daughter-of-Zeus Aphrodite,
K: even Aphrodite?
A: (they)dance(and leap and bound)holding one anothers hands
at the(fruit, grain)wrist;
αὐτὰρ ἐυπλόκαμοι Χάριτες καὶ ἐύφρονες Ὧραι
(195) Ἁρμονίη θ᾽ Ἥβη τε Διὸς θυγάτηρ τ᾽ Ἀφροδίτη
ὀρχεῦντ᾽ ἀλλήλων ἐπὶ καρπῷ χεῖρας ἔχουσαι:
K: we didnt know we had a(fruit, grain)wrist
H: but of them, the girls had fine(delicate-subtle)linen clothes(sail-cloth),
K: its us!
H: while the boys(sitting idly)wore well-spun tunics,
K: omg, its them
H: glistening softly
with olive oil;
K: yum.
H: and the girls had beautiful circlets,
K: we love circlets
H: while the boys
K: give us fantasy!
H: had golden daggers hanging from silver belt-straps.
(595) τῶν δ᾽ αἳ μὲν λεπτὰς ὀθόνας ἔχον, οἳ δὲ χιτῶνας
εἵατ᾽ ἐϋννήτους, ἦκα στίλβοντας ἐλαίῳ:
καί ῥ᾽ αἳ μὲν καλὰς στεφάνας ἔχον, οἳ δὲ μαχαίρας
εἶχον χρυσείας ἐξ ἀργυρέων τελαμώνων.
K: yesss
H: but when the boys ran(we ran)by knowing(standing-on)feet, very
(secretly)easily;
K: hows that
H: as when some potter, seating(-himself)will trial
and test a close-fitted wheel in the palms(of his hands),
K: uh-huh
H: the girls, by seeing, would set and run and shine;
K: oh,
H: but at another(time)again(bow wow)the girls would run
across(you march)the rows, to-for-by one-another.
οἳ δ᾽ ὁτὲ μὲν θρέξασκον ἐπισταμένοισι πόδεσσι
(600) ῥεῖα μάλ᾽, ὡς ὅτε τις τροχὸν ἄρμενον ἐν παλάμῃσιν
ἑζόμενος κεραμεὺς πειρήσεται, αἴ κε θέῃσιν:
ἄλλοτε δ᾽ αὖ θρέξασκον ἐπὶ στίχας ἀλλήλοισι.
K: oh heavens,
H: but a crowd of many was standing
K: stand, yall!
H: around the lovely(himeroeis)dance-
chorus, being filled with solace
and cheer;
K: well, we hope so,
H: but two(a dyad of)tumbling acrobats among them,
K: us??
H: initiating-ruling the song and dance, were whirling
K: we whirl! we whirl!
H: (yes, but)through the middle.
πολλὸς δ᾽ ἱμερόεντα χορὸν περιίσταθ᾽ ὅμιλος
τερπόμενοι:
(605) δοιὼ δὲ κυβιστητῆρε κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς
μολπῆς ἐξάρχοντες ἐδίνευον κατὰ μέσσους.
K: (whirling into the poet)sorry —
H: but —
K: (in disbelief) what powers this?
H: into(it)he put the great and mighty river Ocean
around the outermost rim of the solidly-made shield.
ἐν δ᾽ ἐτίθει ποταμοῖο μέγα σθένος Ὠκεανοῖο
ἄντυγα πὰρ πυμάτην σάκεος πύκα ποιητοῖο.
Iliad 18.594-608
K: you guys know we love the beach!
A: by which indeed(it)celebrates(after)with(meta)song
neither shameful
nor mean;
K: (dreamily)he had us at hephaestos
A: but(its)very(dyad-secret)(stage whispers)and large
to see and(indeed)form(o
form)admirable,
K: OMG! omg omg its — (covers own mouth)
A: Artemis arrow-pouring(being)nursed the same with(by)Apollo.
K: . . . o monumental!
τῇσι μὲν οὔτ᾽ αἰσχρὴ μεταμέλπεται οὔτ᾽ ἐλάχεια,
ἀλλὰ μάλα μεγάλη τε ἰδεῖν καὶ εἶδος ἀγητή,
Ἄρτεμις ἰοχέαιρα ὁμότροφος Ἀπόλλωνι.
from hymn 3 to Apollo
(I of XVIII books, in 21 parts, over one moon)