Sheep

    IX.vi. ( on ) taking notes ( on carrying song )

    GAIA, she - dyad earth.
    KUKNEION, a swan.
    BETA DUCK( Ἀνὴρ Β ), a duck, of duck - dyad ( ? ).
    ALPHA DUCK( Ἀνὴρ Α ), another duck, of duck - dyad ( ? ).
    TRAGOS, a goat.

    //

    GAIA:
    { we used to imagine }
    we would summon you.

    BETA DUCK:
    ( we )( will )( beauty - )call( summon )
    ( we are beauty - calling and summoning )
    ( to us )( to our house )( invite )( invoke )
    ( summon before the court )( sue )
    ( calling upon )( calling by name )
    herselves( accused ),
    καλούμεθ᾽ αὐτάς.

    KUKNEION:
    as usual they ( ducks ) want to help,
    but how did they come to be
    so ( hyper - active ) nominative ?
    do you know how, O goat ?

    TRAGOS:
    ( they )have filled full of yous( your - plural )
    ( of your )( hims - hers - its )( genitive )
    the( she - dyad )( its )ears( voc - nom - acc )

    and( indeed )long ago
    ( o she - nuggets - nom )( to - by - for )( she - nugget )( of gold ? )
    ( o she - wrestlings )( to - by - for )( she - wrestling )( battle ? )
    ( o she - finest meals )( to - by - for )( she - finest meal )( fine dust ? )
    ( she would poise )( sway )( brandish )( toss )( shake lots )
    ( be shaken and shook, you ! )( vibrate ! )

    and( indeed )violently( vehemently )( excessively )
    ( men - nom )throwing - through( throwing - across )
    ( setting at variance )( setting against )( bringing to discredit )
    ( calumniating )( accusing )( complaining )( misrepresenting )
    ( slandering )( laying blame ).

    ἐμπεπλήκασιν ὑμῶν
    τὰ ὦτα
    καὶ πάλαι
    καὶ σφοδρῶς διαβάλλοντες.

    GAIA:
    and { what wed want to teach you }
    cant be thrown - through violently
    or yelled in the imperative.
    but sometimes laughter helps,

    ALPHA DUCK:
    but if( see ! )( we say )( its we )( theyre we )( we are )( <.< )
    ( they )( would )( will )laugh at( scornfully )( mock )
    ( to - by - for )( hims and its )( laughing -
    downwards - against )( derisions ),
    what( it - thing )( then ) ?

    ἢν δὲ καταγελῶσι, τί;

    KUKNEION:
    we ( did some research ) looked in our pond
    and swans arent very funny.
    so where would the laughter come from ?

    TRAGOS:
    out of( forth from )these( shes, hes, its )

    and( indeed )Meletos( man - nom )
    ( youthful )( of a she - ship )( an unknown - nom )
    ( chaste tree - accused )( vessel of the god and goddess ? )
    ( τετανότριχα )( he - she - accused )( of long - straight hair )
    ( strained )( aimed )( string )( not well - bearded )( yet beaky )
    ( and as accused )( it - dyad )( would be an object of care )
    ( you - dyad )( would be an object of care )
    ( Euthuphron 2β )( to - by - for )me

    (it )would put me on himself( put me on his table )
    ( give fulfilment by me )( put me on him like a door )
    ( place me on him )( apply me like a remedy )
    ( lay me on him )( apply myself to him )
    ( employ himself by me )( shut doors
    behind us by me )( put a covering or closing
    by me )( attempt me )( attack himself
    by me )( take advantage ! )( bring me
    on himself )( cause by me his penalty )

    and( indeed )Anutos( man - nom )
    ( of fathers wisdom - wealthy flourishing blooms )
    ( neither flashy )( nor puffed - up )( nor braying )
    ( yet carries a burden )( a grievous load )
    ( yet would be led along )( and sprinkled )
    ( well - ordered )( moderate )( well - equipped )
    ( well - reared )( well - thickened - congealed )( educated )
    ( as it seems to the multitude of Politeans )( Meno 90α - β )
    ( made participial )( adding energy )( anutontes )
    ( he - nom )( achieving )( accomplishing )( completing )

    and( indeed )( o )Lukon( of - wolves )( hims )
    ( they were tearing like a wolf )( we were tearing like a wolf )
    ( its - voc - nom - acc )( o he - nom )( tearing like a wolf )
    ( to tear like a wolf ),

    ἐκ τούτων καὶ Μέλητός μοι ἐπέθετο καὶ Ἄνυτος καὶ Λύκων,

    GAIA:
    we almost explained a wolf
    { then caught myself and felt shame }
    as thats what he would do,

    BETA DUCK:
    upon( at )( over - against )( in dependence upon )
    the( she )double - folding doors
    ( o man - nom )having made a stand,

    (865) ἐπὶ ταῖς θύραις ἑστώς—

    KUKNEION:
    even indeed the wolf
    shares this with me,
    also shared by poetry,

    TRAGOS:
    even( indeed )Meletos( man - nom )
    ( care )( practice )( study )( beaky )

    over( above )( on behalf of )( in defense of )( for the safety of )
    the( shes - hes - its - gen )poets( makers )( doers )
    ( of made )( adopted )( invented )( shes and hes and its )
    ( let the it - dyad - imperative - make and do )
    ( let them - imperative - make and do )

    ( he - nom )being( loaded )weighed - down
    ( in pain or grief )( being loaded with cargo
    on board )( vexed )( grieved ),

    Μέλητος μὲν ὑπὲρ τῶν ποιητῶν ἀχθόμενος,

    GAIA:
    him - letting - it - dyad make and do
    she - suffering will out. thats how
    a { silly girl } would make and do

    ALPHA DUCK:
    some( it - voc - nom - acc )

    ( o shes - nom - accused )( she - strengths )( she - efficacies )
    ( she - sacrifices )( she - active forces of a verb )
    ( she - acts )( she - visions )

    will( would )( you )do( accomplish )( some great thing ) ?
    ( will - would you offer sacrifice )( perform mystical rites ? )

    ( o he - weight of the mountain on the Typhon )
    ( o he - little - piece of mouse - trap - wood )
    ( o he - worm that eats both horn and wood )
    speak( say, you )( it speaks )
    ( to - by - for )me,

    τί δράσεις; εἰπέ μοι.

    KUKNEION:
    but wed do all of that with grace.

    TRAGOS:
    but Anutos( man - nom )( achieving )( accomplishing )( completing )
    ( over )( above )on behalf of( in defense of )( for the safety of )
    the( shes - hes - its - gen )workers - for - the - people( hims )
    ( demiourgoi )( skilled workmen )( craftsmen )( creators )( makers )
    ( he - nom )( practicing a trade )( doing work )

    and( indeed )of the( shes - hes - its - gen )political( people )
    ( gen - shes and hes and its )( citizens )( civil men
    and women and men )( community people )( be -
    fitting a statesman )( of shes and hes and them )
    ( having relation to public life )( ordinary ),

    Ἄνυτος δὲ ὑπὲρ τῶν δημιουργῶν καὶ (24α) τῶν πολιτικῶν,

    GAIA:
    go learn from all of them their skills.
    then use it for the good of the people.
    { thinking youd even want that }
    its offering open appeals,

    BETA DUCK:
    of( shes and hes and its - gen )the( of its and hims )bringing( it )in
    ( before )( facing )( introducing )( contributing )( paying
    the property - tax )( bringing - forward )( proposing )
    ( e.g. of political measures )

    ( let them be - imperative - bringing - forward )( facing )

    ( we will )would have( it )torn( from our arms )
    ( overpowered )( overmastered )( stollen )( grasped )
    the( she - dyad )( its )grain( corn )( bread )
    ( food )( provisions )( fodder ).

    τῶν ἐσφερόντων ἁρπάσομαι τὰ σιτία.

    KUKNEION:
    but we dont private property
    so nobody hears what we say.
    or if they do, they take and use
    illusions for their private purposes.

    TRAGOS:
    but( o )Lukon( of - wolves )( hims )
    ( they were tearing like a wolf )( we were tearing like a wolf )
    ( its - voc - nom - acc )( o he - nom )( tearing like a wolf )
    ( to tear like a wolf )

    over( above )( on behalf of )( in defense of )( for the safety of )
    the( shes - hes - its - gen )public-( men )-speakers( rhetoricians )
    ( the ones in the ekklesia ),

    Λύκων δὲ ὑπὲρ τῶν ῥητόρων:

    GAIA:
    how else would you manage the public
    than by treating them like sheep ?
    how else would you help people learn ?
    we used to imagine you would never learn.
    { but there you are taking notes }
    on our secret we - being behaviors.
    even though we never told you to,
    we only hinted that you might

    ALPHA DUCK:
    walk( go by land )( by sea )( go, you )( its going )
    ( to - by - for you )( now )therefore( accordingly )( well then )
    ( the )later( coming after )( behind )( posterior )( man - nom ),

    βάδιζε τοίνυν ὕστερος:

    KUKNEION:
    we - swans, by nature, go both
    across water and over land.
    although on land we waddle,

    TRAGOS:
    so that( so as )( as being )( inasmuch as )
    ( as to )( express the actual or intended result
    of the action in the principle clause )( and so )
    ( therefore )( in order that )( for ),

    ὥστε,

    GAIA:
    its tedious to waddle around a pond.
    but imaginations born { of the silliest things }
    lovely and weird and funny too, random
    and yet not altogether new,

    ALPHA DUCK:
    but you( nom )O( we would be )Sikon
    ( a squeamish - fastidious - sort of )( man - nom ? )
    ( a cucumber or gourd )( acting like a Sicilian ? )

    and( indeed )Parmenon( man - nom )( standing by )
    ( staying beside )( remaining )( enduring )( lasting )
    ( standing ones ground )( standing fast )
    ( surviving )( remaining alive )

    lift( take up for itself )( what is its own )
    ( carry off and win, you ! )( be puffed up, you ! )
    ( youre raising )( lifting )( stirring - up )
    ( taking upon itself )( undergoing )( removing )

    the( her - accused )whole of( her )possessions
    ( properties )( acquisitions ),

    σὺ δ᾽ ὦ Σίκων
    καὶ Παρμένων αἴρεσθε τὴν παμπησίαν.

    KUKNEION:
    as swan carries earth, so earth carries swan.
    we graze on pondweed at the muddy edges
    of a lake, and sometimes bite a bug or snail.
    swans havent changed in years. yet too
    theres something marvelous in everything
    as swans ( she - dyad )( its ) we do,

    TRAGOS:
    ( it )which

    ( he-)first( ruling )( making a beginning of )
    ( taking the lead )( governing )( commanding )

    ( we-)i(-being )say( we say and speak )
    ( they say and speak )( we - they )( gather )
    ( choose )( count, tell )( recount, tell over )
    ( repeat )( maintain and mean )

    ( the he - song of mourning )( lament )( the elegy ),

    ὅπερ ἀρχόμενος ἐγὼ ἔλεγον,

    GAIA:
    its part of me, yet were not part of it.
    so that some things { we choose to share } sometimes,
    like swan - song,

    BETA DUCK:
    ( its )carrying( carry, you ! )now( we - )i( - being )

    ( to - by - for )you

    ( we )( would )bring together( gather )( collect )
    ( contribute )( bear along with )( bear jointly )
    ( be useful )( be profitable )( do some good )
    ( work with )( agree with )( assist )
    ( carry - together ),

    φέρε νυν ἐγώ σοι ξυμφέρω.

    KUKNEION:
    we carrying the song together
    would be beautiful,

    TRAGOS:
    ( we would )wonder( marvel )( honor )( admire )( worship )
    if( thereupon )( spreading all over )( throughout )
    whether( you come )( and go into )( you are we )
    such( man - nom )as( you - accused ),

    θαυμάζοιμ᾽ ἂν εἰ οἷός 

    KUKNEION:
    we would wonder at that ( you ) too,

    TRAGOS:
    and would( we )be( we )( to suffer )( to permit )
    ( to leave alone )( to let be )( we - )ego( - being )of you
    ( you )( gen - plural )( of shes and hes and its ),

    τ᾽ εἴην ἐγὼ ὑμῶν 

    KUKNEION:
    not my we at least,

    TRAGOS:
    this( she - accused )the( she - accused )slander( she - thrown - through )
    ( she - false accusation )( she - discredit )( she - prejudice against )
    ( she - ill - repute )( she - quarrel )( she - enmity )
    ( she - fear )( she - aversion ),

    ταύτην τὴν διαβολὴν

    KUKNEION:
    were only ultra - violet in she - defense,

    TRAGOS:
    to take out( for oneself )( to choose for oneself )
    ( to carry off as booty )( to have accepted as a gift )
    ( to remove her from our mind )( from our hands )
    ( to set free )( to deliver )( to bring to an end ) ,

    ἐξελέσθαι

    KUKNEION:
    the rearing of our young into adulthood,

    TRAGOS:
    in this way in( him - it )slight( him )time( dat )
    so( in this way )much( great )( mighty )( she - accused )
    ( she - accused )having( coming - into - being )
    being - born( of her ),

    ἐν οὕτως ὀλίγῳ χρόνῳ οὕτω πολλὴν γεγονυῖαν.

    GAIA:
    and some verses we leave to you.

    KUKNEION:
    we sigh. ( . . . ) only my mother
    would let me conversate with goats.

    //

    from hymn to Apollo
    Apologia
    Odyssey XIV
    Ekklesiazusai

    taking notes

    VIII.xiii. ( sh ) eepy ( comfort ) eroes ( of fluff )

    ADEIMANTOS: ( yawns fast asleep ) this feast feels good . .

    strawberry ice creamy . .🍦. . 🍓 . . 🐑

    SOKRATES: and( indeed )( to-by-for )in-every-way( it must be ),

    ( she-he-it-being-binding )( it-he-she-being-need )

    ( she-he-it eats )( you are eaten )( you will be the eating ),

    καὶ πάντῃ ἔδει

    ADEIMANTOS: baaa ( uncountedly ) ( and o, ) comfort ( we )-

    is( are ) your hand in the dark ( my fantasy

    has come alive ) ( in-every-way ) ( if we ) already here

    ( are feasting upon me ) and this dream ( our thought,

    why ) would we ever get out of bed ( ? )

    ( an ancient question ) ( sprinkles! )

    SOKRATES: ( surely )or( why? )( hey! )

    ( else )( as )( to-by-for )( we- )being( a )clown-fraud( pretentious-

    boaster-charlatan-vagabond )( a quack! ),

    ADEIMANTOS: ( not at all ) ( we uffy eep ),

    SOKRATES: not at all( to-by-for )( none-she )to have a share in( to go-

    among )( to allow )( to let-go )( to go-after )

    true( unconcealed )philosophy( wisdom-love ) ( ! )

    ἢ ἀλαζόνι ὄντι μηδαμῇ μετεῖναι φιλοσοφίας ἀληθινῆς.

    ADEIMANTOS: ( ignore him ) and indeed we could

    be Nobodys second coming ( his suntanned curves )

    ( his calloused fingers ) slightly touching mine ( to fluff

    my pillowed fears ) if we were sleepy together

    ( and minding our own business ) ( quiet life )

    its on a farm ( dont ask the neighbors ),

    MEDEIS: and( indeed )( he )moaning( wailing, moaning,

    lamenting, with tears )( me ), o epic-winged-word-songs

    ( he )was speaking-through( to-by-for )me,

    καί μ᾽ ὀλοφυρόμενος ἔπεα πτερόεντα προσηύδα:

    ADEIMANTOS: ( mmm . . . )

    SOKRATES: for( o saying, gathering, choosing, laying-down ),

    ( we are )( they-we-are )( he( we )is( being ) )( we say )in this way,

    saying( gathering, choosing, laying-down )( in this way )

    ( the saying, gathering, choosing, laying-down ),

    ἦν γὰρ οὕτω λεγόμενον.

    ADEIMANTOS: ( gasp! )

    HERAKLES: o sprung-from-Zeus son-of-Laertes, poly-

    mechanos(of many-devices, arts, resources, crafts, means,

    machines)Odysseus,

    διογενὲς Λαερτιάδη, πολυμήχαν᾽ Ὀδυσσεῦ,

    ADEIMANTOS: ( O poly-ecstasy — )

    o Herakles, o Sokrates, o Odysseus, , ,

    ( o all our kings ) ( we want them all ) ( theyre here )

    you whisper sweet secrets in my ear ( its bliss )

    ( its chocolate hazelnut with burnt caramel drizzle )

    ( and how many more heroes can we fit )

    in the same bed? ( in the same mouth ) hm?

    ( whisper me the answer . . . ),

    SOKRATES: therefore( indeed )( isnt )this one( o one )

    exceedingly( vehemently-violently )so,

    οὐκοῦν ἓν μὲν τοῦτο σφόδρα οὕτω

    ADEIMANTOS: you animal! —

    SOKRATES: contrary( to the )opinion( belief )( seeming-they-seemed )

    ( to-by-for )the now-seemings( opinions-beliefs )around( about )him( self )?

    παρὰ δόξαν τοῖς νῦν δοκουμένοις περὶ αὐτοῦ;

    ADEIMANTOS: ( so much so, we cant restrain ourself! — )

    HERAKLES: ah! miserable( cowardly, craven, sorry, poor,

    worthless )man,

    ADEIMANTOS: ( o yes, o no, )

    HERAKLES: or( indeed )( we are )( he was saying ),

    ADEIMANTOS: ( o no, o why, , , )

    HERAKLES: and( indeed, are )you leading( guiding )some evil

    ( bad-ill-ugly )destiny( fate-doom )

    ( doom )

    ( doom )

    ( doom . . . )

    ἆ δείλ᾽, ἦ τινὰ καὶ σὺ κακὸν μόρον ἡγηλάζεις,

    ADEIMANTOS: ( no roosters crow ) ( all roosters peace )

    ( a wall of birdsong approaches from the east )

    ( stretching ) ( waking ) ( oh my ) ( and what a night )

    ( a dream of some lavish delight, and then )

    ( a dream ) of something not quite right ( o well ),

    a morning thought we filtered out ( o honey-dawn,

    o hearing you ) and worry leaves my body in a blink,

    ( sprinkles? )

    SAILORS: and( indeed )very( dyad-under-handed-holdingly ),

    καὶ μάλα,

    SOKRATES: comfort ( we )is( are ) your hand in the dark

    ( gently holding mine ) still warm from sleep,

    SAILORS: (he)was saying,

    ἔφη.

    SOKRATES: ( so that ) this morning ( with your hand )

    tightly holding mine ( we may ) ( as heroes ) ( wake ),

    HERAKLES: which( roundly )( we )i( being )were enduring

    ( suffering, holding-fast )by( from-under )( the )rays-

    beams-sheens( of the )sun,

    ὅν περ ἐγὼν ὀχέεσκον ὑπ᾽ αὐγὰς ἠελίοιο.

    ADEIMANTOS: ( and o the burn, to know him face-to-face.

    and its that hard to put things down today;

    these nights spent wrestling legends in my dreams,

    the words, the thought, the memes, keep twisting things

    and turning round, and running me like trains,

    and nobodys word came down ) just to find myself

    writing it now ( under pressure of the sun, who said )

    as heroes words dont settle for the page.

    ( maybe thats why ) we try to write

    and nothing comes out,

    SOKRATES: ( then is it not )therefore —

    ( o dyad-god )( he binds )( bind, you )( god-needed-bound )

    ( he needs )( need, you )( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ) —

    measuredly

    ( we )will( would )speak-in-defense( speak on behalf )( ? )

    ἆρ᾽ οὖν δὴ οὐ μετρίως ἀπολογησόμεθα

    ADEIMANTOS: then measuredly we speak ( as nothing ) ( but free )

    but fluff ( as clouds of sweetness ) ephemeral stuff

    for you to read anyway ( dissolving on my tongue )

    until youve had enough ( of melting snow ) of me,

    SOKRATES: that he, at least

    ( who is )actually( we-beingly )( a )learning-lover

    ( would be )having-by-nature( origin-growth )

    ( that he )would compete( contend-struggle )

    toward( against )the( we- )being,

    ὅτι πρὸς τὸ ὂν πεφυκὼς εἴη ἁμιλλᾶσθαι ὅ γε ὄντως φιλομαθής,

    ADEIMANTOS: ( that we would say ) to bring it on ( and ) never enough.

    ( and then we would reply again ) ( pink ) bursts

    of cotton candy ( in the shape of men,

    of extraordinary lyric virility,

    to wrestle you ) before you fall asleep

    ( to haunt your dreams and drag you back ) ( musically )

    ( to prove the strength of our reality )

    uth flickers

    //

    from hymn to Apollo

    Republic VI

    Odyssey XI.613-626

    eepy

    comfort

    head full of fluff

    the Delphiad book VII

    ADEIMANTOS: be nice, be good,
    be brains-for-glue, be ready for bed,
    be perimenopausal and crampy;

    SOKRATES: but what(about)(needful-surely-
    binding)the(he-)second(he-)this?

    ADEIMANTOS: but we dont ask ourselves
    to smile through the hurt
    its nothing, if youre already dead
    but we feel it;

    SOKRATES: (we raised-lifted-up)

    ADEIMANTOS: you made us serve;
    you made her wipe your nose!
    couldnt you just have said,
    be a cook, a maid, a nurse?

    SOKRATES: do you)suppose the god to be(a)wizard,
    (an enchanter who howls out enchantments,
    a sorcerer, a juggler, a cheat)?

    ADEIMANTOS: do you suppose
    a heart to be
    an endless void to yell into?

    SOKRATES: and(indeed)(do you suppose the god
    to be such as(would)out-of(a)scheme(she-plot, treachery,
    conspiracy-against, will-design-determination-upon),
    become visible(appear, present-to-the-eye-
    mind, present-to-the-imagination)otherwise,
    in(to-by-for)other ideas(forms-shapes),

    now-and-then(on the one hand)becoming himself,
    and(indeed)changing(altering-exchanging)the eidos(form-
    shape)of-himself into many morphe(shapes-forms),

    then-and-now(on the other hand)cheating(deceiving)us,
    and(indeed)making(these)around himself to seem these(things)?

    or simple(single-straightforward)(making-single, unfolding, spreading-
    and-stretching-out, making-plain)(to make simple),

    and to-be(indeed)(the)least(-worst)of all
    to step-out(of, disembark, dismount, over-
    step)the she-idea(form-
    shape-semblance),
    of-himself?

    τί δὲ δὴ ὁ δεύτερος ὅδε;
    ἆρα γόητα τὸν θεὸν οἴει εἶναι
    καὶ οἷον ἐξ ἐπιβουλῆς φαντάζεσθαι ἄλλοτε
    ἐν ἄλλαις ἰδέαις
    τοτὲ μὲν αὐτὸν γιγνόμενον,
    καὶ ἀλλάττοντα τὸ αὑτοῦ εἶδος εἰς πολλὰς μορφάς,
    τοτὲ δὲ ἡμᾶς ἀπατῶντα καὶ ποιοῦντα περὶ αὑτοῦ τοιαῦτα δοκεῖν,
    ἢ ἁπλοῦν
    τε εἶναι καὶ πάντων ἥκιστα
    τῆς ἑαυτοῦ ἰδέας ἐκβαίνειν;

    KIRKE: o unwearying(man),
    and(indeed)(needful-surely-binding)again(bow wow),
    warlike works have occupied you(r care, interest, thoughts)

    and(indeed)hard work(toil, suffering, stress, pain);

    SOKRATES: but what(about)this?

    (is)nt(she-)necessary(force-constraint),
    if(indeed)some(one)becomes-separated(arises-out-of,
    stands-aside-from, out-of-the-way, ceases-retires-
    from, abandons, degenerates-departs-
    from)(ex-ists)the she-idea
    of-himself,

    (that he)himself change-position(be-placed-in-
    another-way, given-another-instead, set-
    free)(meta-ist)
    either
    by(from-under)himself,
    or by(from-under)an-other?

    τί δὲ τόδε; οὐκ ἀνάγκη, εἴπερ τι ἐξίσταιτο
    τῆς αὑτοῦ ἰδέας,
    ἢ αὐτὸ ὑφ᾽ ἑαυτοῦ μεθίστασθαι ἢ ὑπ᾽ ἄλλου;

    ADEIMANTOS: (to-by-for)the reader
    for her, be happy,
    be grateful for her,
    whomsoever your-hers be

    KIRKE: will(would)you yield(give way, withdraw, depart, comply)
    not even(to-by-for)immortal gods?

    ‘σχέτλιε, καὶ δὴ αὖ τοι πολεμήια ἔργα μέμηλε
    καὶ πόνος: οὐδὲ θεοῖσιν ὑπείξεαι ἀθανάτοισιν;

    ADEIMANTOS: spun(golden)spiderwebs
    from insight binding all the way through the bronze age
    that others have things so much worse

    SOKRATES: therefore, by(from-under)truly(the moon)(the)other,
    the best-least(-worst)(ones)having-holding(other-brunches,
    the best meal)(the best-least-worst-ones),
    are making-different(changing-altering)
    and(indeed)moving, the best-least
    (worst-ones)

    ADEIMANTOS: its a true thing
    to be a warm body
    whose heart is stirring

    SOKRATES: such as(a)body
    by(from-under)bread(grain, rice, corn, food),
    and(indeed)drinks(hydration, flying-drunk, drinking-high),
    and(indeed)hard-work(toil-struggle-labor-mogis-pos),

    ADEIMANTOS: basic things
    and others, which are
    conveniently always there
    for the fortunate

    SOKRATES: and(indeed)all growth(all that grows, plants, trees,
    animal-body too, shaped by nature, without art)
    by(from-under the)warmths-of-the-sun,
    and(indeed, from-all-ways, the)winds,
    and(indeed other)such sufferings,

    (are)nt the healthy-most(o most-healthy)
    and(indeed the)strongest(o most-strong-hard-severe-violent)
    least(-worst)(being)made-different(changing, altering)?

    οὐκοῦν ὑπὸ μὲν ἄλλου
    τὰ ἄριστα ἔχοντα ἥκιστα
    ἀλλοιοῦταί τε καὶ κινεῖται; 

    οἷον σῶμα
    ὑπὸ σιτίων τε καὶ ποτῶν καὶ πόνων,
    καὶ πᾶν φυτὸν
    ὑπὸ εἱλήσεών τε καὶ ἀνέμων
    καὶ τῶν τοιούτων παθημάτων,
    οὐ τὸ ὑγιέστατον καὶ ἰσχυρότατον
    381α] ἥκιστα ἀλλοιοῦται;

    ADEIMANTOS: we-healthy-training
    to be quiet, be silent, be invisible,
    and at the same time to shine

    KIRKE: but she(to-by-for)you(is)not mortal;

    ἡ δέ τοι οὐ θνητή

    SOKRATES: but(her-)soul
    (being)the most-manly-courageous
    and(indeed the)most-phronimos(in-her-senses,
    practical-wisdom-discerning),

    ADEIMANTOS: and yet you call us

    SOKRATES: (o least-worst-he),

    ADEIMANTOS: then dare to question the lack of affection
    but at least part of us
    is laughing

    SOKRATES: wouldnt from-without any pathos(experience-
    passion-suffering-change-affection-accident)
    least(worst)stir-up(trouble-trouble)
    and(indeed)make-different(change,
    alter)(her-the-soul)?

    ψυχὴν δὲ οὐ τὴν ἀνδρειοτάτην
    καὶ φρονιμωτάτην
    ἥκιστ᾽ ἄν τι ἔξωθεν
    πάθος ταράξειέν
    τε καὶ ἀλλοιώσειεν;

    ADEIMANTOS: how do we fathom
    how did they fathom we would
    the world would
    all would
    the sky would
    the earth would
    the ocean would
    the en-souled-wood
    the slow-burning ember
    be haunted by the words

    MEDEIS: but near the beautifully-flowing spring, where(there)
    (the)lord killed(a)she-dragon, child of Zeus, from(a)strong
    bow(you would live and pass your life), well-fed(fat)(goodly)large,

    ἀγχοῦ δὲ κρήνη καλλίρροος, ἔνθα δράκαιναν
    κτεῖνεν ἄναξ, Διὸς υἱός, ἀπὸ κρατεροῖο βιοῖο,
    ζατρεφέα, μεγάλην,

    ADEIMANTOS: we admit it
    we arrived here because
    it feels amazing
    to be reborn a dragon- blooded wizard

    but love asks and answers
    here-and-now
    “when have you given me reason for it?"
    the sweet words
    trying to escape
    on the page, out in(to)the world

    we stop
    out of fear
    but of what exactly
    we ask myself

    well my husband told me
    we need to stop now
    and take a rest day tomorrow
    and hes right
    and we owe him

    everything

    and she to whom we owe
    all this
    being alive
    (as you see) has given me
    a mercy-out

    o lord
    was she Xanthippe?
    did you read that(gossip)story
    about how she poured pee on his head?
    we agree he one-hundred-percent deserved it
    yet somehow we consider me
    extraordinarily lucky
    extraordinarily
    beloved

    when not(somehow) (somewhere)enraged

    anyway
    the valley out
    until edits tomorrow
    read on at himselfs risk
    its rough
    ruff-ruff
    brainmetl

    SOKRATES: and(indeed),
    truly(the moon)somewhere(somehow)
    and(indeed)the(she-dyad)at least,

    according(-through)the logos(word-speech-account)itself,
    the(she-dyad)well-having-working-at(making-doing-
    performing)and(indeed, they)well-having-and-holding,
    by(from-under)time,
    and(indeed)
    by(from-under)the other
    sufferings(misfortunes, emotions, affections, feelings),

    all-compound-composite(dyad-)vessels(outfit-gear),
    and(indeed)house-buildings,
    and garments-wraps-clothes,

    (the)least(worst)makes-different(changes-
    alters)(the least-worst).

    καὶ μήν που καὶ τά γε
    σύνθετα πάντα σκεύη
    τε καὶ οἰκοδομήματα
    καὶ ἀμφιέσματα
    κατὰ τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον
    τὰ εὖ εἰργασμένα
    καὶ εὖ ἔχοντα
    ὑπὸ χρόνου
    τε καὶ τῶν ἄλλων παθημάτων
    ἥκιστα ἀλλοιοῦται.

    MEDEIS: (a)wild(savage, harsh, ungoverned, agrarian)(wonder-)sign
    (a marvel, portent, monstrous monstrosity of wonder),

    τέρας ἄγριον,

    SOKRATES: (the)all,
    (needful-surely-binding)

    has and holds(we have
    and hold)it(having-holding
    )beautifully(the all),

    either(by)nature(-dyad)(would-will produce, make-grow, put-
    forth-scions)(youll wax, spring-up-forth,
    be born, become your nature),

    by art(skill-craft-cunning
    rules-system-method
    -tricks), 

    or by both,

    (the all)admits(approves, allows, gives-ears-to, attends-
    as-possibility)the smallest(least)(-she-)(change)(turnover-
    transition-reversal-eclipse)
    by(from-under the)other.

    πᾶν δὴ τὸ καλῶς ἔχον
    ἢ φύσει ἢ τέχνῃ ἢ ἀμφοτέροις
    ἐλαχίστην μεταβολὴν
    ὑπ᾽ ἄλλου ἐνδέχεται.

    MEDEIS: she-which was doing(offering as sacrifice)many evil(ill-
    ugly)human beings on earth, many selves(on the one hand)
    and many(on the other)long-striding sheep(goats, small
    cattle, apples, rose-apples, peaches, apricots, quince,
    cheeks, girls breasts, under-eye-swellings, tonsils,
    cups shaped like apples),

    ἣ κακὰ πολλὰ
    ἀνθρώπους ἔρδεσκεν ἐπὶ χθονί, πολλὰ μὲν αὐτούς,
    πολλὰ δὲ μῆλα ταναύποδ᾽,

    SOKRATES: but-still(truly the moon)
    the god, at-least, and(indeed)the(she-dyad)of the god
    wholly has(and holds)(youre had and held)(he was pouring-out
    and letting-flow and melting and shedding
    the viper-dyad, to-for-
    by the viper)
    the best.

    ἀλλὰ μὴν ὁ θεός γε
    καὶ τὰ τοῦ θεοῦ
    πάντῃ ἄριστα ἔχει.

    MEDEIS: since(youre following the dyad-word-song),
    (she was)becoming(become, you
    (a)red-tawny misery-bane.

    ἐπεὶ πέλε πῆμα δαφοινόν.

    SOKRATES: to-for-by-this-she, then(needful-surely-binding), the god-
    least(-worst)would hold(check-curb-keep-back-restrain-
    hold-have-conceive-receive-involve-
    be-capable-of)many shapes.

    ταύτῃ μὲν δὴ ἥκιστα ἂν πολλὰς μορφὰς ἴσχοι ὁ θεός.

    MEDEIS: and once(o real-drunk, a)receptacle(receiving)(bringing
    to light, showing-forth)of(from)gold-throned Hera, (she)brought-up
    (reared, kept, grew, let-grow, contained)(thickening,
    becoming curdled, firm)

    καὶ ποτε δεξαμένη χρυσοθρόνου ἔτρεφεν Ἥρης

    SOKRATES: but still then-and-there, would he-himself turn-
    about(throw-into a different position, undergo a change)
    and make different(change, alter)himself?

    ἀλλ᾽ ἆρα αὐτὸς αὑτὸν μεταβάλλοι ἂν καὶ ἀλλοιοῖ;

    MEDEIS: the terrible(dread-wondrous-clever-strange)and
    painful(troublesome-vexatious)Typhon, misery-bane(to-by-
    for)mortals(blood-
    gore);

    ( δεινόν τ᾽ ἀργαλέον τε Τυφάονα, πῆμα βροτοῖσιν ):

    SOKRATES: which therefore,
    does he turn about(throw into a different position, undergo
    a change)(you turn and change)himself
    for the better and(indeed)more beautiful,
    or for the worse(lowlier-meaner)and the uglier of himself?

    πότερον οὖν
    ἐπὶ τὸ βέλτιόν τε καὶ κάλλιον
    μεταβάλλει ἑαυτὸν
    ἢ ἐπὶ τὸ χεῖρον καὶ τὸ αἴσχιον ἑαυτοῦ;

    MEDEIS: which-whom(drunk-as)ever(then-and-there)(she was tilling)(sowing)
    (to raise-up)(she raised-up)(we raised-up)(be raised, you)(o prayers)(o vows)
    (o curses)(she, striving, gained)Hera-angering,
    (to-by-for)Zeus-father,
    was bringing(him-it)forth,

    ὅν ποτ᾽ ἄρ᾽ Ἥρη ἔτικτε χολωσαμένη Διὶ πατρί,

    SOKRATES: most correct; but(we were,

    they were, he was, we say)say(you)we.

    and(indeed)thus of having(holding)does anyone seem
    (you self-seem)(by a kind of meteor)to-for-by you,
    O Adeimantos(fearless prophet),
    willingly to make himself worse(lowlier-meaner)
    (he was mastering-subduing)(master-
    subdue, you)in any way whatsoever,
    among gods or among human beings?

    ὀρθότατα, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ, λέγεις.
    καὶ οὕτως ἔχοντος δοκεῖ ἄν τίς σοι,
    ὦ Ἀδείμαντε, ἑκὼν αὑτὸν χείρω ποιεῖν
    ὁπῃοῦν ἢ θεῶν ἢ ἀνθρώπων;

    MEDEIS: when(there-and-then)(we raised-up)(dyad-prayer)(dyad-ruin)
    (we have taught)(she has taught)(the One)the glorious son of Kronos
    brought-into-the-world(Athena)(Athens)the city
    in(to-for-by)the head(crown-peak-
    summit-apex-extremity-
    tip, the sum);

    ἡνίκ᾽ ἄρα Κρονίδης ἐρικυδέα γείνατ᾽ Ἀθήνην
    ἐν κορυφῇ:

    HOMER: but(he)addressed(the agora)himself,

    αὐτὸς δέ σφ᾽ ἀγόρευε,

    SOKRATES: impossible then-and-there,
    (we)were saying, and(indeed,
    to-by-for the)god(altering)
    to wish to alter himself,

    but-still as(it)seems,
    (the)most-beautiful-and-best-being
    with-respect(in)to(its)potential
    each(among)selves,

    (it)remains(you remain)(might-force-
    strength-dyad)(by force)always simple
    in the shape of itself.

    ἀδύνατον ἄρα, ἔφην,
    καὶ θεῷ ἐθέλειν αὑτὸν ἀλλοιοῦν,
    ἀλλ᾽ ὡς ἔοικε,
    κάλλιστος καὶ ἄριστος ὢν
    εἰς τὸ δυνατὸν
    ἕκαστος αὐτῶν
    μένει ἀεὶ ἁπλῶς
    ἐν τῇ αὑτοῦ μορφῇ.

    MEDEIS: but she-lady-mistress Hera quickly angered
    and(was eating)after gathering(by begging)together
    (the)immortals, she said;

    ἣ δ᾽ αἶψα χολώσατο πότνια Ἥρη
    ἠδὲ καὶ ἀγρομένοισι μετ᾽ ἀθανάτοισιν ἔειπε:

    HERA: hear(of)me(you all), o all(children and fathers)gods(she would shine)
    and all(o all)(get it, you)(to sprinkle)(she would sprinkle)(besprinkle
    pharmakon)(be partaken)(by all)(by the goddess)goddesses,

    ( κέκλυτέ μευ, πάντες τε θεοὶ πᾶσαί τε θέαιναι ),

    SOKRATES: but-still, then-and-there,
    but(we were, they were, he was, we say)we(you)say,

    (are)the gods(them)selves(on the one hand)(we are)
    such-as wouldnt throw-after(to turn quickly),

    but(to-by-for)our makings(they make)to seem(of she)selves
    to appear(come-to-light)(shine-forth)(saffron-veiled, like the dawn)
    (to reveal)of-every(kind, sorts, folds, ways, countries, shapes, . .),

    deceiving(beguiling, seducing, swindling, tricking, cheating)and(indeed)
    ensorceling(bewitching, beguiling, fascinating,
    howling-wizard-
    playing)(we)?

    ἀλλ᾽ ἆρα, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
    αὐτοὶ μὲν οἱ θεοί εἰσιν οἷοι μὴ μεταβάλλειν,
    ἡμῖν δὲ ποιοῦσιν δοκεῖν σφᾶς παντοδαποὺς φαίνεσθαι,
    ἐξαπατῶντες καὶ γοητεύοντες;

    HERA: as(first)cloud(dyad)gatherer Zeus leads(begins-governs)to dishonor me
    first, since(you are and approach the dyad-word-song)(he)made
    me(poetry, a)careful-knowing-wife(of knowing);

    ὡς ἔμ᾽ ἀτιμάζειν ἄρχει νεφεληγερέτα Ζεὺς
    πρῶτος, ἐπεί μ᾽ ἄλοχον ποιήσατο κέδν᾽ εἰδυῖαν:

    SOKRATES: but what? but(we were,
    they were, he was, we say)we(you)say;

    would(the)god(o god)wish to be cheated(balked, disappointed,
    deceived, mistaken)either(to-by-for the)logos(word-
    speech-account)or(to-by-for the)work(act-
    deed)stretching-forth(holding-out
    )(a)phantasm?

    τί δέ; ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ:
    ψεύδεσθαι θεὸς ἐθέλοι
    ἂν ἢ λόγῳ ἢ ἔργῳ
    φάντασμα προτείνων;

    HERA: and(indeed)now, apart(from)me(you would throw-up)he
    brought-forth(bring-forth, you)gleaming-eyed(Athena)(Athens)(the city),

    καὶ νῦν ( νόσφιν ἐμεῖο ) τέκε γλαυκῶπιν Ἀθήνην,

    SOKRATES: dont(you)(you-have-seen)know,
    but(we were, they were, he was, we say)we(you)say,

    that at-least as the true(unconcealedly)falsehood(lie),
    if and such(as)this to speak,
    all gods and(indeed)human beings(to-by-for hatings)hate(that)?

    οὐκ οἶσθα, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
    ὅτι τό γε ὡς ἀληθῶς ψεῦδος,

    εἰ οἷόν τε τοῦτο εἰπεῖν,
    πάντες θεοί τε καὶ ἄνθρωποι μισοῦσιν;

    HERA: she(-all-)distinguised(she distinguishes)(your-self-distinguishing)
    (possession)among all(children and fathers)(the)blessed immortals(she
    would)(they make immortal)(by makings immortal);

    ἣ πᾶσιν μακάρεσσι μεταπρέπει ἀθανάτοισιν:

    SOKRATES: in-this-way, but(we were,
    they were, he was, we say)we(you)say,

    that no one(o no one)willingly wishes, somehow, (to-by-for)the lord-
    master(authority-with-most-power, most-sovereign)of themselves
    to be cheated(deceived-beguiled), and(indeed)
    about(around)the lord-masters(authority-mosts),

    but-still, of-all, (he)fears the-most, to-have-been-got(ten,
    acquired, possessed)there,
    (in his lord-master).

    οὕτως, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
    ὅτι τῷ κυριωτάτῳ που ἑαυτῶν ψεύδεσθαι
    καὶ περὶ τὰ κυριώτατα οὐδεὶς ἑκὼν ἐθέλει,
    ἀλλὰ πάντων μάλιστα φοβεῖται ἐκεῖ αὐτὸ κεκτῆσθαι.

    ACHILLES: but in — (he)stuck(planted-fixed-firmly-fast,
    the skolops)pointed(spears, thorns, palisades, hooks);

    ἐν δὲ σκόλοπας κατέπηξεν:

    SOKRATES: for you suppose me, (we)were saying,
    to speak something revered(august-holy-stately-majestic-proud-
    haughty-solemn-pompous-grand);

    but(we-being-we)say that(to-by-for)the soul
    (around)about the beings
    to be deceived(cheated-beguiled)
    and(indeed)to have-been-deceived(beguiled)
    and(indeed)to be ignorant(stupid, unlearned)
    and(indeed)to have-and-hold, here-then-and-there,
    and(indeed)to-have-been-got(ten, acquired, possessed)
    all(o all)least(-worst)would receive
    (or show-forth)the falsehood(lie),
    and(indeed, they)hate(by hatings)most
    (it)self in the such-as-that.

    οἴει γάρ τί με, ἔφην, σεμνὸν λέγειν:
    ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὅτι τῇ ψυχῇ
    περὶ τὰ ὄντα
    ψεύδεσθαί τε καὶ ἐψεῦσθαι
    καὶ ἀμαθῆ εἶναι καὶ ἐνταῦθα ἔχειν

    τε καὶ κεκτῆσθαι τὸ ψεῦδος πάντες ἥκιστα ἂν δέξαιντο,
    καὶ μισοῦσι μάλιστα αὐτὸ ἐν τῷ τοιούτῳ.

    HERA: nevertheless, he who at least has been weakly-halting-born(to have
    been born)(they had been born)among all(children and fathers)gods
    (by possession)

    αὐτὰρ ὅ γ᾽ ἠπεδανὸς γέγονεν μετὰ πᾶσι θεοῖσι

    SOKRATES: but-still(truly the moon)
    at-least(would be the)most(plural)correct,

    he-which just-now(we-they)were saying(the elegy),
    this, as truly(unconcealedly)lie(falsehood)would(will)be called,
    she(who)in(to)the soul un-knows(her)she(self)of-him(self)having-been-deceived;
    (wags tail)

    ἀλλὰ μὴν ὀρθότατά γ᾽ ἄν,
    ὃ νυνδὴ ἔλεγον,
    τοῦτο ὡς ἀληθῶς ψεῦδος καλοῖτο,
    ἡ ἐν τῇ ψυχῇ ἄγνοια ἡ τοῦ ἐψευσμένου: 

    since(you are already following the dyad-word-song)
    that some(kind-of)copy(counterfeit-imitation), at least
    in(to)the words(speeches-accounts)of-him(self)
    in(to)the soul(we)is(are)(a copy)of suffering(misfortune, affection
    and(indeed)having-later-becoming(an)eidolon(image-phantom-idol),
    not(wholly)perfectly(an)un-mixed falsehood(lie).

    ἐπεὶ τό γε ἐν τοῖς λόγοις μίμημά τι τοῦ
    ἐν τῇ ψυχῇ ἐστὶν παθήματος
    καὶ ὕστερον γεγονὸς εἴδωλον,
    οὐ πάνυ ἄκρατον ψεῦδος. 

    or(why?)as(if)not(eh!)in-this-way?

    ἢ οὐχ οὕτω;

    HERA: my(all)child(child and father)Hephaistos, shrivelled-shrunken-
    crooked feet, him-it(we brought-forth)(they brought-forth)(bringing-
    forth)herself(o herself);

    παῖς ἐμὸς Ἥφαιστος, ῥικνὸς πόδας, ὃν τέκον αὐτή:

    SOKRATES: the(truly the moon)(binding-surely-needful)
    (to-by-for)the-being lie(falsehood in relation to “what is”)
    not only by(from-under)gods
    but-still and(indeed)by(from-under)human beings
    (is)hated.

    τὸ μὲν δὴ
    τῷ ὄντι ψεῦδος

    οὐ μόνον ὑπὸ θεῶν
    ἀλλὰ καὶ ὑπ᾽ ἀνθρώπων
    μισεῖται.

    HERA: (my)shame, whom(to-by-for)me(she would throw-up)
    and(indeed, my)blame(reproach-disgrace-censure)into the sky(heaven)(whom)
    and(indeed)herself(o herself)

    αἶσχος ἐμοὶ καὶ ὄνειδος ἐν οὐρανῷ ὅντε καὶ αὐτή

    SOKRATES: but what(about the)(needful-surely-
    binding)in(to)the speeches(words-accounts)lie?
    and(when indeed)ever(o drinkin)(to-by-for)it(d
    be)useful(serviceable),
    so-as not to-be worthy(of)hatred?

    τί δὲ δὴ τὸ ἐν τοῖς λόγοις ψεῦδος;
    πότε καὶ τῷ χρήσιμον,
    ὥστε μὴ ἄξιον εἶναι μίσους;

    (they raised-up)(be raised, you!)
    (we raise up)(to raise up!)(drinkincups?)

    (is it)not toward hostile-enemies
    and(indeed, before beauty-will-being-)called-friends,
    when through madness(mania)
    or some un-thoughtful(foolish)evil(ill-ugly)
    (they)would attempt doing something,
    then(it)comes-to-be useful(servicable)
    as(a)pharmakon(drug-medicine-cure)
    for-the-sake-of turning-away(prevention)?

    ἆρ᾽ οὐ πρός τε τοὺς πολεμίους καὶ τῶν καλουμένων φίλων,
    ὅταν διὰ μανίαν ἤ τινα ἄνοιαν κακόν τι ἐπιχειρῶσιν πράττειν,
    τότε ἀποτροπῆς ἕνεκα ὡς φάρμακον χρήσιμον γίγνεται;

    and in which(-she-whiches)just-now(we)were saying
    (to-for-by)mythologia(word-story-speech-accounts),
    through it not to(have-seen)know
    in-which-way(the)true(unconcealed)has-and-holds
    (you, viper-dyad, are having-and-being-held,
    to-by-for the viper)about(around)the ancients
    (making-ancient)(o making-ancient)(making-ancient),

    making-like, (to-by-for)the(she-dyad)true, the falsehood(lie)(like it),
    (and)that(as)much(as possible), thus
    (we)make(it)useful(serviceable)?

    καὶ ἐν αἷς νυνδὴ ἐλέγομεν ταῖς μυθολογίαις,
    διὰ τὸ μὴ εἰδέναι ὅπῃ τἀληθὲς ἔχει περὶ τῶν παλαιῶν,
    ἀφομοιοῦντες τῷ ἀληθεῖ τὸ ψεῦδος ὅτι μάλιστα,
    οὕτω χρήσιμον ποιοῦμεν;

    HERA: we hurled-cast-threw(she threw)(to throw)(be thrown, you)(by braided-
    work)(o hurling)(o dyad-king)(o dyad-accomplishment)(o lord)(o dyad-
    fulfilment)(o silly-witless)(we will be lord)upwards(to-by-for)hands

    ῥῖψ᾽ ἀνὰ χερσὶν

    SOKRATES: according(through)what,
    (needful-surely-binding)then, of these,
    (to-by-for)the god,
    (is)the falsehood(lie), useful(serviceable)?

    (is it)because-of(that)which(he does)nt(having-seen)know,
    (or through)making-like the(she-dyad-)ancients,
    (that he)would be deceived(beguiled)?

    κατὰ τί δὴ οὖν τούτων τῷ θεῷ τὸ ψεῦδος χρήσιμον;
    πότερον διὰ τὸ μὴ εἰδέναι τὰ παλαιὰ ἀφομοιῶν ἂν ψεύδοιτο;

    HERA: (dyad-)(will-be-)(taking-seizing-grasping)(conquering by force)
    and(indeed)(they throw-in)(throw-in, you)(o throwing-in)we threw-in
    (dyad-breadth to)by(for)the wide-broad sea;

    ἑλοῦσα καὶ ἔμβαλον εὐρέι πόντῳ:

    SOKRATES: (a)poet(author)(on the one hand)
    there-and-then false(lying-untrue)in(to)god-
    is-in-not.

    ποιητὴς μὲν ἄρα ψευδὴς ἐν θεῷ οὐκ ἔνι.

    ACHILLES: but still, not even so
    (is he)able
    to hold(keep-back-restrain)
    (the)strength(of)man-slaying Hektor;

    ἀλλ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ὧς δύναται σθένος Ἕκτορος ἀνδροφόνοιο
    ἴσχειν:

    SOKRATES: but-still, fearing
    the hated(ones, hostile enemies),
    (he would)lie?

    ἀλλὰ δεδιὼς τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ψεύδοιτο;

    HERA: but-still(dyad-)silver-footed Thetis, (the)dauther of Nereus, accepted-
    received-heard-welcomed(brought-to-light, showed-forth, made-
    known, explained, exhibited)her

    ἀλλά ἑ Νηρῆος θυγάτηρ Θέτις ἀργυρόπεζα

    SOKRATES: but-still,
    through familiars(family-house),
    on-account-of un-thinking(folly),
    or madness(mania)?

    ἀλλὰ δι᾽ οἰκείων ἄνοιαν ἢ μανίαν;

    HERA: and(indeed)among(with)those(she would let go, utter, speak, throw, shoot, let-
    flow, pour, spout-forth)sisters, (she would)(will-to)take-care(provide-
    for, attend-to, receive, carry-safe-away, rescue).

    δέξατο καὶ μετὰ ᾗσι κασιγνήτῃσι κόμισσεν.

    SOKRATES: not there-and-then
    (they raised-up)(be raised, you!)
    (we raise up)(to raise up!)
    (we)is(being),
    for-the-sake-of-(itself)-god-would-lie.

    οὐκ ἄρα ἔστιν οὗ ἕνεκα ἂν θεὸς ψεύδοιτο.

    ACHILLES: but as-long-as(we were)waging-war amongst(the)Achaians
    Hektor(was)not willing to stir-up(urge-on, incite, arouse,
    awaken, call-forth)(the she-)battle from(the city)wall,

    ὄφρα δ᾽ ἐγὼ μετ᾽ Ἀχαιοῖσιν πολέμιζον
    οὐκ ἐθέλεσκε μάχην ἀπὸ τείχεος ὀρνύμεν Ἕκτωρ,

    SOKRATES: wholly there-and-then
    (they raised-up)(be raised, you!)
    (we raise up)(to raise up!)
    un-false(be)
    the(daimonic)daimonion
    and(indeed)the god.

    πάντῃ ἄρα ἀψευδὲς τὸ δαιμόνιόν τε καὶ τὸ θεῖον.

    ACHILLES: but-still(he)was coming as-far-as(the)Skaiai gates
    and(indeed the)oak tree;

    where(there)once(drunk)(alone)was staying(remaining,
    awaiting)alone,

    ἀλλ᾽ ὅσον ἐς Σκαιάς τε πύλας καὶ φηγὸν ἵκανεν:
    ἔνθά ποτ᾽ οἶον ἔμιμνε,

    SOKRATES: exactly(to-by-for)care(attendance, being-
    looked-after, cared-for, for horses, for plants, in comforts and supplies)
    the simple(making-single, unfolding, stretching-out)(to make-simple)god
    and(indeed the)true(unconcealing)
    and in(the)work(deed-act)
    and(indeed)in(the)logos(word-speech-account),

    and(indeed)neither(does the)self change(position, make-way, cease, alter)
    nor(does he)deceive(trick-seduce-beguile)others
    (he is deceiving)(you would be and are deceived)
    nor according(through)phantasia(imagination)
    nor according(through)speeches(words-accounts)

    nor according(through)(the)guidance(escort-
    conduct of)signs(traces-tokens),
    neither waking, nor
    sleeping, dreams.

    κομιδῇ ἄρα ὁ θεὸς ἁπλοῦν καὶ ἀληθὲς ἔν τε ἔργῳ καὶ λόγῳ,
    καὶ οὔτε αὐτὸς μεθίσταται οὔτε ἄλλους ἐξαπατᾷ,
    οὔτε κατὰ φαντασίας οὔτε κατὰ λόγους οὔτε κατὰ σημείων πομπάς,
    οὔθ᾽ ὕπαρ οὐδ᾽ ὄναρ.

    ACHILLES: but mogis(with toil and pain, hardly, scarcely, just, only just, only
    after long years)(did he)escape my onslaught
    (onset, assault, attack, invasion, rage,
    shock, cast, impulse, effort, rush
    to strip a fallen foe — )

    μόγις δέ μευ ἔκφυγεν ὁρμήν.

    SOKRATES: (you)agree(with and yield)there-and-then
    (they raised-up)(be raised, you!)(we raise up)(to raise up!),

    we were saying,

    this second blow(beat-stamp-impression-mark-hollow-cast
    replica-image-form-shape-model-impression-outline-
    sketch-style-etc)to-be,

    in which its(needing)(its binding)(need, you)(bind, you)necessary
    about(around)gods(and goddesses and seeings)
    and(indeed)to speak and(indeed)to make,

    as neither being(howling)wizards(them)selves
    (to-for-by)which to throw(turning-changing)after themselves,
    nor(to-by-for)falsehoods(lies)to(mis)lead(divert,
    influence, persuade, introdue)bring-us-forward,
    in logos(word-speech-account)or in work(deed-act)?

    συγχωρεῖς ἄρα, ἔφην,
    τοῦτον δεύτερον τύπον εἶναι
    ἐν ᾧ δεῖ περὶ θεῶν καὶ λέγειν καὶ ποιεῖν,
    ὡς μήτε αὐτοὺς γόητας ὄντας τῷ μεταβάλλειν ἑαυτοὺς
    μήτε ἡμᾶς ψεύδεσι παράγειν ἐν λόγῳ ἢ ἐν ἔργῳ;

    ADEIMANTOS: we agree

    συγχωρῶ.

    SOKRATES: (dyads)many(dyads)
    (they raised-up)(be raised, you!)(we raise up)(to raise up!),
    (of)Homer(we are)praising(o praising)(applauding)(commending),

    but-still(this, )(we will not and would)not praise,
    the guidance(conduct-escort of)dreams
    by(from-under)Zeus, to-for-by Agamemnon;
    (Agamemnons not good at receiving dreams)
    (and)neither of Aeschylus, (well drunkenly sing),
    when she-Thetis would say he-Apollo, in her own wedding feasts,
    (was)pleasing(delighting)(finding favor and acceptance)(gratifying)
    “to be divided-distributed those-her well-blessed-children”
    “infinite(inexperiences in)(lands of)sicknesses(anguishes, plagues)

    and(indeed)long-lasting lives(and ways and means of living),
    and all-together(o all-together)saying(o saying,
    o)beloved-of-gods my fortunes(of fortune)
    (o dyad)paean-deliverer-healer-choral-song(he)shouted assent,
    my being-in-cheerful-hearted-delight.
    we(i)being the mouth(o mouth)un-false(trusty-sincere)
    the god of Phoibos(shining-radiant-pure)
    (they and we)were expecting(and hoping for)to-be,
    being-full-to-bursting(tree moss, oyster-green, liverwort,

    catkin, hazel-blossom, marsh-plant, or mossy sea-weed)
    (to-by-for)(the she-)prophetic(oracular)art(skill-craft-cunning);

    but he, himself singing(o singing), himself(the light-ship)being-present

    (o bring-present)(being-near)(having-arrived)in(the)she-feast,
    himself(o)this-she-dyad speaking,
    himself(we)is(being)he-killing
    the child of mine —

    πολλὰ ἄρα Ὁμήρου ἐπαινοῦντες,
    ἀλλὰ τοῦτο οὐκ ἐπαινεσόμεθα,
    τὴν τοῦ ἐνυπνίου πομπὴν ὑπὸ Διὸς τῷ Ἀγαμέμνονι:
    οὐδὲ Αἰσχύλου,
    ὅταν φῇ ἡ Θέτις τὸν Ἀπόλλω ἐν τοῖς αὑτῆς
    γάμοις ᾁδοντα “ἐνδατεῖσθαι τὰς ἑὰς εὐπαιδίας”

    Hom. Il. 2.1—
    “νόσων τ᾽ ἀπείρους καὶ μακραίωνας βίους,
    ξύμπαντά τ᾽ εἰπὼν θεοφιλεῖς ἐμὰς τύχας
    παιᾶν᾽ ἐπηυφήμησεν, εὐθυμῶν ἐμέ.
    κἀγὼ τὸ Φοίβου θεῖον ἀψευδὲς στόμα
    ἤλπιζον εἶναι, μαντικῇ βρύον τέχνῃ:
    ὁ δ᾽, αὐτὸς ὑμνῶν, αὐτὸς ἐν θοίνῃ παρών,
    αὐτὸς τάδ᾽ εἰπών, αὐτός ἐστιν ὁ κτανὼν
    τὸν παῖδα τὸν ἐμόν—
    ”Aesch. Frag. 350

    when someone would speak(you would be spoken)these things
    about(around)gods(goddesses, seeings),
    (we)will be severe(sore, grievous, wild-blustering rage)
    and(indeed we)will not give(the)chorus(dance),
    neither will(would we)let-go(dismiss)the teachers upon education
    to use(proclaim an oracle)of the(swimming, spinning, piling-
    up in heaps)young,
    if(they are)about to become(by being likely to or delaying)we,
    the guardians serving-the-god(you are god-serving)
    and(indeed)divine(uncles)(o uncles),
    according(through)as many as(to-for-by a)human being
    on the most such-as and.

    ὅταν τις τοιαῦτα λέγῃ περὶ θεῶν,
    χαλεπανοῦμέν τε καὶ χορὸν οὐ δώσομεν,

    οὐδὲ τοὺς διδασκάλους ἐάσομεν ἐπὶ παιδείᾳ χρῆσθαι τῶν νέων,
    εἰ μέλλουσιν ἡμῖν οἱ φύλακες θεοσεβεῖς τε καὶ θεῖοι γίγνεσθαι,
    καθ᾽ ὅσον ἀνθρώπῳ ἐπὶ πλεῖστον οἷόν τε.

    ADEIMANTOS: all-in-all

    παντάπασιν, ἔφη,

    SOKRATES: (we)i(being)at least agreeing-with(yielding-to)these blows(stamps,
    impressions, imprints, beats, engravings, reliefs, shapes, etc),
    and(indeed)as(to-by-for)laws(and customs)
    would(consult as an oracle)use.

    ἔγωγε τοὺς τύπους τούτους συγχωρῶ,
    καὶ ὡς νόμοις ἂν χρῴμην.