Butterflies
VIII.xii. end goal-( wild-( in a language( the wave of )unknown )-fire )-fighting sleep
ADEIMANTOS: hold on to your buts,
MEDEIS( NOBODY ): O( to-by-for )me( we )i( being )cowardly( vile,
worthless, lowborn, mean, afraid, miserable, wretched, poor ),
ADEIMANTOS: we ask myself,
MEDEIS: what( someone )now( to-by-for )me longest-
lasting( would be )born?
ὤ μοι ἐγὼ δειλός, τί νύ μοι μήκιστα γένηται;
ADEIMANTOS: keep your ifs inside the she-vessel,
PINDAR: ( o )HIGHEST( uppermost, most supreme )horse-driver
( charioteer )( thunder-hurler )( lyre-striker )( rower )
( who drives away )( a broad, flat cake )( hoop-stick )
of untiring( of foot )thunder —
( astonishment ! )
ZEUS,
ἐλατὴρ ὑπέρτατε βροντᾶς ἀκαμαντόποδος Ζεῦ:
ADEIMANTOS: but keep your ands easy to reach-for,
HERAKLES: but he( and yall )inflicted upon( imposed )
( commanded-charged-prescribed )
( gave an order )( to-by-for )me
difficult( cruel-harsh-stern-dangerous-violent-
malignant )tasks( contests-conflicts
struggles-ordeals ),
ὁ δέ μοι χαλεποὺς ἐπετέλλετ᾽ ἀέθλους.
ADEIMANTOS: good thing ( its not the end goal ) that matters,
as swirling voices ( we really believe ),
and were not sure yet if its irony,
but ( the way you respond only to me )
would momentarily become difficult,
MEDEIS: we( would )fear lest
( it )( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need,
you )( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ),
all( the )( dyad- )goddess( unerring )infallible said,
(300) δείδω μὴ δὴ πάντα θεὰ νημερτέα εἶπεν,
ADEIMANTOS: and ( my skin is electricity ) charged
with the polarity of poetries,
( we-turning ) languages of men
inside organic me,
PINDAR: for your( she- )SEASONS( being-fitting-times ),
τεαὶ γὰρ ὧραι
MEDEIS: she spoke( to-by-for )me in the sea,
ἥ μ᾽ ἔφατ᾽ ἐν πόντῳ,
ADEIMANTOS: aiming less for instability,
PINDAR: TURNING( -dancing- )ROUND( whirling-
plying )( winding-minding )under the subtle( -many-
colored-complex-dappled-embroidered-wily-unstable-
)notes of the lyre-( phorminx )-SONG —
ὑπὸ ποικιλοφόρμιγγος ἀοιδᾶς ἑλισσόμεναί
ADEIMANTOS: balancing the two of these,
bearing witness to his nostos,
MEDEIS: before( you )come( reach )( approach )
( supplicate )( the she- )fatherland( she )earth,
πρὶν πατρίδα γαῖαν ἱκέσθαι,
ADEIMANTOS: or coming home to his witnessing,
PINDAR: ( they-she )SENT me,
μ᾽ ἔπεμψαν
ADEIMANTOS: and ( its the journey ) we say OUT LOUD,
as we can barely hear herself,
over these hims,
MEDEIS: ( you would )FULFILL( have full measure of )
( you would feel pains )( he was feeling pains )
( feel pain, you )( dyad- )PAIN( sufferings, grief ),
ἄλγε᾽ ἀναπλήσειν:
ADEIMANTOS: dipping fingers
in the teacup,
PINDAR: ( as )WITNESS( o witness )( o guardian )
of the HIGHEST( loftiest )( proudest )
contests( struggles, tasks, conflicts, ORDEALS ),
ὑψηλοτάτων μάρτυρ᾽ ἀέθλων.
SOKRATES: ( we )i( being )( to-by-for )you,
ἐγώ σοι,
ADEIMANTOS: ( in a language )
we are learning as we go along,
( we hear the air crackling )
with some almighty agreements,
with some almighty friends,
MEDEIS: but now all of( she- )this
( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be )
( will be )( is )accomplished,
τὰ δὲ δὴ νῦν πάντα τελεῖται.
ADEIMANTOS: as the dog hears too,
PINDAR: but( of )guest-friends( XENION )
( strangers, hosts, foreigners )doing( FARING )WELL,
GOOD( brave, stout, faithful, well-bred )( men )
WAG the TAIL( show joyful-delight and fondness )
( fawn-upon )( pay-court-to )( greet )( gladden )
FORTHWITH( at once )( immediately )( on the spot )
( o drinker, take a drink! )
toward( the )SWEET( fresh, pleasant, deligtful )
MESSAGE( tidings-news-report-announcement-
messenger ),
ξείνων δ᾽ εὖ πρασσόντων ἔσαναν αὐτίκ᾽ ἀγγελίαν
ποτὶ γλυκεῖαν ἐσλοί.
ADEIMANTOS: whats the message, o Sokrates?
SOKRATES: ( o saying )( the saying )
( say, you! )they say( we say )
( the saying )
( the weight that falls on a mouse in a trap ),
εἶπον,
ADEIMANTOS: but whats that mousetrappy thing?
its always kind of showing up
but he leaves hooks concealed so far in
its ( unknown to almost everyone else )
its unknown even to him until
we unexpectedly stumble on the answer
( when your hand moves on paths )
when the mousetraps catch us,
MEDEIS: ( to-by-for )such clouds Zeus enwreathes
( crowns-around )( you are surrounded, enwreathed )
( the )wide( broad )sky( heavens ),
οἵοισιν νεφέεσσι περιστέφει οὐρανὸν εὐρὺν
Ζεύς,
PINDAR: but still,
[10] ἀλλ᾽,
ADEIMANTOS: as ( someone said )
who wasnt nobody,
MEDEIS: but( he )stirs up( troubles )( agitates )( throws
into disorder )( confusion )( and anarchy )( the )sea,
ἐτάραξε δὲ πόντον,
ADEIMANTOS: but hes not anarchist at all,
PINDAR: O CHILD of Kronos,
ὦ Κρόνου παῖ,
ADEIMANTOS: but not quite dyadic
enough for nobody,
MEDEIS: but( the )storm( whirl- )winds urge-on
( to-by-for )( rushing )( blowing-furiously )( of )winds of all sorts,
ἐπισπέρχουσι δ᾽ ἄελλαι
(305) παντοίων ἀνέμων.
ADEIMANTOS: yet we-being pharmakronik,
PINDAR: ( you )who( o VIPERS! )( you pour out )
( you )have-and-hold( Mount )Aetna,
ὃς Αἴτναν ἔχεις,
ADEIMANTOS: as he grabs me by
the ( horses ) heartstrings,
MEDEIS: now( to-by-for )me safe( sure, certain,
sound, alive and well )( would be )sheer
( utter )( high and steep )( lofty )( towering )destruction( ruin )( death ),
νῦν μοι σῶς αἰπὺς ὄλεθρος.
ADEIMANTOS: he cant help it, he cant resist,
somebody feels like the kind of dad
such as nobody wishes he could have had,
PINDAR: ( the )WINDY( airy )( rapid-rushing )
( stirred and filled by the wind )dropping-
WEIGHT( EIPON )( mouse-trap-song )
( of )strong( mighty )( o dyad- )hundred-
( HEKATO-KEPHALAS )-headed TYPHON,
ἶπον ἀνεμόεσσαν ἑκατογκεφάλα Τυφῶνος ὀβρίμου,
ADEIMANTOS: but both of them agree
and came to celebrate our victory lap,
with-in-lap-towering,
MEDEIS: thrice blessed( the )Danaans,
τρὶς μάκαρες Δαναοὶ
PINDAR: RECEIVE( the )Olympic-conqueror !
this merry-making( REVELRY )( carousal )
( procession )( parade )( ode )
by( aid )of the GRACES( Chariton ),
Οὐλυμπιονίκαν δέκευ
Χαρίτων ἕκατι τόνδε κῶμον,
MEDEIS: and( indeed )four times!
καὶ τετράκις,
ADEIMANTOS: and somehow somebody
he captures beauty
in that old reach for glory,
PINDAR: ( this )after the LONGEST time( long-
expected )( late? NEVER! )( most enduring )
( most in-the-end )( most coming-in-due-course )LIGHT
( o light! )( of )far-and-widely-reaching-POWERFUL EXCELLENCE.
χρονιώτατον φάος εὐρυσθενέων ἀρετᾶν.
ADEIMANTOS: and if we combine them,
SOKRATES: and if such as( he )
( we )come-into-being( are born,
produced, fall due, take-place, come-
to-pass )( you ),
ἂν οἷός τε γένωμαι,
ADEIMANTOS: we have to admit
somebodys ode
( makes me forget )
about my sorrows for a minute,
PINDAR: for( it )comes( attains-to )( reaches )( the )CHARIOT
( carriages )( shelters )( harbors )( vessels )
of PSAUMIS( victor in the MULE race ),
Ψαύμιος γὰρ ἵκει [20]
ὀχέων,
ADEIMANTOS: both hold me familiar
as ( weve allowed to be traced )
some underwater lines,
MEDEIS: who perished( died )then in wide( broad )Troy,
οἳ τότ᾽ ὄλοντο
Τροίῃ
PINDAR: who, ( being )WREATHED( and crowned )
( to-by-for the )OLIVE tree( of )Pisa,
ὅς, ἐλαίᾳ στεφανωθεὶς Πισάτιδι,
ADEIMANTOS: reminders of those
with whom we used to wish
that we could coexist,
MEDEIS: bringing grace( favor, gratitude )( gratification )
( pleasure, delight )( satisfaction )( thanks )
( to-by-for )( the )sons of Atreus,
ἐν εὐρείῃ χάριν Ἀτρεΐδῃσι φέροντες.
ADEIMANTOS: ( and we try to remember )
what it feels like to be seen
and celebrated,
PINDAR: ( LET LOOSE! )( would )stir up
( to call-forth )GLORY( kudos! )
( renown )( to-by-for )Kamarina,
κῦδος ὄρσαι
σπεύδει Καμαρίνᾳ.
ADEIMANTOS: but at least hes not always going on
about hekatombs anymore,
SOKRATES: ( we )would( will )try
( attempt, endeavor, experience )
to go-through( pass-through, complete, spread-
abroad, shoot-through, pass-through-and-reach,
recount ),
πειράσομαι διελθεῖν.
ADEIMANTOS: does he realize ( there are people watching )
when he says these things? nobodys relationship
with himself ( we )is( being ) his deep flaw,
we see him
( when we want to skip to the end ),
MEDEIS: as( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be )
would( that )( we- )i( -being )at least( had )died
and( indeed )( had )( driven-to )met( my )destiny,
ὡς δὴ ἐγώ γ᾽ ὄφελον θανέειν καὶ πότμον ἐπισπεῖν
ADEIMANTOS: whereas somebody brings this feeling
of ( little fires lighting up along the way )
and then he makes them HUGE,
he speaks to stadia,
PINDAR: may( the )GOD be JOYFUL-HEARTED
( goodly-phrenes )( mirthful, merry, taking pleasure,
gracious, kind, kindly, benevolent )
( to-by-for )( their )remaining( future )( hence-
forward )( hereafter )( further )PRAYERS
( vows, wishes, aspirations );
θεὸς εὔφρων
εἴη λοιπαῖς εὐχαῖς:
ADEIMANTOS: and nobody lets us relive
our worst moments, he just offers himself
with some strangers generosity, like
MEDEIS: ( to-by-for )the day when( to-by-for )me
the greatest multitude of Trojans cast( their )brass-tipped spears
around( about )( the )slain( perished )( Achilles )son of Peleus,
ἤματι τῷ ὅτε μοι πλεῖστοι χαλκήρεα δοῦρα
(310) Τρῶες ἐπέρριψαν περὶ Πηλεΐωνι θανόντι.
ADEIMANTOS: as somebody champions thumos,
our horses shiver to hear him speak,
PINDAR: since( you are approaching- and following-
upon )( to-by-for )( the dyad-word-song )
( WE )PRAISE( tell of )( approve )( commend )
him-her( who is )EXTREMELY( DYAD-SECRETLY! )even( INDEED )
AT HAND( ready )( prepared )( at once
and without hesitation )( ready-active-zealous )
( bold )( brought to fulfilment )( eager )
( to-by-for the )EDUCATION( nourishment,
food, provisions, forage, livelihood, nurture,
rearing, generation and keeping )( of )HORSES,
ἐπεί νιν αἰνέω μάλα μὲν
τροφαῖς ἑτοῖμον ἵππων,
ADEIMANTOS: as nobody fantasizes his own death,
MEDEIS: ( to-by-for )it( we would have received
A LOT )of funeral gifts,
τῷ κ᾽ ἔλαχον κτερέων,
ADEIMANTOS: somebody reminds us of being our best,
PINDAR: and REJOICING( o rejoicing ones! )
( to-by-for )ALL-RECEIVING XENIA( guest-
friendships and stranger-hospitalities ),
χαίροντά τε ξενίαις πανδόκοις
ADEIMANTOS: as nobody fantasizes about fame,
as part of fantasizing about his death,
such as this, our problematic man,
MEDEIS: and( indeed )( we would have taken )
( the )Achaians( would have )brought me
glory( kleos - fame, rumor, report ),
καί μευ κλέος ἦγον Ἀχαιοί:
ADEIMANTOS: whereas somebody makes the city-
soul ache
with possibility,
PINDAR: and( indeed )toward CITY-LOVING PEACE
( rest, quiet, silence, stillness ),
SELF-TURNING( tetrammenon )( to-by-for )CLEAR
( pure, spotless, free )THOUGHT
( judgment, intelligence, knowing, understanding,
opinion, resolution, purpose, resolve ),
καὶ πρὸς ἁσυχίαν φιλόπολιν καθαρᾷ γνώμᾳ τετραμμένον.
ADEIMANTOS: the possibility of somebody
or something, being some city
worth dying for,
SOKRATES: this( even )( indeed )therefore( we )
( o ways, o powers of song! )suppose
( forebode, presage, expect,
suspect, intend, believe )( the )all( o all! )
will agree( same-saying )( he would agree )
( she would agree )( you will agree )
( to-by-for )we
( she-dyad-confession )( to-by-for confession-she ),
τόδε μὲν οὖν οἶμαι πᾶς ἡμῖν ὁμολογήσει,
ADEIMANTOS: ( silently ) we side with nobody
almost all the time, even
when what he says is plainly wrong,
MEDEIS: but now( it had been )fated( me )
( to be )seized( captured )( taken )( slain )
( to-by-for )( a )wretched( sorry )( pitiful )
( contemptuous )death,
νῦν δέ λευγαλέῳ θανάτῳ εἵμαρτο ἁλῶναι.
HOMER: so there-and-then( dyad-he )speaking it —
ὣς ἄρα μιν εἰπόντ᾽
PINDAR: ( WE )( would-will )NOT STAIN
( you are not stained )( wet, moisten, soften, dye )
( the )WORD( to-by-for )FALSEHOOD,
οὐ ψεύδεϊ τέγξω λόγον: [30]
ADEIMANTOS: ( breathe ) we remind myself
as we realize what we witness,
HOMER: ( the )GREAT WAVE( billowing, swelling,
heaving, flood )( PREGNANCY-fetus-sprout )DROVE-
( propelled-thrusted-struck )-DOWN( against-
through )( from the )HIGHEST( topmost-extremity
)( a )TERRIBLE( dreadful, wondrous, awful,
clever )RUSHING-( hastening,
speeding )-against,
ἔλασεν μέγα κῦμα κατ᾽ ἄκρης
δεινὸν ἐπεσσύμενον,
ADEIMANTOS: somebody versus nobody
would ignite
to tame the tempest,
PINDAR: ( o )SHE-TRIAL( we drive-through )( the crucial
experiment )( trial )( proof )( perseverance )
( to-by-for )YOU( let me tell you )( would be )
( the )ELENCHOS( argument )( disproof,
refutation, cross-examination, testing,
scrutiny, trial, reproach, blame,
etc )( of )MORTAL MEN,
διάπειρά τοι βροτῶν ἔλεγχος:
ADEIMANTOS: what does nobody fight for,
his craft?
HOMER: but( it )WHIRLED( he raised the battle-cry )
( he raised a lament )( he cried loudly )AROUND
( about )( the SHE- )raft( hand-to-hand )
( in close combat ),
περὶ δὲ σχεδίην ἐλέλιξε.
ADEIMANTOS: and somebody for what,
the reinstatement of whats right?
PINDAR: ( the )SHE-DYAD( who )UNBOUND
( unfastened, unyoked, released, delivered,
resolved, destroyed, annulled )the CHILD
( Erginos? )of Klumenos from( the )DISHONOR
( disgrace )( derision )( deprivation
of civil rights )( of the )Lemnian women,
ἅπερ Κλυμένοιο παῖδα
Λαμνιάδων γυναικῶν ἔλυσεν ἐξ ἀτιμίας.
ADEIMANTOS: so different, yet
we are burning with them both,
and ( soon we are wildfire ) listening
to their voices in myself resolving,
SOKRATES: such( a )nature( growth-origin,
outward-form, constitution-temperament,
character, originating-power, elementary-
substance, birth )and( indeed )
she-having-and-holding( he-)all as much
( she-dyad )as we enjoined( commanded,
prescribed, posted, appointed )just-now,
τοιαύτην φύσιν καὶ πάντα ἔχουσαν ὅσα προσετάξαμεν νυνδή,
ADEIMANTOS: ( and then the moment is over )
and nobody loses, but he does it to himself,
HOMER: but FAR-off from( the SHE- )raft
( close-quarters )( hand-to-hand combat )( spur
of the moment )( he- )HIMSELF hurled
( let fall, self-threw )( lost the erect position )
( fell in battle )( SUNK ),
(315) τῆλε δ᾽ ἀπὸ σχεδίης αὐτὸς πέσε,
ADEIMANTOS: whereas theres something
strong-humble, humbling, common-strong,
about somebody, a peoples man,
PINDAR: but CONQUERING( winning )
( the )race( COURSE )( of victories )
in bronze( copper coins )armor,
χαλκέοισι δ᾽ ἐν ἔντεσι νικῶν δρόμον
ADEIMANTOS: then again,
what wouldnt nobody sacrifice
of his own self?
HOMER: but( it )sent-forth( threw-hurled-launched-
let-fly )( let fall a word )( uttered in speech )
( let go )( surrendered )( the )rudder out( from his )hands,
πηδάλιον δὲ
ἐκ χειρῶν προέηκε:
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed,
PINDAR: ( he )said( to-by-for )Hupsipule( high-and-lofty passage ),
ἔειπεν Ὑψιπυλείᾳ
ADEIMANTOS: high versus middle?
HOMER: but( the )MIDDLE( to-by-for)itself
( of the )MAST — broke( shivered )
( the SHE- )terrible( fearsome, marvelous,
clever, wondrous )( of )mixing winds
( she )coming( -and-going )HURRICANE,
μέσον δέ οἱ ἱστὸν ἔαξεν
δεινὴ μισγομένων ἀνέμων ἐλθοῦσα θύελλα,
ADEIMANTOS: o high versus middle
versus the HURRICANE they create,
PINDAR: after going( and coming )
( to the )GARLAND( crown )( wreath ),
μετὰ στέφανον ἰών:
ADEIMANTOS: the one they live for,
HOMER: but FAR-OFF( we were SOWING )
( they were sowing )( sow, you )( o sowing )
( sowing )( the sowing )( the )sail( clothing )
( wraps )( shroud )and( indeed )( the )yard-arm
( were )flung-into( FALL, you )( ENTER into )
( come upon )( STRIKE )( the )SEA,
τηλοῦ δὲ σπεῖρον καὶ ἐπίκριον ἔμπεσε πόντῳ.
ADEIMANTOS: if ( a sense of security )
maybe ( we tell myself ) would
call nobody home,
SOKRATES: if finally( having reached its end,
finished, complete, perfect, full-grown,
accomplished thoroughly, and )about to become
( be born, come-into-being )
philosophos( wisdom-love ),
εἰ τελέως (491β) μέλλοι φιλόσοφος γενέσθαι,
ADEIMANTOS: ( until next time ) something
nobody-like slips out,
HOMER: but there-and-then UNDERWATER( she )put him,
( for a )LONGGG time,
τὸν δ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ὑπόβρυχα θῆκε πολὺν χρόνον,
ADEIMANTOS: she-being a strong
container for nobodys ways,
HUPSIPULE: this( WE )i( BEING )( to-by-for )SWIFTNESS( quickness )( speed ),
‘ οὗτος ἐγὼ ταχυτᾶτι:
ADEIMANTOS: but neither is nobody spotless
nor is the poet altogether so,
it may be ( by something small )
but it irks me how they blame her,
she-being Kalupso,
HOMER: nor( was he )able very( dyad-underwater-
secretly )quickly( to )hold-up( lift-up, surface )
( from )under( the )great wave( swelling-
billowing-surge )( pregnancy )( of )( the SHE- )ATTACK;
for( the )clothes there-and-then( were )OPPRESSING
( and depressing )( him ),
the( SHE-DYAD )( to-by-for )itself( o passage!
o resource! )( she )GAVE( give, you! )
through( we would-will HIDE and CONCEAL )
( you hide and cover )Kalupso,
οὐδ᾽ ἐδυνάσθη
(320) αἶψα μάλ᾽ ἀνσχεθέειν μεγάλου ὑπὸ κύματος ὁρμῆς:
εἵματα γάρ ῥ᾽ ἐβάρυνε, τά οἱ πόρε δῖα Καλυψώ.
ADEIMANTOS: but even nobody
with his actions says ( fuck the end goal ),
HOMER: but after a longgg time( LATE? )( NEVER )
( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )( god-needed-
bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be )
there-and-then( he )came up,
ὀψὲ δὲ δή ῥ᾽ ἀνέδυ,
ADEIMANTOS: but when she delivers his medicine,
HUPSIPULE: but HANDS and( indeed )HEART( being )EQUAL( evenly )( alike ),
χεῖρες δὲ καὶ ἦτορ ἴσον.
ADEIMANTOS: he spits it out,
and again the poet takes his side,
( shewaters a lil preachy for them? )
HOMER: but( from her )mouth( she )SPIT-OUT
( the )( SHE- )bitter( sharp, keen, piercing, acute,
pungent, mean! )( SHE- )sea-water( BRINE ),
( she )which( to-by-for )itself( she- )much
from( the she- )head( was )gushing( gurgling,
murmuring, babbling, trickling, flowing fitfully, or in drops . . . )
στόματος δ᾽ ἐξέπτυσεν ἅλμην
πικρήν, ἥ οἱ πολλὴ ἀπὸ κρατὸς κελάρυζεν.
ADEIMANTOS: to walk the slight edge
between nobody, and somebody,
( we-being HUPSIPULE ) and the poet too,
showing-through the best of each,
SOKRATES: rarely( oligakis-slightly )born
among human beings
( to grow, wax, spring-up, spring-forth,
begotten, produced ),
and(indeed)oligas(very-slight-few),
ὀλιγάκις ἐν ἀνθρώποις φύεσθαι καὶ ὀλίγας.
HUPSIPULE: but( it )GROWS,
[40] φύονται δὲ
ADEIMANTOS: but she has nature
and he has his memory ( of her ),
HOMER: but still not even like( he was )forgetting
( the she- )raft( hand-to-hand )( close combat ),
roundly wearing-out( distressed, afflicted, exhausted,
born-hard-upon, reduced to extremity,
being-rubbed-hard, with troubles ),
ἀλλ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ὣς σχεδίης ἐπελήθετο, τειρόμενός περ,
ADEIMANTOS: and having been accustomed
to going and coming between them,
as butterfly men, even just for fun,
even with our ( eyes closed ),
HUPSIPULE: and( indeed )( you would swim )
( you would spin )( you would pile up )
( in heaps )( and for next year ),
SHE-GRAYNESS( gray-grizzled-grizlies )
( of hair )OFTEN( grows )in YOUNG MEN,
καὶ νέοις ἐν ἀνδράσιν
πολιαὶ θαμὰ
ADEIMANTOS: and doesnt he have a habit
of providing commentary
( often in the form of a question )
( we werent going to ask for ) ?
to which we reply ( enjoy the journey ),
SOKRATES: ( either )or( else-otherwise )( eh! )( do )nt( you )suppose?
ἢ οὐκ οἴει;
ADEIMANTOS: and even in her ( fighting sleep )
( like neither nobody nor somebody )
she-being constant revolutionary,
HUPSIPULE: and( indeed )beside( towards )( contrary
to )( against )( beyond )that
( of the )AGE( time of life )( generation )( prime ),
καὶ παρὰ τὸν ἁλικίας
ADEIMANTOS: but ( given ) that nobody
makes an excellent lover,
HOMER: but still rushing-in-pursuit( making a dash )
( passively )in-through( the )waves( billowing-
swelling-pregnancies )( he )received( took hold )( of )herself,
(325) ἀλλὰ μεθορμηθεὶς ἐνὶ κύμασιν ἐλλάβετ᾽ αὐτῆς,
ADEIMANTOS: but when it comes to problems
where we might say ( a good sleep wont fix this )
( anything other than a tempest-tantrum ),
his response seems pretty strong,
HOMER: but in( her )middle( he )sat( and huddled- )down,
ἐν μέσσῃ δὲ καθῖζε
HUPSIPULE: ( contrary to what at )( the )TIME seeming-likely,
ἐοικότα χρόνον.’
ADEIMANTOS: nobody survives,
HOMER: avoiding deaths end,
τέλος θανάτου ἀλεείνων.
ADEIMANTOS: yet hes also like a baby,
who always wants back into the storm,
who just likes getting spun around.
nobody may not be a place to live,
but its his energy that drives us on,
when were on the move.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Republic VI
Odyssey V.299-326, XI.613-626
Pindar Olympian 4
VIII.xx. silken-light ( good at math ) heart-music
ADEIMANTOS: and our serious work
would be to keep her safe,
SOKRATES: as( she is )utterly destroyed in many,
ὡς διόλλυται ἐν πολλοῖς,
ADEIMANTOS: evidently.
but as ( youre in bed already )
our dreaming seems an active sleep
( to determine compatibility )
( singles inferno for meta-poetic we )
then does it end with you and me?
SOKRATES: but something( someone )small escapes
( acquitted, out, you flee ),
σμικρὸν δέ τι ἐκφεύγει,
ADEIMANTOS: by pollination or some kind of aerial seed,
( we guess its how these shes grew me )
or they could be the ( simple formulas )
for our calculator. she makes a kind of logic
( but we try not to hurry ) in order to find,
SOKRATES: ( those )which
( o dyad-god )( she was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ),
οὓς δὴ
ADEIMANTOS: she being who it looks like
as intelligence withdraws from arms races.
so youd better believe she treats herself well,
( herself given manicures and pedicures,
herself taken crystal baths in pastel oceans,
wherein her pearlescent bubbles ) the foam
has ample time ( the sea ) ( we-are-beingly ) really
( the measure of her own motion )
( we-time ) o-clock,
herself-care,
SOKRATES: and( indeed )not useless
( toilsome, grievous, toxic, malicious,
good-for-nothing waste ),
καὶ οὐ πονηρούς,
ADEIMANTOS: ( but no outcome we form )
apart from this-me born ( to-by-for ) her
( to caress every curve ) her goddess curves
( Hera, Gaia, all of hers ) apart from Zeus.
and our service ( to-by-for ) unserviceable she,
SOKRATES: but( they beauty- )call
( they will beauty-call )( to-by-for )( beauty-callings )
useless( unprofitable, unserviceable,
irrelevant, obsolete ),
ἀχρήστους δὲ καλοῦσι:
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed ( we are in my favour )
wearing only ( the sweet scent of raspberry )
( ylang-ylang, vanilla, lavender & patchouli )
( torn basil and tomato and thyme )
( oops was getting hungry )
what more could you want than that?
SOKRATES: and( indeed )after that
back again( bow wow )
the( shes )imitating( representing, portraying,
mimicking, expressing )this( she ),
καὶ μετὰ (491α) τοῦτο αὖ τὰς μιμουμένας ταύτην
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed this-she ( holds
the memory of summer ) somehow
in her animal sounds, as by the dog,
the butterfly, et cetera
( but then again ) what more?
SOKRATES: and( indeed )establishing( setting-down,
instituting )( themselves )( in )the pursuit
( business-practice-custom )( of )herself,
καὶ εἰς τὸ ἐπιτήδευμα καθισταμένας αὐτῆς,
ADEIMANTOS: and if we would ever be
at home ( on my skin ) then how?
SOKRATES: ( of )what sorts( of o )natures
( growths, births, origins )we-being
( to-by-for o )we-being
( you blow and puff )( you would-will bring-forth )
( you would-will flee, escape, fly )( of cool )
( contemplating through the cool of night )souls
( living beings, spirits, ghosts, selves, sources-of-life ),
( o refreshing in the shade )( refreshing )( the refreshing
in the shade )( o making-alive )( making-alive )
( they were making-alive )( we are making-alive )
( to make-alive )( the making-alive ),
οἷαι οὖσαι φύσεις ψυχῶν
ADEIMANTOS: and indeed she being ( silken ) ( and slippery )
and too ( alive ) too ( femme ) for hands to grasp.
from that mistrial, which theys would conclude
( hint - ) ( not the most measured ones )
we never were good at math?
SOKRATES: and( indeed )( who )( arriving-at,
coming-to, approaching )( a )pursuit( business-
practice )in( the )not( held as )worthy( of )
( and )( lordly-kingly )( and )larger
( greater )than them( he-she-it )selves,
εἰς ἀνάξιον καὶ μεῖζον ἑαυτῶν ἀφικνούμεναι ἐπιτήδευμα,
ADEIMANTOS: ( yet ) ( he practices letting her approach him )
so in these ( there is a lightness ) like laughter,
these letting-go, these letting-play, these letting-be,
( as we dive under blankets ) to express her-
SOKRATES: ( shes who )in-many-ways( would
be )( in error )making-false-notes
( offending music ),
πολλαχῇ πλημμελοῦσαι,
ADEIMANTOS: yet still shes cool ( cool as the river ravine,
yet shes who will in many ways say, whoopsie,
yet her parts she be concealing from herself.
yet when we exhale ) and you breathe me in
( our currents would make music ) under my skin,
( as she would balance ) ( to-by-for ) her warming heart.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Odyssey XI.613-626
Republic VI
VIII.xix. beyond the frame ( wrong direction ) of the butterfly sanctuary
( beyond the frame + wrong direction + unfin + good at math )
ADEIMANTOS: O beloved Sokrates, remind me again.
what was my purpose?
SOKRATES: her-remembrance,
μνήμη:
ADEIMANTOS: for whom ( we brace myself ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )of your laying( self )hold,
καὶ σοῦ ἐπιλαβομένου
ADEIMANTOS: she for whom ( we travel
in the wrong direction ) from myself,
as if we could insist
SOKRATES: that( even the )all( o all )will be( forced )
compelled to agree-with( same-saying )
( to-by-for )( that )which( we )were saying,
ὅτι πᾶς μὲν ἀναγκασθήσεται (490δ) ὁμολογεῖν οἷς λέγομεν,
ADEIMANTOS: but ( the distance between us greater ) grows
when we harden ( for the question
that never comes ),
SOKRATES: but( when )letting-be( suffering, permitting,
giving-up, letting-alone, letting-lie, and letting-go )
( you let-go )( o he-letting-go )( her-letting-go )the words
( speeches-accounts-reckonings-relations-correspondences-
proportions-explanations-arguments-thinkings-reasonings-
reflections-narratives-rumors-discussions-debates-
deliberations-dialogues-utterances-oracles-
assertions-expressions-grounds ),
ἐάσας δὲ τοὺς λόγους,
ADEIMANTOS: we put my finger in the cup
( and find out the answer )
regardless of my will
( yet we feel closer to you )
yet closer to whom?
SOKRATES: ( o )looking-steadfastly( paying-attention )
( look-steadfastly, you, in- )to the( him )selves
around( about )the( one-he )logos( speech-account-relation )of them,
εἰς αὐτοὺς ἀποβλέψας περὶ ὧν ὁ λόγος,
ADEIMANTOS: and unsure which self would be him,
what if ( we are shaped like a question )
and we would supply familiar features
( in this place of unfamiliar faces )
for him to recognize himself?
SOKRATES: ( he )would say( the grey would affirm )
to see of selves( on the one hand )
the useless( unprofitable, unservicable )( ones),
φαίη ὁρᾶν αὐτῶν τοὺς μὲν ἀχρήστους,
ADEIMANTOS: and what a time wed have
in contemplation of our uselessness.
but ( what if we want your mind )
do we mean my mind or whose?
( where we can be anyone )
and even hims of sundry use?
SOKRATES: but( on the other hand )( to see if )
the many evil( bad-uglies )
( would be )( she )whole-evil( bad-ugly-shame ),
( they sprinkle )( o sprinkling )( barley-groats
on medicinal wine )( the sprinkling )( the sprinklings ),
τοὺς δὲ πολλοὺς κακοὺς πᾶσαν κακίαν,
ADEIMANTOS: and ( wandering ) around my dreams,
my imagination, my day-to-day,
we might put ( sprinkles! )
on ( anything ) thats thrown-across
or -through ( dia - ballein ),
SOKRATES: ( we, o )looking-upon( inspecting, observing,
carefully, taking-care, visiting, like visiting the sick,
considering, reflecting, meditating on )the cause
( of )the slander( thrown-through )( false-accusation-
prejudice-against ),
upon this( he-it )now( we have become )been born,
τῆς διαβολῆς τὴν αἰτίαν ἐπισκοποῦντες ἐπὶ τούτῳ νῦν γεγόναμεν,
ADEIMANTOS: upon . . . this-which ? o,
this one ( he-it ) who comes and goes
( here on my bare thighs ) ( guilty as charged )
leaving butterfly ( pòò ) like
love letters to the nectarine,
SOKRATES: ( who, which, what )why
( o drinkers, o longing ones, o yearning ones,
are you flying hither-thither,
o wine-tasting-drinking )( would be )
the many( o the many )bads
( evils-uglies-sicknesses-shames ) ( ? )
τί ποθ᾽ οἱ πολλοὶ κακοί,
ADEIMANTOS: maybe when we come and go
to that place ( where your hands cant be )
( and take a sip ) and leave a sign
thats when ( we feel closer to you ),
and closer to her whom we remember,
SOKRATES: and( indeed )on account of this —
( o dyad-god )( it was binding )( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( it was in-need )( need, you )
( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ) —
back again weve taken-up the nature( growth-origin )
of the truly( unconcealedly )wisdom-lovers,
καὶ τούτου δὴ ἕνεκα πάλιν ἀνειλήφαμεν
τὴν τῶν ἀληθῶς φιλοσόφων φύσιν
ADEIMANTOS: like the butterfly men,
those ( hes ) who come and go to such as these,
and drinking nectar where my feet cant go.
and ( what if we want your mind ) also
( as the mind of me or any he ) wandering
around the outermost-edges, where experience
and even ( words escape me ),
SOKRATES: and( indeed )we defined( a boundary,
determining and laying out, our horizon )out-of necessity,
καὶ ἐξ ἀνάγκης ὡρισάμεθα.(490ε)
HERA: hear( of )me now, o Earths( Gaia )
and( indeed )the Sky( Ouranos )broad-from-above,
and o Titan gods, dwelling( to-by-for )you under-
earth( chthon ), around mighty Tartaros,
out-of-whom( be )men and gods,
κέκλυτε νῦν μευ, Γαῖα καὶ Οὐρανὸς εὐρὺς ὕπερθεν
Τιτῆνές τε θεοί, τοὶ ὑπὸ χθονὶ ναιετάοντες
Τάρταρον ἀμφὶ μέγαν, τῶν ἒξ ἄνδρες τε θεοί τε:
SAILORS: ( we )is( are ) ( ! )
ἔστιν,
SOKRATES: so we hypothesize our whole.
( but we cant escape sleep ) together,
which leaves me ( wondering ) about you,
SAILORS: he was saying,
ἔφη,
SOKRATES: but knowing that neither do we know
( what the palm of your hand ) would have-and-hold,
for whom ( these lines will remain ) as parts,
SAILORS: these(shes),
ταῦτα.
SOKRATES: nor do we know what you ( will find
beyond the frame ) of my lived experience,
thats why these-shes we make would be
un-we ( unfin ) until finished by her-yous,
HERA: ( o )all selves, now hear me, and( indeed )give
( of me a )child
apart( away, aloof )from Zeus,
αὐτοὶ νῦν μευ πάντες ἀκούσατε καὶ δότε παῖδα
νόσφι Διός,
SOKRATES: of this-she
( o dyad-god )( she was binding)( bind, you )
( god-needed-bound )( she was in-need )
( need, you )( the dyad-god )( indeed )must( be ),
ταύτης δή,
ADEIMANTOS: fully dyadic ( goddess ) poetry . . .
( using the golden calculator we become )
the calculator we turn me into?
( we calculate probabilities ) and then . . .
would ( we brace myself ) around
open meadows of indeterminacy?
SOKRATES: but( if )( they are )( he is )
( we are )saying( we )ego( being ),
ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ,
ADEIMANTOS: we being free to grow and move
until ( possibilities whirlpool in my head )
as her primordial stew of productivity . . .
but would that mean ( the question never comes ),
SOKRATES: of the( she-nature )( growth-birth-
origin-form-character-substance-dyad )
( it was binding )( it was needful )
( need, you )( bind, you )
must be,
to observe( behold, gaze-at, contemplate )
the destructions( ruins, passings-away, deaths,
corruptions )( of )the( she )nature,
τῆς φύσεως δεῖ θεάσασθαι τὰς φθοράς,
ADEIMANTOS: so not as question, but as necessity . . .
on the one hand ( we answer it anyway ),
as witness to his scatological remains,
as dipped fingers in my pudding cup ( amen ),
risking but slight redness to my dainty skin,
as follies, soap operas, unicorn-porn, born
with ( sprinkles! ) blizzarded-in from you and you,
like cookies starry night with richest cream,
to tempt and tame the little butterbeasts
until the airs astir with fluttering wings,
in-palms-holding his heartbeats memory,
perchance, before releasing me unto herself —
o glorious pollination! or on the other hand,
where re-enactment might make her unsafe,
( we list characteristics ) as for cased specimens:
the Papilionidae, Pieridae, Nymphalidae,
Lycaenidae, Hesperiidae of her corruptions.
and every butterfly would be a mask —
our temple-dwelling her sanctuary inviolable.
//
from hymn to Apollo
Odyssey XI.613-626
Republic VI
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