IX. i. fingers ( of a goat ) burned ( by her shady bed ) of nettles

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 18:54:44 +0800

ADEIMANTOS: ( we are awoken by-from-under sleep )

o its alright, ma. hineni, hinen —

ϊ , , , Ι , , , ? ( or ) ? , , , . , , , ϊ

we try to pick your brain ( from yawning )-

( by )-( to pink alert ) we aim to warm your heart,

SOKRATES: that( whatever - it )even(-indeed )you( plural ),

ὅτι μὲν ὑμεῖς,

OUTIS: there( where )( hither and thither )

( he sets out )( he starts )( start there, you )

( he comes and goes )( come and go there )

( present, you, return )( they are )( he is )

our many( men )even( indeed )( they )killed

( i - we killed )( to-by-for )( the )sharp( keen - acute -

pointed )( the-)(-he-)copper-bronze( weapon )( coin ),

ἔνθ᾽ ἡμέων πολλοὺς μὲν ἀπέκτανον ὀξέϊ χαλκῷ,

ADEIMANTOS: o why would we, with nobody, start there,

where we ( alleged ) murdered many men

into- and for- and by-man-made metals,

that seems the worst idea. unless uh-oh

would even we ( just a little ) belong to them?

( man-killers? )

SOKRATES: O( we would be )Athenian( city )men,

( O )( we would be )( men )( of the Politeia ),

ὦ ἄνδρες Ἀθηναῖοι,

OUTIS: but( they )lead up( take inland )( the )living( men )

( i - we carry by the sea )( conduct )( lift up )

( lead up )( as sacrifice )( the living men ),

( to )work at( make, do, perform )( to-by-for )them

( to-by-for )force( constraint, necessity, compulsion )

( violence, punishment )( by lash or leash on throat ),

τοὺς δ᾽ ἄναγον ζωούς, σφίσιν ἐργάζεσθαι ἀνάγκῃ.

ADEIMANTOS: by sacrificial anima of course.

by violence make uneasy with myself,

their punishment make our comportment worse,

hung star, starker than midnight versus horse.

( its all of a piece ) we come and go by you

( to find reassurance ) a torch

SOKRATES: ( you have )suffered( paschein )

( have had done to you )( paid the penalty )( been ill )

( by )from(-under )( his )my( him-)accusers

( prosecutors )( betrayers )( my public-speakers down-

against ),

πεπόνθατε ὑπὸ τῶν ἐμῶν κατηγόρων,

OUTIS: never( self )theless( to-by-for )me Zeus himself

in(-to )my phrenes( heart, mind, breast, midriff )

thus( in this way )made( created )( wrote )( poetried )

( the )perception( noema, thought, purpose, design ),

αὐτὰρ ἐμοὶ Ζεὺς αὐτὸς ἐνὶ φρεσὶν ὧδε νόημα

ποίησ᾽—

ADEIMANTOS: o heart, that we desire to see the world.

even my mere-cautious-me desires to see

at least ( just a little ) more, whole earth, of what

else can you show to me, by us, of what

SOKRATES: ( i - we )( havent seen )( do )nt know,

οὐκ οἶδα:

OUTIS: as( we wished we )should( have )die(-d )

and( indeed )met( pursued )( encountered )

my( of himself - itself )destiny in Egypt,

( as they would owe to die )( indeed )( to ply )

( to wield )( to practice )( to apply )( to govern )

( to administer )( to haunt )( to frequent )

( to encounter )( to cope with )( to face )

( the destiny )( of himself )( in the Nile river )

( in the mythical king )( in Aiguptos )

( of the vulture - goat )( backwards - below ),

ὡς ὄφελον θανέειν καὶ πότμον ἐπισπεῖν

(275) αὐτοῦ ἐν Αἰγύπτῳ:

ADEIMANTOS: ooh his Egyptian scuff ( shivers ) tempts me enough.

( a lot more prepositions this time, ριγητ? )

( and more galactic gender acrobatics ) ( interstellar jelly )

but my oligen me speaks thus, handcuffs

( about things better left alone ),

SOKRATES: but( we-)i(-being )then( therefore )

and( indeed )himself

( by )from( under )himself

forgot( lost thought of )my slight( me ),

ἐγὼ δ᾽ οὖν καὶ αὐτὸς ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν ὀλίγου ἐμαυτοῦ ἐπελαθόμην,

OUTIS: for yet now( more )misery

( woe, evil, destruction, mischief, bane )

received( to welcome )( entertain )( admit )

( allow )( give ear to )me,

ἔτι γάρ νύ με πῆμ᾽ ὑπέδεκτο—

ADEIMANTOS: ( but we go poking ) vulnerable earth,

and when nobody sets the woken scene,

it sounds hospitable, his thinking-dream,

he least of sorrows, sings green shelterly. al-

though my other me seems not that into it,

yet using as receptacles excuse

that alls according to the big mans plan

and slips the noose over his horns,

SOKRATES: in this way persuasive

( plausible )( specious )( credible )

( producing illusion )( true to nature )

( creduous )( obedient )( docile )

( we - i - they )were speaking

( the lament )( song of mourning )( elegy ),

οὕτω πιθανῶς ἔλεγον.

OUTIS: neverthe( self )less away( apart-from )( sprung - from )( my she-)head

( i - we )put( the )well-made( she-)helm

( the she-)( shameless - unabashed )( dog-skin )

and( indeed )( the )shield( a goats - hair - sackcloth )

( to-by-for )( my dyad-man-)(-arms-)shoulders,

αὐτίκ᾽ ἀπὸ κρατὸς κυνέην εὔτυκτον ἔθηκα

καὶ σάκος ὤμοιϊν,

ADEIMANTOS: so we separate herself from me

( and hurt myself ) his lease, my deed, but my least

he says her constellation is well-made. and neverthe( self )-

less now, that we would be broken and lame,

would we be shielded by this goat-less-thing,

to-by-for its shame, no one, his human frame,

SOKRATES: and( yet )further( indeed )( to-by-for )( you )

( o she-true )( o he-true )( unconcealed )

( the )true( neuter-it )( unconcealed )at least

as( the )word(-song )( to )speak

no one( nobody )( they )have spoken,

καίτοι ἀληθές γε ὡς ἔπος εἰπεῖν οὐδὲν εἰρήκασιν.

OUTIS: but( the )tree( shoot )( stem )( trunk )

( oar )( mast )( beam )( plank )( shaft )( spear )

( i - we - they )threw out( out - out -)outward

( cast out of )( my )hand,

( cast out, you )( throw out, you )( send forth )( let fall ),

δόρυ δ᾽ ἔκβαλον ἔκτοσε χειρός:

ADEIMANTOS: and our ( fingers burned ) as though by nettles.

and sometimes sacrifice sounds almost good,

or maybe therapeutic by my hoof,

or maybe itch a bunch of hearty greens,

( he muses as hes led up to the mount )

( as maybe we just want to put grief down )

( . . . )

and better burning me than herself maim,

( . . . )

( for which hes ready ) ( for which we trans-

substantiate, to kill: to green, the flame )

from hymn to Apollo

Apologia

Odyssey XIV

fingers burned

Apologia on the valley below

IX. i. fingers ( of a goat ) burned ( by her shady bed ) of nettles